Rear side motorised spoiler?

Naresh · 13th April 2012, 11:05

Saw these trims on the 9G rear wings yesterday which looked like a stuck on bit of plastic. The dealer explained they come out at speed to help airflow which I found strange, and to be honest a bit of an afterthought. Surely something like would be engineering into the design instead?

NH Dan · 13th April 2012, 11:07

lmao - which idiot told you that?

there are two bits of moudling stuck on that aid the airflow at speed, they dont move at all

jamesaberdeen73 · 13th April 2012, 11:09

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Originally Posted by NH Dan

lmao - which idiot told you that?

there are two bits of moudling stuck on that aid the airflow at speed, they dont move at all

Your wrong dan................

They extend out about 12ft either side when you hit 30mph.

Took the heads of my mums daffodils with them yesterday............she was absolutely f****** furious

(its unbelievable the mis-information out there nowadays)

mryanski · 13th April 2012, 11:15

Isn't that where the machine guns pop out?

Don't you love the patter a salesman will come out with to sell a car (No offence Dan lol!)

Naresh · 13th April 2012, 11:22

I didn't believe him at all but let him have his 5 seconds of fame!

There was me thinking it was like the super pursuit mode on KITT in Knight Rider (Hasselhoff days), giving you an extra 200bhp!

To me I think it's a really bad afterthought to need to stick on an ADDITIONAL bit of plastic AFTER the car is designed to help airflow. It's not even subtle.

Oh and by the way, the dealer was in Halesowen but I didn't get the saleman's name.

Scotty182 · 13th April 2012, 11:24

Any pics of it, i had a look on google but couldnt find it?

Stevo! · 13th April 2012, 11:43

LOL what does he think hes selling a Lambo?

Naresh · 13th April 2012, 11:46

Here it is, you can just see it under the rear light on the wing.....

Scotty182 · 13th April 2012, 11:52

Daft after-thought

Spank My Car · 13th April 2012, 11:58

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Originally Posted by jamesaberdeen73

Took the heads of my mums daffodils with them yesterday............she was absolutely f****** furious

Anyone else think that rear wiper looks plain odd too!

Relic · 13th April 2012, 12:30

You have to ask whats the point ?
Im sure the wiper will effect the aero much more than them

Laney · 13th April 2012, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Naresh

Saw these trims on the 9G rear wings yesterday which looked like a stuck on bit of plastic. The dealer explained they come out at speed to help airflow which I found strange, and to be honest a bit of an afterthought. Surely something like would be engineering into the design instead?

I've read they improve airflow also to aid fuel efficiency but they're certainly not motorised

jamesaberdeen73 · 13th April 2012, 13:31

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Originally Posted by Relic

You have to ask whats the point ?
Im sure the wiper will effect the aero much more than them

I imagine they gave it a fair bit of thought.

You dont incurr the cost of tooling up for something like that for no reason.

F1 teams make ridiculously small tweaks to their aero that you would never imagine could make any difference at all....but it does.

Alsone · 13th April 2012, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Scotty182

Daft after-thought

I agree. Had it been thought about properly in advance surely they would have just moulded the shape into the rear wing instead of sticking a panel piece on afterwards.

Scotty182 · 13th April 2012, 13:47

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Originally Posted by jamesaberdeen73

I imagine they gave it a fair bit of thought.

You dont incurr the cost of tooling up for something like that for no reason.

F1 teams make ridiculously small tweaks to their aero that you would never imagine could make any difference at all....but it does.

F1 teams cars spend most of there time well above 100mph and can take corners just as quick
The difference those bits of plastic will make (on a civic) are SO minimal you'd never see it

I fail to see the use of them tbh, they're too far back to act as V-G's to create turbulent air around the rear bumper properly IMO

As for fuel effieicency improvments, they increase drag no matter how you look at it; so i doubt it

Spank My Car · 13th April 2012, 13:52

I'm still not too sure what were even looking at?

Laney · 13th April 2012, 13:55

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Originally Posted by Scotty182

F1 teams cars spend most of there time well above 100mph and can take corners just as quick
The difference those bits of plastic will make (on a civic) are SO minimal you'd never see it

I fail to see the use of them tbh, they're too far back to act as V-G's to create turbulent air around the rear bumper properly IMO

As for fuel effieicency improvments, they increase drag no matter how you look at it; so i doubt it

At the least they must have put them on their for some reason though you have to admit. Honda must have done wind tunnel tests to show they don't increase drag and aid economy or so their literature would lead you believe

Scotty182 · 13th April 2012, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Laney

or so their literature would lead you believe

Their literature would tell you ANYTHING if it got a sale

haha

Laney · 13th April 2012, 14:04

well if it works, it works

otherwise why bother to stick them on

personally I'd much prefer if they did extend when you hit 88mph, now thats a selling point!

Scotty182 · 13th April 2012, 14:10

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Originally Posted by Laney

well if it works, it works

otherwise why bother to stick them on

personally I'd much prefer if they did extend when you hit 88mph, now thats a selling point!

That would be pretty cool

To all the golf owners you talk to "OH but does yours have speed relative moving wings? like the Mclaren? Mine has 2..." haha!

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