New Bus Lane

pjelsworth · 26th December 2006, 10:39

Don't take your Civic through here

http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/...t=true&fs=true

terry · 26th December 2006, 14:02

We have some of those in Cambridge.
There are loads of signs on the roads leading up to them, but still drivers get caught.

pcr · 1st January 2007, 21:36

I've not come across these but just can't believe how dangerous they appear to be. They look like death traps to me.

britsbest · 1st January 2007, 21:45

These are in Manchester, the video has been doing the rounds.
They are well signed here too.

czechplastik · 1st January 2007, 23:02

I don't know if its just me, but that link doesn't seem to work.

Pottsy · 2nd January 2007, 00:12

Interesting stuff. The first guy in the car waits for a bus and tries to sneak in right behind the bus. The bloke in the black van knows the posts are coming up and accelerates towards them, despite having kids in the vehicle, and the last white van at the end shows how much damage your head does to a windscreen when you're not wearing a seatbelt.

IMO, they all were playing dangerous roulette, and lost.

Bungle · 2nd January 2007, 08:53

I posted this a while ago

Clever bollards

pcr, they may be dangerous, but they are ignoring a big 'no entry' sign and are all well aware that they should not be driving down there. It is far less dangerous than ignoring a traffic light or a level crossing warning.
I for one think it is hilarious, as they are just ignoring the rules of the road, their insurers will not pay a penny out for them. They will be 100% liable for the damage to their vehicles and any damage to the street furniture, aka the magic bollards. Serves 'em right, IMO!

pcr · 2nd January 2007, 09:29

Bungle,
I mostly agree with you, in respect of the drivers, but I don't think the child in the rear of one of those cars should be put at risk because of a stupid parent.

Charles_Harding · 3rd January 2007, 12:54

I wonder if you can get them for home use?

Some guy, I assume, 3 point turned in the road outside my house, using my driveway to make it easier.

His manoeuvre knocked down the dividing wall twix me and my neighbour - he missed the Civic tho.!

Naturally he vanished without informing anyone of his actions.

Now I need some bollards and a ***** - .....and a new wall!

"Welcome to *hit Creek - Sorry we're out of paddles!"

Charles H.

generationgav · 3rd January 2007, 14:02

These are VERY clearly signed and then they notice that the bollards are there; also I think that all of them just tried going for it and knew about them. I don't think they're any more dangerous than a red light, crossing or similar.
The only other option I'd go for is a camera which catches and automatically fines any non-allowed vehicle which goes down there.

generationgav · 3rd January 2007, 14:02

These are VERY clearly signed and then they notice that the bollards are there; also I think that all of them just tried going for it and knew about them. I don't think they're any more dangerous than a red light, crossing or similar.
The only other option I'd go for is a camera which catches and automatically fines any non-allowed vehicle which goes down there.

And I live in Manchester, drive around this area all of the time and really do prefer that there isn't any traffic there, I think allowing cars to go through will cause more danger/risk and to more innocent people too (ie. pedestrians)

sco77harris · 3rd January 2007, 14:16

there was an article in the paper they may have to be removed as they are dnagerous

Topcat · 4th January 2007, 17:40

The link won't open for me but I looked at the link Bungle showed.

It seems people just do not understand how bus lanes operate in general. Most of the bus lanes by me operate between 7am - 10am and 4pm - 7pm, yet even when it is ok to use the lanes and the traffic is heavy people still avoid them as they cearly are not aware of the operating times.

It is actually quite worrying how few people actually take notice of the warning signs around them when they are behind a wheel!!

pjelsworth · 4th January 2007, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

The link won't open for me but I looked at the link Bungle showed.

It seems people just do not understand how bus lanes operate in general. Most of the bus lanes by me operate between 7am - 10am and 4pm - 7pm, yet even when it is ok to use the lanes and the traffic is heavy people still avoid them as they cearly are not aware of the operating times.

It is actually quite worrying how few people actually take notice of the warning signs around them when they are behind a wheel!!

I got my one and only offence for driving in a bus lane. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel. It was on a dual carriageway in Brum where the outside lane was closed for road works and the inside lane was a bus lane at peak times. The police were waiting at the end of road works and booked everyone that did not get out of the lane. I was 12th in line at the side of the road to receive my ticket

Topcat · 4th January 2007, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjelsworth

I got my one and only offence for driving in a bus lane. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel. It was on a dual carriageway in Brum where the outside lane was closed for road works and the inside lane was a bus lane at peak times. The police were waiting at the end of road works and booked everyone that did not get out of the lane. I was 12th in line at the side of the road to receive my ticket

So, if the outside lane was closed, how were people supposed to get down the road without going in the bus lane

I had to drive down a bus lane once when there had been an accident on the outide lane of a dual carriageway, the police were at the other end but they were re-assuring people that they would not get fined!!

pjelsworth · 5th January 2007, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

So, if the outside lane was closed, how were people supposed to get down the road without going in the bus lane

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. The police were waiting where the road works finished and it went back to 2 lanes, and if you did not pull out immediately they were pulling people in. I complained but got nowhere .... the law is the law is what I was quoted from the Chief Constable.

Glad to hear they were more sensible in your case

czechplastik · 6th January 2007, 23:04

To be honest i find that quite funny, i know i shouldn't but it really is the fault of the drivers. The first in the black SUV was going far too fast clearly not looking at signs and probably too fast for the area anyway. The Micra was just funny. Probably if it was supported by a local media awareness push it might succeed.

generationgav · 8th January 2007, 11:40

I should point out where this is as well.
There's 2 sets of signs saying bus lane only and it's down a little side street which is right in the city centre.
Nobody should be going at that speed in this area; when I drive around there (the area, not there exactly) I rarely go above 20 because there's so many people around.
I'm a pedestrian in Manchester and a driver and I think wholeheartedly that they should stay! Why put innocent pedestrians at risk (quite a few people got knocked down in the area) instead of stupid prats who choose to ignore signs.

generationgav · 8th January 2007, 11:40

I should point out where this is as well.
There's 2 sets of signs saying bus lane only and it's down a little side street which is right in the city centre.
Nobody should be going at that speed in this area; when I drive around there (the area, not there exactly) I rarely go above 20 because there's so many people around.
I'm a pedestrian in Manchester and a driver and I think wholeheartedly that they should stay! Why put innocent pedestrians at risk (quite a few people got knocked down in the area) instead of stupid prats who choose to ignore signs.

26th December 2006, 10:39	#1 (permalink)
pjelsworth Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Halifax, W. Yorks Posts: 379 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	New Bus Lane Don't take your Civic through here http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/...t=true&fs=true

1st January 2007, 21:45	#4 (permalink)
britsbest Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 9th September 2006 Location: Cheadle Hulme Posts: 230 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Manchester These are in Manchester, the video has been doing the rounds. They are well signed here too.

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,222 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I posted this a while ago Clever bollards pcr, they may be dangerous, but they are ignoring a big 'no entry' sign and are all well aware that they should not be driving down there. It is far less dangerous than ignoring a traffic light or a level crossing warning. I for one think it is hilarious, as they are just ignoring the rules of the road, their insurers will not pay a penny out for them. They will be 100% liable for the damage to their vehicles and any damage to the street furniture, aka the magic bollards. Serves 'em right, IMO! Last edited by Bungle; 2nd January 2007 at 08:59.

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26th December 2006, 14:02	#2 (permalink)
terry Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th September 2006 Location: Cambridge Posts: 358 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	We have some of those in Cambridge. There are loads of signs on the roads leading up to them, but still drivers get caught.

1st January 2007, 21:36	#3 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 850 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I've not come across these but just can't believe how dangerous they appear to be. They look like death traps to me.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,727 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I don't know if its just me, but that link doesn't seem to work.

2nd January 2007, 00:12	#6 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,902 Thanks: 26 Thanked 234 Times in 126 Posts iTrader: (0)	Interesting stuff. The first guy in the car waits for a bus and tries to sneak in right behind the bus. The bloke in the black van knows the posts are coming up and accelerates towards them, despite having kids in the vehicle, and the last white van at the end shows how much damage your head does to a windscreen when you're not wearing a seatbelt. IMO, they all were playing dangerous roulette, and lost.

2nd January 2007, 09:29	#8 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 850 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Bungle, I mostly agree with you, in respect of the drivers, but I don't think the child in the rear of one of those cars should be put at risk because of a stupid parent.

3rd January 2007, 12:54	#9 (permalink)
Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,298 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	I wonder if you can get them for home use? Some guy, I assume, 3 point turned in the road outside my house, using my driveway to make it easier. His manoeuvre knocked down the dividing wall twix me and my neighbour - he missed the Civic tho.! Naturally he vanished without informing anyone of his actions. Now I need some bollards and a *** - .....and a new wall! "Welcome to hit Creek - Sorry we're out of paddles!"*** Charles H.

3rd January 2007, 14:02	#10 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	These are VERY clearly signed and then they notice that the bollards are there; also I think that all of them just tried going for it and knew about them. I don't think they're any more dangerous than a red light, crossing or similar. The only other option I'd go for is a camera which catches and automatically fines any non-allowed vehicle which goes down there.

3rd January 2007, 14:02	#11 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	These are VERY clearly signed and then they notice that the bollards are there; also I think that all of them just tried going for it and knew about them. I don't think they're any more dangerous than a red light, crossing or similar. The only other option I'd go for is a camera which catches and automatically fines any non-allowed vehicle which goes down there. And I live in Manchester, drive around this area all of the time and really do prefer that there isn't any traffic there, I think allowing cars to go through will cause more danger/risk and to more innocent people too (ie. pedestrians)

3rd January 2007, 14:16	#12 (permalink)
sco77harris Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: stanmore london Posts: 974 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	there was an article in the paper they may have to be removed as they are dnagerous

4th January 2007, 17:40	#13 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	The link won't open for me but I looked at the link Bungle showed. It seems people just do not understand how bus lanes operate in general. Most of the bus lanes by me operate between 7am - 10am and 4pm - 7pm, yet even when it is ok to use the lanes and the traffic is heavy people still avoid them as they cearly are not aware of the operating times. It is actually quite worrying how few people actually take notice of the warning signs around them when they are behind a wheel!!

6th January 2007, 23:04	#17 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,727 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	To be honest i find that quite funny, i know i shouldn't but it really is the fault of the drivers. The first in the black SUV was going far too fast clearly not looking at signs and probably too fast for the area anyway. The Micra was just funny. Probably if it was supported by a local media awareness push it might succeed.

8th January 2007, 11:40	#18 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I should point out where this is as well. There's 2 sets of signs saying bus lane only and it's down a little side street which is right in the city centre. Nobody should be going at that speed in this area; when I drive around there (the area, not there exactly) I rarely go above 20 because there's so many people around. I'm a pedestrian in Manchester and a driver and I think wholeheartedly that they should stay! Why put innocent pedestrians at risk (quite a few people got knocked down in the area) instead of stupid prats who choose to ignore signs.

8th January 2007, 11:40	#19 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I should point out where this is as well. There's 2 sets of signs saying bus lane only and it's down a little side street which is right in the city centre. Nobody should be going at that speed in this area; when I drive around there (the area, not there exactly) I rarely go above 20 because there's so many people around. I'm a pedestrian in Manchester and a driver and I think wholeheartedly that they should stay! Why put innocent pedestrians at risk (quite a few people got knocked down in the area) instead of stupid prats who choose to ignore signs.