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Old 15th April 2008, 06:49   #63 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Vet_2010 View Post
I'm sorry but you can't just brandish all young drivers with the image that they are careless and incapable of driving a powerful car! To be honest I find it quite surprising that people who are commenting on how you require experience don't appear themselves to have the maturity to see past a common stereotypy and realise that not all young drivers are the same.

I can see your point and no one can deny the statistics, yes young drivers are more likely to have an accident! However, I think that if the power of the car was related to the likelihood of a young driver having an accident the government would have realised this by now and restricted new drivers on what vehicles they can drive.

Is it really going to make that much of a difference if someone is driving a Type-R at 100mph or a clapped out Clio at 100mph? I doubt very much it will. Just because the Type-R is a powerful car does not mean it is above the law or can do anything extra that other cars on British roads can’t.
If a young driver is of the mind frame that they’re going to show off to their friends and that they ‘feel invincible’, they are going to do so no matter what car they are in. Yes the Type-R may have a faster 0-60 and a greater top speed but if they’re going for speed and they’re up in the 100’s I think it’s much of muchness as to what difference it will really make.

The reason I felt so compelled to speak up is that I considered the Type-R, and despite not having gone for one, reading this thread and pretty much being told that I shouldn’t be allowed a Type-R simply because I’m 21 is rather ridiculous. The reason I wanted a Type-R was not necessarily for the performance but because I consider it to be the best looking of all the Civics. For everyday driving on the public highway, the fact that the Type-R is 2 or so seconds faster than my Civic really wouldn’t make any difference to my driving style or increase my likelihood of having an accident. If anything it would decrease it as I sure as heck wouldn’t have anyone put a mark on it, let alone myself cause damage to it!

I hope I haven’t offended anyone, it certainly isn’t my intention. I have found this forum to be very informative and manned by a great bunch of people that have been extremely helpful. I simply will not sit back and silently accept criticism just because of my age!
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Colin
Personally I don't think you have offended anyone but I think we have to get away from people thinking they are being told 'they can't do something'.

I think you make valid points regarding speed and cars but I guess because the subject started out on the TYPE R GT it sort of continued that way. I more think of inexperienced drivers as those who haven't had their license long or haven't driven very much but have had their license for a long time.

My wife is a classic example of one who isn't a younger 'un as in her early 20's ( I better not say her age she might remove important parts of me) but she only passed her test 6 months ago and has only been driving daily since december 2007. At this moment she hasn't driven my civic because a) of the power and b) the power distribution. I say power distribution and by that I mean the car reaction to the pressing of the accelerator. In my opinion it is far more 'instant' than in other cars I have owned and so out of concern for my wife I have suggested that she has a little more time driving her Fabia day by day to encounter different situation first and then drive my car.

I do think though,VET that the 0-60 time is important in terms of reaction times and your comparison between a clapped out clio and the Type R may not be the best. The Type R will get there a lot faster than the clio and therefore means reaction times differ considerably.

Neemster makes a very good point about the fact that even though he is young he has a 100 mile round trip everyday to Uni and, so I agree with him that his 'experience' could be much higher, even as a young driver, than some people on here who only drive 10 miles to work everyday and never at weekends.

It's a good debate to be having and one that I think the younger members should actively take part in.
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