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Old 5th April 2007, 12:36   #1 (permalink)
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Civic Type S 1.8 Vs Mazda 3 2.0 petrol (facelift)

Hi guys,

I'm in the process of selling\trading my Golf mk iv TDi 150. I've narrowed it down to these two cars. They are both relatively cheap and offer warm hatch performance.

IMO Honda's make the best engine bar none, our 16 year Old Honda mower never stopped working and we never serviced it!! We've got at Jazz sport which is an amazing car.

Heres my thoughts on a Civic vs a 3

Mazda 3 +
  • Is based on a Focus II chassis, control blade multi-link, inclined dampers - in short it corners and is comfy
  • Spec is great Bose, Xenons, auto wipers, cruise, stability, 17" alloys.
  • cheap to insure - group 8 I think (my Golfs 15 I think).
  • Quiet motorway cruising esp in face lifted model.
  • Nice interior - imo - on a par with a mk iv or mk v Golf.
  • Seats, firm with lumber - almost as good as a VW seat.
  • No blind spot issues, rear wiper - a more conventional design - perhaps easier to live with??
Mazda 3 -
  • Engine's a little low tech compared with the Honda. Variable timing but not lift
  • Uses more fuel than the Honda.
  • Less dealers.
  • Perhaps worth less when reselling.
The comments for the Honda are only observations and may need correction, I'm a newbie after all!!

Honda Type S +
  • Honda drive train - it doesn't get any better than that!
  • Looks cool outside, nice interior.
  • A little cheaper than the Mazda.
  • Reliable drive train.
Honda Type S -
  • No Multi-link rear end. Sporty but at the price of comfort. Feels a little dumbed down for a Honda
  • Small fuel tank, and no magic seats. Perhaps more frequent fill ups
  • Soft seats no lumber - similar to the Jazz. I'm used to harder German seats
  • Noisy on the motorway, is there any room under the swoopy bonnet for sound proofing?
  • Smaller diameter brakes - lol yeah its a little nerdy but goes to show I've read the specs The Mazda 3 has similar size brakes to the last CTR!
  • Common faults - filler cap, rear dampers, dash rattles. Easily scratched dash material.
I've tried not to be biased - I like both cars. Lol perhaps a Mazda 3 with a Honda engine would be perfect. The Mazda 3 forum is not a very good source of information, so I don't know the common faults on it.
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