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CivPilot · 26th February 2008, 07:47

And ariel extender won't work though, as it is the transponder chip itself that sends the signal, not the PCB (by that I mean that the transponder is a rolling code chip, not a simple transmitter).
It is the Transponder chip itself that needs to be at the front of the case, running a wire from it will not work. I know this for a fact as while making my key the first attempt didn't work, I thought I had killed it but when I opened the case it turned out the transponder had moved backwards whilst I was putting things back together. However, one of the wires attached to the transponder was right at the front of the case (so if the ariel idea was valid, this would have still worked).

As for moving the module forward have a look at my post on the previous page. To move the module forward enough in the key case without de-soldering the flip key would have to be at least one and a half times the width of the normal key. It would be a hideous monster of a thing.

Of course, you could try moving the module to sit "piggy back" on the opposite side of the key to the flip switch. This would mean the key could stay the same width but the depth of the key would be twice that of the flip key, so again, a total monster of a key. But this idea again is flawed as the transponder could end up being too far away from the barrel (due to the width of module + case etc the transponder would be about 15/20mm further away from the barrel than normal, just in a lateral direction)

Obviously the length of the flip key cannot change as this is dictated by the key itself when folded.

Unfortunately guys it appears absolute that in order to have a flip key that still fits in your pocket you must move the transponder off the PCB and do some soldering. Harsh, but trust me, I have tested the transponder without wires and taken loads of measurements (to do that dodgy photoshop on the previous page) and there is no way round it.

Your choices are:-

Get someone to make a hideous double width flip case
Get the soldering Iron out

You just have to ask yourself, just how much do you really want a flip key?

Sorry this post isn't all sweetness and light, but just trying to be real about this. I spent a lot of time taking the measurments and checking things (rather less time in photoshop it must be said

) on the previous page and it seems to have already been ignored

.

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CivPilot 您看了 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st May 2006 Location: Surrey/Hants Posts: 447 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	And ariel extender won't work though, as it is the transponder chip itself that sends the signal, not the PCB (by that I mean that the transponder is a rolling code chip, not a simple transmitter). It is the Transponder chip itself that needs to be at the front of the case, running a wire from it will not work. I know this for a fact as while making my key the first attempt didn't work, I thought I had killed it but when I opened the case it turned out the transponder had moved backwards whilst I was putting things back together. However, one of the wires attached to the transponder was right at the front of the case (so if the ariel idea was valid, this would have still worked). As for moving the module forward have a look at my post on the previous page. To move the module forward enough in the key case without de-soldering the flip key would have to be at least one and a half times the width of the normal key. It would be a hideous monster of a thing. Of course, you could try moving the module to sit "piggy back" on the opposite side of the key to the flip switch. This would mean the key could stay the same width but the depth of the key would be twice that of the flip key, so again, a total monster of a key. But this idea again is flawed as the transponder could end up being too far away from the barrel (due to the width of module + case etc the transponder would be about 15/20mm further away from the barrel than normal, just in a lateral direction) Obviously the length of the flip key cannot change as this is dictated by the key itself when folded. Unfortunately guys it appears absolute that in order to have a flip key that still fits in your pocket you must move the transponder off the PCB and do some soldering. Harsh, but trust me, I have tested the transponder without wires and taken loads of measurements (to do that dodgy photoshop on the previous page) and there is no way round it. Your choices are:- Get someone to make a hideous double width flip case Get the soldering Iron out You just have to ask yourself, just how much do you really want a flip key? Sorry this post isn't all sweetness and light, but just trying to be real about this. I spent a lot of time taking the measurments and checking things (rather less time in photoshop it must be said) on the previous page and it seems to have already been ignored .