[NH Dan]

Originally Posted by Foggy69

But brands don't just get good reputations, they are built.
If every VW built fell apart, and the dealer said 'F**k off, I don't care' the VW brand wouldn't be as trusted as it is today.
Likewise, Citroen have had a reputation in the past of building less robust cars. I have owned a AX and a ZX in the past, which were both good cars slightly let down by poor quality control.

How Audi have such a good reputation is completely beyond me, I found the staff at it's Crawley dealer the most unhelpful bunch when I was looking at buying an A3. Whilst a trip to a Kia garage to look at the Pro Ceed (yes, silly name, but a surprising good car) to be very helpful.
So in my wierd little world, Kia is far ahead of Audi

Exactly - in your opinion and experience but before this event, how would you have rated it?? Audi all the way I expect.