well after doing a count in windows i have, 8236 songs in my mp3 folder. goodness know how many albums that is, so not being able to select albums and artists etc. is a waste of time to me. its fine having playlists if u like listening to random songs or just a few albums but i like to swap and change to often. burning discs isnt a problem but its time consuming. seems to be alot of room in the centre console though so maybe i can manage. i best start burning discs( a month before i get my civic
). although if ( after reading the post given by paul_b) someone can tell me how to get into the ipod manually while connected it may be worth getting it free off my dealer ( aint paying £225 for a wire) .