Airbus automatic landing video

Pottsy · 11th May 2007, 10:33

Just a bit of fun...

Here's a fully automatic landing (it was a training flight, so I am sitting on the jump seat keeping myself occupied by videoing) at Venice. The autopilots do the whole job, and even get the aircraft so central on the runway that the nose wheel bangs the cats eyes. Humans take control again at the end of the landing roll, when you hear the loud triple chime.

EDIT: Sorry the video has been removed.

elfa7 · 11th May 2007, 10:57

Incredible accuracy by auto pilot. I think pilots will be "surplus to requirement", in the not too distant future !!

Pottsy · 11th May 2007, 11:27

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Originally Posted by elfa7

Incredible accuracy by auto pilot. I think pilots will be "surplus to requirement", in the not too distant future !!

It's what the manufacturers are talking about - getting the automatics good enough so that they can reduce the number of pilots to one, but it will be a good couple of decades yet... The current systems are good when they work, but are limited and not totally reliable. We just sit there waiting to take over when they get in a huff.

Bine · 11th May 2007, 11:54

very interesting video, thank you for sharing !

smb09_1999 · 11th May 2007, 12:06

Thats coooool, cheers Pottsy! Always wanted to be a pilot and now with the Civic I am!

thiswilldo · 11th May 2007, 12:37

Soon there will be just one pilot and a dog up front....the dog is there to bite the pilot in case he touches anything !

Sorry, I can't resist the old jokes.

GHGH · 11th May 2007, 13:26

Apropos the implications of advanced technology:
I've read an urban legend that one of the Airbus planes is too heavy to take off when carrying its own documentation printed on paper.
Is this true, Pottsy?

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 17:10

They're excellent videos! Very interesting!

What does the computer shout 3 times upon touching down?

sfboy · 11th May 2007, 17:32

retard- as oppose to accelerate I guess

Jayne · 11th May 2007, 17:33

CZ - it shouts 'retard', that much I know. I'll leave it up to the master to explain when he comes home from being shouted at by a machine.

apemonkeyman · 11th May 2007, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

The autopilots do the whole job, and even get the aircraft so central on the runway that the nose wheel bangs the cats eyes.

Thought that noise were the rumble strips to tell you to slow down!

I heard they had to build in a slight random factor on some system or other cos the impact of the landing on the same bit of the runway everytime was causing the surface to break up.

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

What does the computer shout 3 times upon touching down?

Sounds like it's calling the pilot "retard, retard, retard"... not very nice especially after all the training they have to go thru!

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayne

CZ - it shouts 'retard', that much I know. I'll leave it up to the master to explain when he comes home from being shouted at by a machine.

Thats what I thought....for some reason it just makes me laugh!

Beats being shouted at by the wife....

MC Hammer · 11th May 2007, 17:50

Isn't the plane trying to wake the retard (sorry Pilot up)?

The pilots do need to keep their hand in by doing some manual flying too, I hope!!
Cars are going that way too with auto parking, advanced cruise control, auto braking and lane keep assistance. If they work well and they link to Sat Nav and voice control; take me home will bring a whole new dimension.

Pottsy · 11th May 2007, 23:57

There is no "random" system - just the pilots. I'd say one landing in 100 is automatic (maybe even less) and most of those are "practice" to keep us current or to check the aircraft. The automatic system is quite limited; for example no more than 20 knots crosswind (compared to 33 for a human), and needs special systems on the ground which not all airports have.

The urban myth is probably referring to the manufacturing documents, and it wouldn't surprise me. But the operating documents are all in a laptop (when we flew the Boeing we carried boxes and boxes of thick A5 folders).

The call is "Retard", the autopilot is just asking the pilot to move the thrust levers to idle, it can't do it itself. Though, yes, we all think it is just commenting on our flying ability...

sarahjo · 12th May 2007, 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayne

CZ - it shouts 'retard', that much I know. I'll leave it up to the master to explain when he comes home from being shouted at by a machine.

Hi Jayne.....those were my thoughts exactly who was it shouting retard at!!!!!!

Jools100 · 12th May 2007, 00:48

Great vids Pottsy. Whilst we're on the flying subject I have a quick question. Why do the cabin lights have to be dimmed on take off and landing during night flights

. I always find it a bit earie.

czechplastik · 12th May 2007, 05:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jools100

Great vids Pottsy. Whilst we're on the flying subject I have a quick question. Why do the cabin lights have to be dimmed on take off and landing during night flights

. I always find it a bit earie.

I'm going to try and appear intelligent here...I hope I'm right!

The cabin lights are dimmed upon take off and landing as these are the times when an accident is most likely to occur. If some form of accident did happen the lights would probably be one of the first things to be affected. If you are already in a slightly darkened environment and the lights fail it won't take so long for your eyes to adjust and save time/give you a better chance of making your escape!

Think of being in a brightly lit room then having the lights turned off and trying to find your way around, can be difficult until your eyes have adjusted to the new lighting.

raineeslover · 12th May 2007, 07:30

Pottsy,

Bet you cannot do this with your airbus!

http://video.aol.co.uk/video-funny/1875561

Type S Bournemouth · 12th May 2007, 07:35

looks a bit scary doesnt it landing in the fog.

apemonkeyman · 12th May 2007, 09:42

Landed at Bristol a few years back in December & the fog was so thick we couldn't see the runway until a split second before touch down. That was quite heart stopping to suddenly see fast moving concrete appear & the rattly rumbling kick in!

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,441 Thanks: 22 Thanked 158 Times in 95 Posts iTrader: (0)	Airbus automatic landing video Just a bit of fun... Here's a fully automatic landing (it was a training flight, so I am sitting on the jump seat keeping myself occupied by videoing) at Venice. The autopilots do the whole job, and even get the aircraft so central on the runway that the nose wheel bangs the cats eyes. Humans take control again at the end of the landing roll, when you hear the loud triple chime. EDIT: Sorry the video has been removed.

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elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Incredible accuracy by auto pilot. I think pilots will be "surplus to requirement", in the not too distant future !!

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Bine Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd January 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	very interesting video, thank you for sharing !

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thiswilldo Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Plymouth. UK. Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Soon there will be just one pilot and a dog up front....the dog is there to bite the pilot in case he touches anything ! Sorry, I can't resist the old jokes.

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GHGH Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 13th March 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,025 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Apropos the implications of advanced technology: I've read an urban legend that one of the Airbus planes is too heavy to take off when carrying its own documentation printed on paper. Is this true, Pottsy?

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,647 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	They're excellent videos! Very interesting! What does the computer shout 3 times upon touching down?

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sfboy Wheelnut Join Date: 8th January 2007 Location: UK Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	retard- as oppose to accelerate I guess

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Jayne Webmistress Wheelnut Join Date: 10th April 2006 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	CZ - it shouts 'retard', that much I know. I'll leave it up to the master to explain when he comes home from being shouted at by a machine.

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MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 613 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Isn't the plane trying to wake the retard (sorry Pilot up)? The pilots do need to keep their hand in by doing some manual flying too, I hope!! Cars are going that way too with auto parking, advanced cruise control, auto braking and lane keep assistance. If they work well and they link to Sat Nav and voice control; take me home will bring a whole new dimension.

11th May 2007, 23:57	#14 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,441 Thanks: 22 Thanked 158 Times in 95 Posts iTrader: (0)	There is no "random" system - just the pilots. I'd say one landing in 100 is automatic (maybe even less) and most of those are "practice" to keep us current or to check the aircraft. The automatic system is quite limited; for example no more than 20 knots crosswind (compared to 33 for a human), and needs special systems on the ground which not all airports have. The urban myth is probably referring to the manufacturing documents, and it wouldn't surprise me. But the operating documents are all in a laptop (when we flew the Boeing we carried boxes and boxes of thick A5 folders). The call is "Retard", the autopilot is just asking the pilot to move the thrust levers to idle, it can't do it itself. Though, yes, we all think it is just commenting on our flying ability...

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Jools100 Wheelnut Join Date: 28th March 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Great vids Pottsy. Whilst we're on the flying subject I have a quick question. Why do the cabin lights have to be dimmed on take off and landing during night flights . I always find it a bit earie.

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raineeslover Valve Cap Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Bromley, Kent Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Pottsy, Bet you cannot do this with your airbus! http://video.aol.co.uk/video-funny/1875561

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Type S Bournemouth Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 3rd October 2006 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 976 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	looks a bit scary doesnt it landing in the fog.

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apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 664 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Landed at Bristol a few years back in December & the fog was so thick we couldn't see the runway until a split second before touch down. That was quite heart stopping to suddenly see fast moving concrete appear & the rattly rumbling kick in!