Flying stuff

lippy · 2nd March 2007, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

My fingers have been crossed for a while now - hopefully not for much longer.

Must make flying interesting!!!!

Do you land like in that other thread with your fingers crossed????

czechplastik · 2nd March 2007, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by lippy

Must make flying interesting!!!!

Do you land like in that other thread with your fingers crossed????

Thats why I go Ryanair, the Pilots pay more attention!

Pottsy · 2nd March 2007, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Thats why I go Ryanair, the Pilots pay more attention!

Ah... Ryan air. May I suggest that as passengers you all keep your fingers crossed

sarahjo · 2nd March 2007, 19:57

Can we please stop making insinuations how do u spell that word) about flying......i am off to Jersey on Monday and i don't like flying.......does the fact a big company have paid for the flight mean u get a big plane!!!! I don't want to go on a prop plane....Pottsy help me!!!!!!

Pottsy · 2nd March 2007, 20:38

Sarahjo,

OK, here goes:

The size of the aircraft doesn't matter, so long as it has gas turbine engines. All passenger aircraft now have turbine engines. Some of these turbines have a fan shaped propeller pushing the air (these are called turbofan engines) and some have a propeller shaped propeller pushing the air (turboprops). So all are powered by turbines, and so all are safe.

Here's a safe aircraft with props inside a case:

a319.jpg

And here's a safe aircraft with props not in a case:

dash8.jpg

Now, would a McDonalds manager eat out at a McDonalds? Probably not, because he knows what goes on.

The pilot community is small, and we all know many others that fly for many different airlines. These airlines all have different safety systems and cultures, and treat their employees differently.

And I would happily fly on any European airline, with the exception of a small Italian one, and an Irish one. Purely because those two keep having remarkably close calls with the ground.

So don't worry about the aircraft, and don't worry about the airline, unless it's one that you know has had close calls. Try and think of the last incident involving a UK airline - 1980's I think it was... You'll be fine. Don't forget to tell the crew that you're nervous though, they'll then look after you, and are quite used to it.

lippy · 2nd March 2007, 21:07

Good post Pottsy, found it interesting.

I have flown in smallish plane from Bournemouth (Hurn) airport - known as a whisper jet - to Cyprus and in 767s and 747s from Gatwick to the States. Does the engine bit apply to them as well? Sorry for my ignorance - to me they are all jets.

Can't say I have ever had a bad flight or landing (been going to the states every year (except 2004) since 1997) but I have only flown UK firms (Virgin, BA, XL, and a few other charter firms) and have only respect for you pilots.

sarahjo · 2nd March 2007, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by lippy

Good post Pottsy, found it interesting.

I have flown in smallish plane from Bournemouth (Hurn) airport - known as a whisper jet - to Cyprus and in 767s and 747s from Gatwick to the States. Does the engine bit apply to them as well? Sorry for my ignorance - to me they are all jets.

Can't say I have ever had a bad flight or landing but I have only flown UK firms (Virgin, BA, XL, and a few other charter firms) and have only respect for you pilots.

Lippy...reallly u are not helping me...flying Sarah...not a good combination
Sarah...driving her Saffy hard and fast good combination....
Have a hand holding buddy.....hope i am not gonna die!!!!!ok i am panicking!!!!

lippy · 2nd March 2007, 21:19

Not trying to frighten you sarajo - honest. I know how you feel - my first EVER flight was to the USA (and its 9 HOURS) and I was terrified. Once the staff knew it was our first ever flight they were kindness itself and made sure we were ok.

Because of them we have flown quite happily since.

Also I hate being driven by other people so everytime I get in someone elses car I am terrified - so I do understand what you are going through. I even hate being driven by hubbie in my own car and he is a very good driver.

sarahjo · 2nd March 2007, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by lippy

Not trying to frighten you sarajo - honest. I know how you feel - my first EVER flight was to the USA (and its 9 HOURS) and I was terrified. Once the staff knew it was our first ever flight they were kindness itself and made sure we were ok.

Because of them we have flown quite happily since.

Also I hate being driven by other people so everytime I get in someone elses car I am terrified - so I do understand what you are going through. I even hate being driven by hubbie in my own car and he is a very good driver.

Lippy this is far from my first flight...if i was to tell u my first flight was with Dan Air....FLy dan air if u dare...and it took the ******* 3 attempts to get off the ground u might understand my paranioa!! BUt i thank u for ** support...please pray i will hit water if all else fails i will chech i have a life jackeet...lol

lippy · 2nd March 2007, 21:29

Well I was older than you are now at my first flight so i have heard of dan air....

i'm paranoid about being driven by others - even buses - so how sad is that!!

Much happier being the pilot in my own 'spaceship'

sarahjo · 2nd March 2007, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by lippy

Well I was older than you are now at my first flight so i have heard of dan air....

i'm paranoid about being driven by others - even buses - so how sad is that!!

Much happier being the pilot in my own 'spaceship'

Yeah i am feeling that Lippy....i am the driver of my own space ship...doesn't solve my flight on monday...but i am the driver of my own space ship

jasmac · 2nd March 2007, 22:40

Hi sarahjo i work at an airport and fondly remember them as dan dare
think of your flight as driving the ultimate civic with BIG engines hi hi

okehciv · 3rd March 2007, 00:50

You will be fine SJ,
coz you have the meet to go to on 25th,not thinking of letting us down are you.

PhilCarrie · 3rd March 2007, 07:21

i've only ever had one bad landing...... looked like we were descending through clouds out of the window.... but under the clouds was fog which all blended into one..... we "landed" with such force we bounced back up then bounced again from left wheel to right. When the plane stopped everyone clapped and cheered and the pilot came on the tannoy and said he was sorry for the bumpy landing. we then couldn't take off (same plane stopover thingy at dublin) cos he said there was fog at manchester and he didn't have ILS or something like that!!

flown loads of times since, never had probs or get worried.

more likely to have someone hit your car (TC) than have an incident in a plane.

sarahjo · 3rd March 2007, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by okehciv

You will be fine SJ,
coz you have the meet to go to on 25th,not thinking of letting us down are you.

Oh u have uncovered my plan

No...i'll be there

sarahjo · 3rd March 2007, 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasmac

Hi sarahjo i work at an airport and fondly remember them as dan dare
think of your flight as driving the ultimate civic with BIG engines hi hi

Funnilly enough i flew with dan air.........and that was my very first flight....and it was horrific.....hence the fear of flying

Miggins · 3rd March 2007, 11:50

Fly with the Army Air Corps - great fun - especially when they deliberately drop a few thousand feet out the sky to take a closer look at the ground.

I flew with Thai air and was most disconcerted to see how glibly they went through the life jacket drill - it was over in seconds. Yes I know its not going to help much at 30,000 ft but all the same I was flying over a lot of water and landing at an airport by the sea.

Some tips
Sit near a door - pref within 7 rows and near the wings
Wear your seat belt all the time and know how to release it
Count the number of rows to the nearest exit.
Better if you don't have a row of seats directly in front of you
(and other bits I cant remember)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5402342.stm

richierich · 3rd March 2007, 12:04

No bad landings here, just an aborted take off, we were well down the runway when the engines were cut and the brakes applied rather sharpish, we pulled off and sat on a quiet corner of Edinburgh airport for an hour with the engines revving, and slowing down again, then as calm as you like the standard BA pilots voice came on the tannoy, and apologised for the aborted take off, "but we had a few lights pop up", "we'll go round again and have another go", then spending 1 hour wondering if the lights might spoil the landing at Heathrow.

Thinking of perceived close calls, we were flying back from Entebbe in Uganda a couple of years ago, I was looking out of the window, somewhere over southern Libya when the plane made a violent swing to the right, and a plane flew the other way, a few hundred (maybe even thousand) feet below, made my butt pucker alright!

allan40alt · 3rd March 2007, 16:57

Wow, a plane especially for me!

Allan Turner.

2nd March 2007, 21:07	#6 (permalink)
lippy Bournemouth Belle Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 454 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good post Pottsy, found it interesting. I have flown in smallish plane from Bournemouth (Hurn) airport - known as a whisper jet - to Cyprus and in 767s and 747s from Gatwick to the States. Does the engine bit apply to them as well? Sorry for my ignorance - to me they are all jets. Can't say I have ever had a bad flight or landing (been going to the states every year (except 2004) since 1997) but I have only flown UK firms (Virgin, BA, XL, and a few other charter firms) and have only respect for you pilots. Last edited by lippy; 2nd March 2007 at 21:10.

3rd March 2007, 11:50	#17 (permalink)
Miggins Enthusiastic Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 25th August 2006 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 531 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Don't be alarmed - just increase the odds! Fly with the Army Air Corps - great fun - especially when they deliberately drop a few thousand feet out the sky to take a closer look at the ground. I flew with Thai air and was most disconcerted to see how glibly they went through the life jacket drill - it was over in seconds. Yes I know its not going to help much at 30,000 ft but all the same I was flying over a lot of water and landing at an airport by the sea. Some tips Sit near a door - pref within 7 rows and near the wings Wear your seat belt all the time and know how to release it Count the number of rows to the nearest exit. Better if you don't have a row of seats directly in front of you (and other bits I cant remember) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5402342.stm

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This thread is about: Flying stuff, it's in Any non Civic chat here please! at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by Pottsy My fingers have been crossed for a while now - hopefully not for much longer. Must make flying interesting!!!! Do you ...

2nd March 2007, 19:57	#4 (permalink)
sarahjo Fallen Angel Rocketship door handle Join Date: 16th October 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,229 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Can we please stop making insinuations how do u spell that word) about flying......i am off to Jersey on Monday and i don't like flying.......does the fact a big company have paid for the flight mean u get a big plane!!!! I don't want to go on a prop plane....Pottsy help me!!!!!!

2nd March 2007, 20:38	#5 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,467 Thanks: 22 Thanked 164 Times in 97 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sarahjo, OK, here goes: The size of the aircraft doesn't matter, so long as it has gas turbine engines. All passenger aircraft now have turbine engines. Some of these turbines have a fan shaped propeller pushing the air (these are called turbofan engines) and some have a propeller shaped propeller pushing the air (turboprops). So all are powered by turbines, and so all are safe. Here's a safe aircraft with props inside a case: a319.jpg And here's a safe aircraft with props not in a case: dash8.jpg Now, would a McDonalds manager eat out at a McDonalds? Probably not, because he knows what goes on. The pilot community is small, and we all know many others that fly for many different airlines. These airlines all have different safety systems and cultures, and treat their employees differently. And I would happily fly on any European airline, with the exception of a small Italian one, and an Irish one. Purely because those two keep having remarkably close calls with the ground. So don't worry about the aircraft, and don't worry about the airline, unless it's one that you know has had close calls. Try and think of the last incident involving a UK airline - 1980's I think it was... You'll be fine. Don't forget to tell the crew that you're nervous though, they'll then look after you, and are quite used to it.

2nd March 2007, 21:19	#8 (permalink)
lippy Bournemouth Belle Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 454 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	Not trying to frighten you sarajo - honest. I know how you feel - my first EVER flight was to the USA (and its 9 HOURS) and I was terrified. Once the staff knew it was our first ever flight they were kindness itself and made sure we were ok. Because of them we have flown quite happily since. Also I hate being driven by other people so everytime I get in someone elses car I am terrified - so I do understand what you are going through. I even hate being driven by hubbie in my own car and he is a very good driver.

2nd March 2007, 21:29	#10 (permalink)
lippy Bournemouth Belle Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 454 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well I was older than you are now at my first flight so i have heard of dan air.... i'm paranoid about being driven by others - even buses - so how sad is that!! Much happier being the pilot in my own 'spaceship'

2nd March 2007, 22:40	#12 (permalink)
jasmac Valve Cap Join Date: 14th February 2007 Location: SOUTH AYRSHIRE Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi sarahjo i work at an airport and fondly remember them as dan dare think of your flight as driving the ultimate civic with BIG engines hi hi

3rd March 2007, 00:50	#13 (permalink)
okehciv Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 21st January 2007 Location: shaw gtr manchester Posts: 977 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	You will be fine SJ, coz you have the meet to go to on 25th,not thinking of letting us down are you.

3rd March 2007, 07:21	#14 (permalink)
PhilCarrie Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 15th January 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	i've only ever had one bad landing...... looked like we were descending through clouds out of the window.... but under the clouds was fog which all blended into one..... we "landed" with such force we bounced back up then bounced again from left wheel to right. When the plane stopped everyone clapped and cheered and the pilot came on the tannoy and said he was sorry for the bumpy landing. we then couldn't take off (same plane stopover thingy at dublin) cos he said there was fog at manchester and he didn't have ILS or something like that!! flown loads of times since, never had probs or get worried. more likely to have someone hit your car (TC) than have an incident in a plane.

3rd March 2007, 12:04	#18 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	No bad landings here, just an aborted take off, we were well down the runway when the engines were cut and the brakes applied rather sharpish, we pulled off and sat on a quiet corner of Edinburgh airport for an hour with the engines revving, and slowing down again, then as calm as you like the standard BA pilots voice came on the tannoy, and apologised for the aborted take off, "but we had a few lights pop up", "we'll go round again and have another go", then spending 1 hour wondering if the lights might spoil the landing at Heathrow. Thinking of perceived close calls, we were flying back from Entebbe in Uganda a couple of years ago, I was looking out of the window, somewhere over southern Libya when the plane made a violent swing to the right, and a plane flew the other way, a few hundred (maybe even thousand) feet below, made my butt pucker alright!

3rd March 2007, 16:57	#19 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,255 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	Wow, a plane especially for me! Allan Turner.