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CivPilot · 10th January 2008, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maldax

Just read Xbox may be going Blu too

Very, very much doubt it seeing as Microsoft are the main driving force/exponent behind HD-DVD. Can you quote your source?

Bungle · 10th January 2008, 17:23

Been reading more rumours on the interweb about Universal and Paramount weighing up their options and considering going neutral or blu-exclusive. I will keep my fingers crossed.

My collection of Blu-Rays now total about 20, and to be honest I will never look back.

For anybody who has not seen a film in HD, cast your mind back to how great DVDs looked in comparison to VHS. its the same difference again.
I feel I have been spoiled, because I hate watching regular DVDs now, the just seem so un-sharp and constantly out of focus or something. Just horrible. It annoys me that i was happy with DVDs until now!

I'm with CivPilot about MS. Being the main backer, I cannot really see them incorporating it. Possible if the HD DVD camp wave their white flag and give up, but it is still very unlikely.
The other thing that makes this sound so unlikely to me is the fanboy factor. PS3 vs 360 is very similar BRD vs HD DVD. Both are ugly fights with childish 'fanboys' on both sides.
Most X-box owners are very anti-PS3 and therefore anti Blu-Ray. The same is true that most PS3 owners are very anti MS and HD DVD. This would mean that there is going to be a very small customer base of 360 owners who will want a Blu-Ray add-on.

Maldax · 10th January 2008, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivPilot

Very, very much doubt it seeing as Microsoft are the main driving force/exponent behind HD-DVD. Can you quote your source?

CES 2008: Microsoft says Xbox could go Blu-ray - Pocket-lint.co.uk - gadget news and reviews

there you go

CivPilot · 11th January 2008, 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maldax

CES 2008: Microsoft says Xbox could go Blu-ray - Pocket-lint.co.uk - gadget news and reviews

there you go

Well there is a geniune shocker, and one that can only reinforce people's fears about HD-DVD and send them to Blue ray.

I would be very surprised if that guy was not hauled over the coals about that statement. Think MS are still pushing, pushing, pushing thier 'baby' and then one of their own staff makes the comment that they might move to Blue ray.

I ask you, as a consumer, would you honestly go "HD-DVD" after reading that statement?

Ps. Have a 360 myself but thankfully never got involved in the 360 V PS3 war. Both consoles are superb and I will be going blue-Ray/PS3 some time this year to complement the 360. Currently the 360 just tips the scales for me based on the fact that most of my mates have one, the game selection is massive and the online side of things is so well established.

Maldax · 11th January 2008, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivPilot

Well there is a geniune shocker, and one that can only reinforce people's fears about HD-DVD and send them to Blue ray.

I would be very surprised if that guy was not hauled over the coals about that statement. Think MS are still pushing, pushing, pushing thier 'baby' and then one of their own staff makes the comment that they might move to Blue ray.

I ask you, as a consumer, would you honestly go "HD-DVD" after reading that statement?

Ps. Have a 360 myself but thankfully never got involved in the 360 V PS3 war. Both consoles are superb and I will be going blue-Ray/PS3 some time this year to complement the 360. Currently the 360 just tips the scales for me based on the fact that most of my mates have one, the game selection is massive and the online side of things is so well established.

The Problem I see with the Xbox as a HD Media player be it on HD-DVD or Maybe Blu-Ray it it's so bloody noisy and then you add a noisy external drive with another power supply

FWH · 12th January 2008, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maldax

The Problem I see with the Xbox as a HD Media player be it on HD-DVD or Maybe Blu-Ray it it's so bloody noisy and then you add a noisy external drive with another power supply

You need a bigger amplifier.

(Actually I agree, I used an old PS2 as a DVD player for a while).

Maldax · 13th January 2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWH

You need a bigger amplifier.

(Actually I agree, I used an old PS2 as a DVD player for a while).

The PS3 is lovely and quiet! Realy quite impressed with it

Bungle · 14th January 2008, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWH

You need a bigger amplifier.

Thart's no good in a quiet, tense part of a movie, and all you can hear is a load whring of fans in the background. It would drive me crazy.

And as Maldax says, the PS3 is whisper quiet, even if it has been on all day and night. It's a fantastic movie player.

dave525 · 16th January 2008, 17:04

Paramount to make Blu-ray u-turn?

Paramount Studios is poised to drop its support of HD DVD format after Warner Bros studio said it would back the competing Blu-ray format, according to the Financial Times. The loss of Paramount would be a further blow to the Toshiba-backed HD DVD format following the move by Warner made at this year's CES.
In August Paramount and DreamWorks said they would go exclusively with HD DVD, yet, according to the Financial Times, Paramount has a clause in its contract with the HD DVD camp that would allow it to change sides if Warner backed Blu-ray.

sonicsteve · 16th January 2008, 17:13

That would only leave Universal supporting HD DVD. So looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel for those of us wanting Blue Ray disks that aren't available, like the Matrix and Star Trek.

amronno · 20th January 2008, 15:15

Der Untergang der HD-DVD - Video von mrsunsh!ne - Deine funny Videos bei Clipfish

Maldax · 20th January 2008, 19:18

Very funny!

alanwalne · 23rd January 2008, 00:09

I also saw on a CES post that Toshiba (co inventors of HD-DVD I believe) have no new HD players for the new year. Not suspicous at all!!!

Bother I have just bought a Toshiba TV and was looking forward to one remote for all.......

I currently am borrowing my brother's PS3 and I found the fan still noisy (but not as loud as a PS2). It is an early one, so perhaps later ones are better.

Bungle · 23rd January 2008, 16:14

I take it you have never used an x-box 360. They make more noise than an industrial hoover!

If the PS3 is getting loud witht he cooling fans, I would suggest it is not well vented enough and is sucking the hot expelled air back in. Make sure it has lots of room above and to the sides. When I put mine in my cabinet, I plug in a USB pc fan to remove the building up hot air.

Maldax · 23rd January 2008, 18:29

My PS3 is quieter that my Sky+ box so guess I don't noticed. Using it more and more for media. Just watched the new Terminator series in HD on it

Koen · 23rd January 2008, 21:32

Got a promotion email yesterday: Toshiba HD-DVD player with all the fancy stuff (1080p and 1080i), even ethernet-connection, and including 4 top movies: 149 euro.
Even for just the "classic" DVD upscaling to 1080, it 's worth the money.

K.

johnston · 23rd January 2008, 22:27

best news i heard from the ces show was BT are going to use the xbox360 as a set top box and thus allows more pay per view programing.

also many studios are now signing up to xboxlive to have download to rent movies which are HD. xboxlive is now the second biggest download service for programing only after itunes

Bungle · 18th February 2008, 09:05

It is officially over now.

HD DVD backers Toshiba are stopping all production of HD DVD hardware, and are pulling out of the format completely.
Both Paramount and Universal are expected to make an announcement by the end of the week about their move to Blu-ray.

Maldax · 18th February 2008, 12:56

Investors approve Toshiba plan to drop HD DVD | Reg Hardware

uncler · 19th February 2008, 13:39

Well, there we are! Now I know which one to get for me birthday!

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Been reading more rumours on the interweb about Universal and Paramount weighing up their options and considering going neutral or blu-exclusive. I will keep my fingers crossed. My collection of Blu-Rays now total about 20, and to be honest I will never look back. For anybody who has not seen a film in HD, cast your mind back to how great DVDs looked in comparison to VHS. its the same difference again. I feel I have been spoiled, because I hate watching regular DVDs now, the just seem so un-sharp and constantly out of focus or something. Just horrible. It annoys me that i was happy with DVDs until now! I'm with CivPilot about MS. Being the main backer, I cannot really see them incorporating it. Possible if the HD DVD camp wave their white flag and give up, but it is still very unlikely. The other thing that makes this sound so unlikely to me is the fanboy factor. PS3 vs 360 is very similar BRD vs HD DVD. Both are ugly fights with childish 'fanboys' on both sides. Most X-box owners are very anti-PS3 and therefore anti Blu-Ray. The same is true that most PS3 owners are very anti MS and HD DVD. This would mean that there is going to be a very small customer base of 360 owners who will want a Blu-Ray add-on.

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