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Old 17th January 2008, 13:31   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by civicfan View Post
Yes it is but the ride is for granny, alas (at least compared to my 2.2 iCTDi)
Your right there - Civic 3/5dr is orientated to the EU market, The 4 door towards US, which is basically the same as Japan, and handles like a longboat

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Well i've seen the show model "in the flesh" and I must disagree. it's the cost controllers who screwed it up (as usual). Much was taken from the show model but many too many things were made on the cheap in production
However here I have to agree with Brodick. There was very little removed from the show car. For every item you can list I cna give a dozen kept. And when you compare this to what other OEM's do in the transition from concept car to production then it's very close indeed.

Problem is you have a Focus class car with a much higher (and therefore much more expensive) equipment list selling for the same price. Yet the production volume is a 1/4 of the Focus - some thing has to give.

However from what I read then a good proportion of those on this site are actually happy and fault free, and a vast majority of the people would buy another Civic. What I also see here is the hugely different demographic from Honda's traditional customer base. Most New Civic customers under 55 are actually new to the honda brand and unlike the previous customer base (average over 55) a greater majority of them have internet access etc. I think that Honda has made a huge leap to try to appeal to a new market while trying not to loose it's existing cuatomer base. This has lead to a fantastic car which does not quite meet the expectations of either market fully.

And thus back to the original point LuCiUs made on this thread. I am sure that they will adsorb the huge amount of feed back both from this forum (which they do monitor) and from other sources to ensure the next one fully matches the expectation of their new market. So by keeping on raising the issues we raise we here are already doing our bit to best ensure it doesn't happen next time. (Thanks to Pottsy & crew).

But I don't think that flooding an email box with issues they already know about is actually going to acheive anything further. Except possible annoy all the senders as they'll get no responce due to the huge volume.
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