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@brawnr:
I hated the Golf. It was an ex-dem with everything on it bar leather. That included DSG (the semi-automatic gears) and SatNav. I think if I had got one without DSG it might have been different but in all honesty, I doubt it. The car was just too dull and detached. But its horses for courses and many people don't like the Civic. I didn't keep the GTI long at all, the new R was a breath of fresh air and it showed me what I really wanted from a car, so it made my mind up for me.
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