Younger drivers - Posts split from Type R insurance

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

Erm .... sorry but that don't answer my question .....

How does that prove that I do not have enough experience?

all i was stating was "performance insurers" want a years worth of driving a performance car, how does that prove that I do not have experience?

All it shows is that they know that the first year in a performance car is probably the most dangerous. it has no bearing whatsoever on MY PERSONAL experience???????????????????????????????????????? ???

You ended your sentence "which is what I am waiting for" !!!!

If you dont like being being quoted your own words re-phrase !!

[harleyfatboy]

Happyman .... judgeing by topcats conclusion that our old ladys were not speeding , drunk , or out to impress , maybe CRACK was the chosen SUBSTANCE of the day....Two licences in one ...CAR AND SPACE CADET...... ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by Topcat

You ended your sentence "which is what I am waiting for" !!!!

If you dont like being being quoted your own words re-phrase !!

yes im waiting to get insured by one of these companies as my insurance will be cheaper instead of the extortion i am paying because of the halfwits who race around town with their mates and wrap their cars round a lamp post.

To be insured by one of these companies i had to have driven a group 17 or more car for at least a year which will be happening soon

I don't mind being quoted, since you took what i said way out of context anyway

What i do mind is reading someone say i don't have experience based on jack sh*t.

[Jack The Lad.]

"jack sh*t".

Don't bring me into it .

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

yes im waiting to get insured by one of these companies as my insurance will be cheaper instead of the extortion i am paying because of the halfwits who race around town with their mates and wrap their cars round a lamp post.

To be insured by one of these companies i had to have driven a group 17 or more car for at least a year which will be happening soon

I don't mind being quoted, since you took what i said way out of context anyway

What i do mind is reading someone say i don't have experience based on jack sh*t.

Neemstar in all fairness we can only go on what is said on here and the rest is trust and presumption. I have to take TC's view on this and say that she responded to the evidence shown - what else can any of us do on here?

Now the other night when we acted like children you were one of those to scold us, quite rightly for what we did, don't let yourself down now and show us 'old', 'experienced' farts how mature you are. Don't rise to the bait.

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by Jack The Lad.

"jack sh*t".

Don't bring me into it .

Originally Posted by HappyMan

Neemstar in all fairness we can only go on what is said on here and the rest is trust and presumption. I have to take TC's view on this and say that she responded to the evidence shown - what else can any of us do on here?

Now the other night when we acted like children you were one of those to scold us, quite rightly for what we did, don't let yourself down now and show us 'old', 'experienced' farts how mature you are. Don't rise to the bait.

i don't see what evidence TC has for proclaiming that i am inexperienced, apart from some stats about young drivers and that i said i am waiting for a year so a performance insurer will insure me.
but i'm going to step back because i like this forum and the people.

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

i don't see what evidence TC has for proclaiming that i am inexperienced, apart from some stats about young drivers and that i said i am waiting for a year so a performance insurer will insure me.
but i'm going to step back because i like this forum and the people.

See shown us 'oldies' already.

[sallytraffic]

Happyman, you raise a very very powerful point about peer pressure. I teach a young lad who is in the Academy at a premiership club and misses school three days a week, I do one hour catch-up lessons. He is a model student, listens well and tries hard in the one to one. I also teach him in class where he is a total birdbrain and an idiot who wants to 'have a laugh' with his mates and does little or no work and compromises eveyone else at the same time. He has to be watched like a hawk as he can be a danger to himself and those around him.

You would not believe the difference.

One boy, two totally different people because of the context. Peer pressure is a very powerful thing at that age. He is 16 and could be on the roads in less than a year, and if the football pays off he'll be in some powerful car.


On his own he'd be sensible and drive carefully, with two or three mates in the car.. I shudder to think.

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by Topcat

But Neemstar doesnt have experience - Im not saying he cant drive well or that he is going to cause an accident but statistically it is more likely and driving a high powered car is just increasing the risk.

Neemstar READ what I said again - Firstly, I said you didnt have experience because you had already said it previously, if you didnt word it correctly and I misunderstood thats your problem.

Second, I said I AM NOT SAYING YOU CANT DRIVE WELL OR ARE GOING TO CAUSE AN ACCIDENT if you misunderstood what I said although I fail to see how, thats your problem.

Seems to me that you have some kind of chip on your shoulder the way you have reacted - maybe its your age !!

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by Topcat

Neemstar READ what I said again - Firstly, I said you didnt have experience because you had already said it previously, if you didnt word it correctly and I misunderstood thats your problem.

Second, I said I AM NOT SAYING YOU CANT DRIVE WELL OR ARE GOING TO CAUSE AN ACCIDENT if you misunderstood what I said although I fail to see how, thats your problem.

Seems to me that you have some kind of chip on your shoulder the way you have reacted - maybe its your age !!

hmm please show me where i have said i don't have experience - and don't just quote what i said about performance insurers because that has nothing to do with ME personally, that is the view of insurance companies.

i did not misunderstand what you said , you said im not experienced which i didn't like.

funny comment about the age though in the context of this thread, well done, blue peter badge for topcat.

oh and you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about youngsters driving nice cars - "maybe its your age"

anyhow maybe we should agree to disagree because this could go on for weeks, at the end of the day i feel i am experienced enough to deal with any situation whilst driving because of the AMOUNT of miles i have travelled in the last four years in different conditions and environments and vehicles, whereas your arguments are based on statistics of young drivers - that does not mean all young drivers should be painted with the same brush.

soooo i call TRUCE ?

[harleyfatboy]

TOPCAT ....Have you come up with a suitable strategy yet to deal with young drivers ? so we can get it of to press ......Because quite honestly this merry go round ride is very long and going nowhere....yoof of today versus statisticians .....Interested third party....ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

[robbo51]

OK guys..as I started this in the first place..its perhaps time to draw a line under it all.
May I thank you all for your input, some of which mirrors my views, some of which does not and some posts have been bizzare, others hilarious.
Moderators please close this thread, we are going around in circles.
May we agree to disagree.
Cheers
Robbo

[Pottsy]

Some of the comments here are veering away from the discussion and towards the personal - please try and stick to the discussion.

I'll leave it open - but please can posters stick to the general point in hand, rather than let it slide into discussions about individual poster experience and skills.

Thanks!

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

hmm please show me where i have said i don't have experience - and don't just quote what i said about performance insurers because that has nothing to do with ME personally, that is the view of insurance companies.

i did not misunderstand what you said , you said im not experienced which i didn't like.

funny comment about the age though in the context of this thread, well done, blue peter badge for topcat.

oh and you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about youngsters driving nice cars - "maybe its your age"

anyhow maybe we should agree to disagree because this could go on for weeks, at the end of the day i feel i am experienced enough to deal with any situation whilst driving because of the AMOUNT of miles i have travelled in the last four years in different conditions and environments and vehicles, whereas your arguments are based on statistics of young drivers - that does not mean all young drivers should be painted with the same brush.

soooo i call TRUCE ?

As I have said twice now - I quoted what you said, an the truth is you do not have experience in performance cars otherwise you wouldnt be waiting for your year to be up to get insurance !! Right or wrong?

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by harleyfatboy

TOPCAT ....Have you come up with a suitable strategy yet to deal with young drivers ? so we can get it of to press ......Because quite honestly this merry go round ride is very long and going nowhere....yoof of today versus statisticians .....Interested third party....ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

I have said what I think should be done I am not repeating it again - go back an read the posts.

You do not seem to be grasping the what people are saying, I dont think anyone has said that EVERY young person can not drive, no one has said that EVERY young person WILL cause an accident but the fact is a young inexperienced driver is more likely to have an accident the same as a smoker is more likely to get cancer, someone who eats too much is likely to get fat etc etc

Like it or not Stats are based on facts.

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by Topcat

I have said what I think should be done I am not repeating it again - go back an read the posts.

You do not seem to be grasping the what people are saying, I dont think anyone has said that EVERY young person can not drive, no one has said that EVERY young person WILL cause an accident but the fact is a young inexperienced driver is more likely to have an accident the same as a smoker is more likely to get cancer, someone who eats too much is likely to get fat etc etc

Like it or not Stats are based on facts.

Exactly, Exactly, Exactly.

[harleyfatboy]

Topcat... If you will excuse me im going to take dougall , zebedee , brian and florence for an ice cream .....and then count the flowers man ....Roundabout going nowhere.....We are ....back soon .....ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by harleyfatboy

Topcat... If you will excuse me im going to take dougall , zebedee , brian and florence for an ice cream .....and then count the flowers man ....Roundabout going nowhere.....We are ....back soon .....ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

HFB - I think telling us your taking drugs is against forum rules.

In TC's last post she is absolutely spot on about this thread - It hasn't said that all young drivers are bad drivers but that statistically they are - there is a difference!

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by harleyfatboy

Topcat... If you will excuse me im going to take dougall , zebedee , brian and florence for an ice cream .....and then count the flowers man ....Roundabout going nowhere.....We are ....back soon .....ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

You forgot about Ermintrude, oh and Dylan you would probably get on well with him

[harleyfatboy]

TOPCAT ....I knew we were two short on the coach man.....Kept countin couldnt make the numbers match....Now we got a party happenin ...ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE