Probably the same but it may depend on the road conditions.
On the M25, clockwise, there seems to be a recurring Thu/Fri pattern of heavy traffic between junctions 9 and 11 and then another, longer jam between junctions 12 and 17. 11 to 12 seems to escape the worst of it.
I join at J11.
When I'm approaching J11 the start of the jam (triangle) at J9 is 'off the radar' but the continuous red line tells me that there is a jam right across where I'm about to join.
Last Friday all I could see was a triangle at J12 which told me nothing because I wasn't in navigation mode so it could have been for the other direction.
From what I have learnt, the new v 3.23 has all the improvements I mentioned previously plus the traffic flow is back.
