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I am browsing for a used car and I have managed to test drive a 2013 Civic 1.6 Diesel one. I liked it quite a lot so I think I'll go for it.
I would need some help in identifying all the versions and 'facelifts' as I am a little confused.

Looking ad this forum the 9th generation Civic is labelled "2012-2016". When did the 'facelift' happen? I was told 2015. I was also looking for DAB in the car but the one I tested today did not feature it. Browsing around I understand it was added at a later date, is that correct?

Can finally anybody help - or show me the way - on the different variants S-SE-SE plus-ES-EX? Mainly I'd like the following options:

- Rain sensor
- Automatic headlights
- DAB
- bluetooth
- auto-dimming rear view mirror

Thanks for all your help!
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 13th May 2017, 16:19
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Facelift occurred in 2015, try and find out the manufacturing year of the 2013, if it is 2012 there are some quirks with the computer.

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If it hasn't got DAB then it's probably a model year 2012. Also, search here for the 'front seat bolt covers', if it has the covers then that will confirm a MY12.

And as mentioned, the iMid had some unplanned annoying restrictions in the first year of release.

Personally I would avoid a MY12 and look for a MY13 or later, which is why I waited a year for mine.
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Unfortunately there's no standard spec levels that stay the same year on year. Instead Honda will introduce new features into spec levels as the years go by.

The facelift version has a refreshed appearance but also remember Honda also removed/degraded some minor things in 2015/2016, e.g. suede-effect seats were replaced with a more scratchy material, glove-box lining removed, no CD player, etc...

I have the 2014 SE Plus which has all you are looking for minus the "auto-dimming rear view mirror". This was available to me as an optional extra in the Driver Assistance Pack. The spec level above mine (SR) had this feature as standard in 2014. So for a 2014 model you'd have to get a SR spec model to guarantee all those things you want, or if you're lucky, find a SE Plus model with the optional Drivers pack (probably hard to find).

Here's the brochure I have stashed away for 2014:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byk...ew?usp=sharing

Here's what looks like the 2013 brochure. Despite having 2012 in the URL the first page of the brochure states 2013:

http://www.stuartgrahamhonda.co.uk/c...Civic_2012.pdf

From the 2013 brochure it seems a bit different...

- Rain sensor (ES, EX, EX GT)
- Automatic headlights (ES, EX, EX GT)
- DAB (optional on SE & ES, standard on EX, EX GT)
- bluetooth (optional on SE, standard on ES, EX and EX GT)
- auto-dimming rear view mirror (EX, EX GT)

So to get the things you listed, it looks like at least a 2013 EX or a 2014 SR, unless you get lucky and find one with the optional extra included on the lower spec.

Hope this helps...
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thank you so much guys, this is very helpful.

The salesman told me the DAB was only available from 2015 onward - he only sells Honda cars so it's understandable that he may not know everything about them - so now I just need to make sure it's there or it's an EX/SR. Probably an ES will be ok - without the dimming rear view mirror, maybe I can live without it. Thanks for the brochures, hondayonder, really helpful.

Is there anything I should be aware of when purchasing a 2013 Civic? I heard there is nothing to be concerned of and the salesman says Civic's feature timing chain - not belt - so no need to replace it.

Thank you again for your time on this, I'll keep you posted!

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Only thing that springs to mind is "clutch judder". Search the forums and you'll find a couple of threads on it. You'd probably need to test drive the car on a damp day to see if it happens, and feel the bonnet to see if the owner has already warmed the car up.

I haven't seen it myself but a few people on the forums have.

BTW dealers can sometimes say a Civic is 2014 when it was made in 2013 and registered in 2014. An easy way to spot the difference is that 2012 and 2013 Civic have a grey front trim below the Honda badge. In 2014 it's black and from 2015 onward it's the face-lift.

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Jack was removed on the 13MY onwards or might have been 14MY.

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Hi guys

I ended up with an EX which I found at a good price. Everything seems to be in order. Only thing about the clutch is that the engine was warm when I went to test drive it - they said they took it for a valet. I see many users complaining about the clutch to be honest - and as usual the clutch is NOT covered by the warranty. I am not sure what I can do with that. The clutch behaved ok during my 30m test drive. Warm and damp day.

Anything you would recommend to be checked before signing and collecting the car?
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I like my 9G. Quieter and smoother than my 8G's. No issues I've found or seen reported but then mine isn't fully run in yet.

Can't comment on the clutch because mine hasn't got one.
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I have already purchased an EX and the SR is probably over my budget (I was surprised when I found the EX!) but thanks!
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I'm probably a bit late to this thread but when I bought mine I was told that post March-2015 models (ie facelift) were better - the SR model which I wanted had satnav and DAB as standard and the Android head unit. Also I think the DRLs integrated into the headlights came along at that point.


I had one issue with clutch judder, car was warm and don't remember it being wet. Has never happened since.


The 16DTEC engine is very economical so very pleased in that respect. Nothing has gone wrong in the 18 months Ive had it
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I have only had my 2103 Mk 9 TI for 2 weeks but love it already. No clutch issues, in fact its incredibly smooth as is the gearchange. 1.8 petrol that revs like crazy is great, 65 in second and 95 in third is a lot of fun. I have put Eibach springs on which makes it look and handle so much better with only a very minor change in ride quality, next thing is wheel spacers to fill the arches properly. And one day sway bars when someone makes them for the Mk 9.

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I have only had my 2103 Mk 9 TI for 2 weeks but love it already. No clutch issues, in fact its incredibly smooth as is the gearchange. 1.8 petrol that revs like crazy is great, 65 in second and 95 in third is a lot of fun. I have put Eibach springs on which makes it look and handle so much better with only a very minor change in ride quality, next thing is wheel spacers to fill the arches properly. And one day sway bars when someone makes them for the Mk 9.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the test drive and liked the purchase.
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