Who will win the World Cup?

Copycat · 29th May 2006, 08:02

Or is it bad mojo to discuss this beforehand?

Quoting Top Gear's news section:

"If England make it to the final, accidents are expected to double, according to the research carried out by Churchill Insurance."

Would it be worth crashing your precious Civic?

kevin_lufc · 29th May 2006, 16:10

I love England. Going to Swine Park to watch the Hungary game. But the car stays as is for the moment

Copycat · 29th May 2006, 16:22

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Originally Posted by kevin_lufc

I love England. Going to Swine Park to watch the Hungary game. But the car stays as is for the moment

No flags painted on the roof then? Mini-style.

Too bad there's no overly British Emoticon for these occasions...

CavOK · 2nd June 2006, 00:51

I'm sick of hearing obout this Micky Rooney chap and his bad foot!! Can't wait until its all over

kevin_lufc · 2nd June 2006, 10:22

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Originally Posted by CavOK

I'm sick of hearing obout this Micky Rooney chap and his bad foot!! Can't wait until its all over

Baa..humbug

Mark996 · 2nd June 2006, 10:49

Looks like it's gonna be a long month for you then Cav......

I for one can't wait for it to get going - The two Restaurants dirctly either side of mine over here are both Dutch, and beleive me, they really get into their football games on TV - Orange EVERYWHERE!!!!!!

Superb atmos though.

I hate to say this, but my tip to make it to the Final is.................Germany

Brian · 30th June 2006, 01:19

My dark horses were Ukraine (still in there just) but something told me that this France team had one last good tournament in them. England i'm sorry to say have been p*ss poor. Thats not sour grapes from a Scotsman but the sad reality.

kevin_lufc · 30th June 2006, 09:07

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Originally Posted by Brian

France team had one last good tournament in them

Yeh it was in 98....

Brian · 30th June 2006, 23:49

Your right about '98 but more recent that'66 !!!

Hartside · 1st July 2006, 11:51

My moneys on the host nation, Germany. I've got them in the sweep at work, so my fingers are well crossed!

:P Deutschland, Deutschland über alles :P

Brian · 1st July 2006, 22:19

Well what did I say about France!!!!

kevin_lufc · 2nd July 2006, 07:44

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Originally Posted by kevin_lufc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

France team had one last good tournament in them

Yeh it was in 98....

D'OH...

BigBoysToys · 2nd July 2006, 22:04

i don't know much about futebol therefore i don't know who will win, but I know who will not ...

karlak · 2nd July 2006, 22:10

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Originally Posted by BigBoysToys

i don't know much about futebol therefore i don't know who will win, but I know who will not ...

So do I - Anyone who plays with honour and decency

Brian · 2nd July 2006, 23:06

Whole heartedly agree with your sentiments about honour and decency Karlak, thats the 2nd game in a row that I have seen Portugal use bad sportsmanship and down-right cheating to advance in this tournament (1st was against the Dutch) hope my tip France stick it to them in the next round.

Pottsy · 2nd July 2006, 23:16

Have to say that I don't follow football at all - can't abide the pathetic faking and arguing with the ref that seems endemic throughout the sport, regardless of nation.

Fedorov · 2nd July 2006, 23:21

As a football crazy neutral who likes to watch most matches I have to say the game in general is rapidly going downhill with all the diving and cheating going on.

What gets me is the world cup referees did quite a good job of telling players to get UP and get on with it, but it still wasn't handled correctly... if he's waved "play on" then he's really saying that the player HAS DIVED yet no yellow card was shown on most occasions, if ref's start issuing yellow cards for EVERY dive then it may help to stop it, although then it's catch22... you'll see a player really fouled but because the referee didn't see it properly will book the player with the broken leg

BigBoysToys · 3rd July 2006, 01:13

From FIFA web page:
Stats ENG \ POR
ENG: 4 Shots on Goal 9 :POR
ENG: 9 Shots 20 :POR
ENG: 21 Fouls 10 :POR
ENG: 6 Corner Kicks 4 :POR
ENG: 1 Free Kicks 0 :POR
ENG: 0 Offsides 3 :POR
ENG: 0 Own Goals 0 :POR
ENG: 2 Yellow Cards 2 :POR
ENG: 1 Red Cards 0 :POR
ENG: 43% Ball Possession 57% :POR

I didn't see no faking during the penalties, but I saw the portuguese goalkeeper defending 3 penalties! It remainded me of 2002!

Come on people, its sad not knowing how to loose, and I'll tell you something else, if Portugal looses the next match than I hope that the champion may be the French team. At least we will have lost only to the champions!

Over and Out!

karlak · 3rd July 2006, 08:17

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Originally Posted by BigBoysToys

From FIFA web page:
Stats ENG \ POR
ENG: 4 Shots on Goal 9 :POR
ENG: 9 Shots 20 :POR
ENG: 21 Fouls 10 :POR
ENG: 6 Corner Kicks 4 :POR
ENG: 1 Free Kicks 0 :POR
ENG: 0 Offsides 3 :POR
ENG: 0 Own Goals 0 :POR
ENG: 2 Yellow Cards 2 :POR
ENG: 1 Red Cards 0 :POR
ENG: 43% Ball Possession 57% :POR

I didn't see no faking during the penalties, but I saw the portuguese goalkeeper defending 3 penalties! It remainded me of 2002!

Come on people, its sad not knowing how to loose, and I'll tell you something else, if Portugal looses the next match than I hope that the champion may be the French team. At least we will have lost only to the champions!

Over and Out!

I am really not sure what the above quote on figures are meant to prove??? Perhaps we should cut out the football and go straight to Penalties - Congratulations to the keeper, he is the man

- Portugal are much better at penalties, which is why they were happy to sit back and play for them.

The possession figures I would expect to be much higher in favour of Portugal - Seeing as they had a one man advantage for 50% of the game - likewise shots on target etc.

The only figure I would really like to analyse is the England Foul count. I saw many occasions where players fell to the floor for no reason. One of the guys got up holdong both his eyes, it was like a scene from a Hitchcock Film (Pathetic !! ) - The replay clearly showed that the 'player' had the slightest of nudges, and then within 30 seconds he is running full steam down the pitch. The other thing to remember is that the Portugal team had turned up without 2 suspended players, and Figo in my opinion should have been retro-spectively suspended for his headbutt, not that the headbutt was too bad in itself, but if the other player had reacted - no doubt he would have walked.

I do not really blame the Portugal players, they are simply using a situation and turning it to their advantage. It is up to the governing bodies to turn the World Cup back to what it should be, a Football match. Not a game of conning referees, and trying to get fellow professionals sent off. At the moment it is just a Pantomime. It is not a side of the game that has really been adopted by England, and I hope it never does, although with more continental players turning to the Premier League it is becoming more common.

As it is, the events of the weekend have probably ruined Ronaldo's reputation. A player with an immense amount of talent, so much so, that he does NOT need to resort to the playground tactics that he does.

Please do not take this as purely a stab at Portugal, their are many other countries that subscribe to some of these tactics. I think the worst I have ever seen is when Rivaldo of Brazil a few years ago, went down clutching his face at the corner flag, when the ball had been kicked at his legs. Surely when he looked at the replays, he must be totally embarrassed? I guess not though or none of the tricks would happen.

I love football, always have - I have played from an early age up until my legs would not do it anymore

. The game is now being ruined, can we please turn it back to 11 v 11 - where your sleeves are rolled up, and for 90 minutes (or more

) it is a battle, the game is a contact sport - lets get back to that. England would still lose on penalties - It is our Heritage, we cannot deny it

- but at least afterwards we could look at the game and be happy that we lost to a fair fight.

This is not sour grapes, just an opinion on how we must stop the slide, very soon the game will be in the gutter.

Fedorov · 3rd July 2006, 12:34

Yup no sour grapes here, just annoyed that FIFA cannot be consistent with punishments, there is NO WAY that Figo should still be playing in this WorldCup following that headbutt or whatever you wish to call it - TWICE Owen Hargreaves won the ball from Figo and a freekick was given to Figo.

Rooney tries to stay honest, on his feet while being hacked at by 2 players - the referee could have blown for a freekick a long-time before the *incident*

Anyway, we could analyze this all day long...

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kevin_lufc Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 17th April 2006 Location: Leeds Posts: 370 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I love England. Going to Swine Park to watch the Hungary game. But the car stays as is for the moment

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CavOK Valve Cap Join Date: 24th April 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm sick of hearing obout this Micky Rooney chap and his bad foot!! Can't wait until its all over

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Mark996 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 11th April 2006 Location: Nottingham, Notts. Posts: 445 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Looks like it's gonna be a long month for you then Cav...... I for one can't wait for it to get going - The two Restaurants dirctly either side of mine over here are both Dutch, and beleive me, they really get into their football games on TV - Orange EVERYWHERE!!!!!! Superb atmos though. I hate to say this, but my tip to make it to the Final is.................Germany

30th June 2006, 01:19	#7 (permalink)
Brian Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 28th June 2006 Location: Forfar, Scotland Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My dark horses were Ukraine (still in there just) but something told me that this France team had one last good tournament in them. England i'm sorry to say have been p*ss poor. Thats not sour grapes from a Scotsman but the sad reality.

30th June 2006, 23:49	#9 (permalink)
Brian Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 28th June 2006 Location: Forfar, Scotland Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Your right about '98 but more recent that'66 !!!

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Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 549 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My moneys on the host nation, Germany. I've got them in the sweep at work, so my fingers are well crossed! :P Deutschland, Deutschland über alles :P

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Brian Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 28th June 2006 Location: Forfar, Scotland Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well what did I say about France!!!!

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BigBoysToys Wheelnut Join Date: 31st May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i don't know much about futebol therefore i don't know who will win, but I know who will not ...

2nd July 2006, 23:06	#15 (permalink)
Brian Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 28th June 2006 Location: Forfar, Scotland Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Whole heartedly agree with your sentiments about honour and decency Karlak, thats the 2nd game in a row that I have seen Portugal use bad sportsmanship and down-right cheating to advance in this tournament (1st was against the Dutch) hope my tip France stick it to them in the next round.

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,760 Thanks: 7 Thanked 61 Times in 32 Posts	Have to say that I don't follow football at all - can't abide the pathetic faking and arguing with the ref that seems endemic throughout the sport, regardless of nation.

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Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As a football crazy neutral who likes to watch most matches I have to say the game in general is rapidly going downhill with all the diving and cheating going on. What gets me is the world cup referees did quite a good job of telling players to get UP and get on with it, but it still wasn't handled correctly... if he's waved "play on" then he's really saying that the player HAS DIVED yet no yellow card was shown on most occasions, if ref's start issuing yellow cards for EVERY dive then it may help to stop it, although then it's catch22... you'll see a player really fouled but because the referee didn't see it properly will book the player with the broken leg

3rd July 2006, 01:13	#18 (permalink)
BigBoysToys Wheelnut Join Date: 31st May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	From FIFA web page: Stats ENG \ POR ENG: 4 Shots on Goal 9 :POR ENG: 9 Shots 20 :POR ENG: 21 Fouls 10 :POR ENG: 6 Corner Kicks 4 :POR ENG: 1 Free Kicks 0 :POR ENG: 0 Offsides 3 :POR ENG: 0 Own Goals 0 :POR ENG: 2 Yellow Cards 2 :POR ENG: 1 Red Cards 0 :POR ENG: 43% Ball Possession 57% :POR I didn't see no faking during the penalties, but I saw the portuguese goalkeeper defending 3 penalties! It remainded me of 2002! Come on people, its sad not knowing how to loose, and I'll tell you something else, if Portugal looses the next match than I hope that the champion may be the French team. At least we will have lost only to the champions! Over and Out!

3rd July 2006, 12:34	#20 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yup no sour grapes here, just annoyed that FIFA cannot be consistent with punishments, there is NO WAY that Figo should still be playing in this WorldCup following that headbutt or whatever you wish to call it - TWICE Owen Hargreaves won the ball from Figo and a freekick was given to Figo. Rooney tries to stay honest, on his feet while being hacked at by 2 players - the referee could have blown for a freekick a long-time before the incident Anyway, we could analyze this all day long...