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Originally Posted by civie

i believe that all new models have "teething" problems associated with new models - Technology, Obviousy there have been production problems with early models, however , reading the results of the last satisfaction survey i would say that overall owners are more than satisfied with there purchases.

This is true and I won't dispute it. However, what I am saying is that whilst all new technology will breed problems where exactly is the ground breakingly new technology in the Civic? Now I do expect to be corrected on this point as I am no engineer but in terms of electronics, fuel cap openers, bluetooth, wiring, sat nav, chasis, suspension, there is nothing actually ground breaking in the civic. Yet these are the tings that are causing the problems. All of these things are well established in other models and makes. I believe that the USP of the civic is the way in which these features are packaged into the car and not any ground breaking technology. That, I think, is the reality.

Originally Posted by civie

Secondly, This site is for owners of the euro model civic, presumably there is a site for the US civic model and a dare guess that the feedback is very much like if not worse than the threads posted here.

I fear that you have missed my point somewhat in this regard. I'm not interested in the international build quality of the civic alone and if I was it would surely be negligable anyway as all of the models are quite different from what I can see, although again I am no expert. The point that I am making, or rather suggesting, is that this vechicle, this Honda product which has been produced in Britain for consumtion throughout Europe may be of inferior quality to a similar Honda product, not necessarily a Civic, produced in America or Japan, for consumption in Europe. I take my basis for this argument from the posts of others on this forum who have stated the same.

Originally Posted by civie

As for quality control, Honda uk would not knowingly allow cars to leave production lines destined for customers with known quality issues.

The key phrase there being not knowingly. This may be because of an inferior level of quality control. Something that I know most people wouldn't think would happen in a multi-national corporation like Honda where quality control would surely be standardized. Yet... this is exactly where something like this would happen as I can testify to first hand having worked for one of the biggest companies in the world in the past. I will not name this company for caution over legal reprisal.