New corolla for europe?

pikkumies · 11th August 2006, 17:12

I heard Toyota scrapped the next gen corolla and did a complete rewrite after seeing the civic. Also the name propably will be changed from Corolla to something other. The next gen corolla will be displayed at the paris car show next month. I bet it's still the same old boring corolla as before, cant be a match to the civic

Ancient Nerd · 11th August 2006, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikkumies

Also the name propably will be changed from Corolla to something other.

Corollary perhaps

Mind you, it might have a working HFT

Copycat · 11th August 2006, 18:58

Maybe even a built in iPod connection. :P

basegreen · 11th August 2006, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikkumies

Also the name propably will be changed from Corolla to something other.

Corollary perhaps

Mind you, it might have a working HFT

LOL Corollary. That's really witty!

Raegten · 13th August 2006, 19:46

I test drove the current model corolla.....now there's an old persons car!
In fairness once I'd driven the civic all the other cars started to look old fashioned.
Not only have Honda released a great new car....all the other dealers will just have to get more adventurous in their designs. We should see some great new models over the coming years. The way the Civic is selling so well to all age groups you can see that the market was crying out for something new. The car that got me started on a new car search was the Prius. But just before settling on the Civic I sat back into a Prius and it seemed so lame and dull. Hybrid engines (especially hybrid diesels!!) are the way forward but not at the expense of design. My next car may well be the Civic Hybrid if they ever release it in the European Hatchback model.

Big-Chris · 14th August 2006, 15:46

Never liked the Corolla particularly, but I can't complain too loud because I know the guy responsible for developing the current model

richierich · 14th August 2006, 16:08

That should be more reason to have a go.

Big-Chris · 14th August 2006, 21:17

yeah you'd think, only problem is he's my boss!

Ancient Nerd · 14th August 2006, 21:24

So you're voting with your feet instead?

richierich · 15th August 2006, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

So you're voting with your feet instead?

Yeah, he'd rather walk than go in a Corolla.

Big-Chris · 15th August 2006, 10:20

don't get me wrong - I have a lot of respect for toyota (I kinda have to in my line of business) but their current model range is a little 'lack-lustre' to say the least.

They are extremely capable, reliable and high quality cars and globally very popular as evidenced by 2005 sales figures of 7.4 million units and a net profit of 1.17trillion Yen (that's £5,300,000,000

)

But by God they are dull!!

jayt43 · 15th August 2006, 11:51

I must say that, apart from the current Corolla looking rather dull, it also suffers from very poor rear legroom. Certainly, not anywhere near the new Civic is the accommodation stakes.

Yes, I know it'll shortly be replaced, but even if Toyota have (to a certain extent) gone back to the drawing board, it's still pretty much impossible to do more than cosmetically tweak any new design at this late stage. So, I predict it'll be slightly less dull than the dull design they originally envisaged.

That said, Toyotas are extremely reliable and well screwed together. I also think that the new Aygo is a cracking little car. Borrowed one for 2 days recently and, even on puny tyres, it was extremely chuckable on the twisty bits. Lovely gear shift, comfy suspension (unlike my old Jazz) and a rev happy engine that sounds like a baby 911. Terrific!

In fact, if I hadn't bought a Civic I'd probably go for one of those. Yep, I know a class below (at least) but it was actually more fun than a Golf or Astra to drive and is dirt cheap to tax, insure and run. In fact, I could (in Hungary) buy nearly 2.5 Aygos for the price of my new Civic!!

Admittedly, you can only just about fit a small ferret in the boot, but it's everything that the original mini was, namely a fun, basic runabout in an extremely well-designed small package.

That said, Honda's range is infinitely more interesting than Toyota's. And think that now, many more people are associating Honda with innovative, breathrough technologies and exciting new cars. Whereas with Toyota and even Lexus, people just yawn and then try to change the subject...

jayt43 · 15th August 2006, 12:48

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Copycat · 29th September 2006, 07:59

Check out the new Toyota Auris! Looks exactly the same as the current Corolla! Well ok, not exactly the same but the rumours of Toyota going back to the drawing board after Honda unveiled the Civic seem to have been largely exaggerated.

And this is just the concept. I guess there's still a chance they'll tone it down, make it look more plain.

basegreen · 29th September 2006, 08:28

*that* is fugly

richierich · 29th September 2006, 08:44

The car or the models jacket?

sco77harris · 29th September 2006, 09:39

jayt43 · 29th September 2006, 10:12

Apparently, they're going to knock the Corolla name on the head after 40 years. Instead, they'll call it the Auris.

The production version is even more yawn inducing. This is one dull looking MOFO!!

As Kia and Hyundai will soon be introducing new vehicles with infinitely more design character than the Auris, Toyota should be very worried.
And, I suspect, Honda execs won't be losing any sleepless nights either

After all, looks get people into the car showroom and this thing is just so

Copycat · 30th September 2006, 06:20

Oh but not to worry. We Finns will buy scores of these things, despite any obvious short-comings. They are very reliable and in our unimaginative heads that is all that matters. [/rant]

Cad · 30th September 2006, 17:17

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Originally Posted by jayt43

Admittedly, you can only just about fit a small ferret in the boot...

I guess that's why they don't sell so well north of Watford?

... I'll get me coat.

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Copycat Galaxy class starship Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Check out the new Toyota Auris! Looks exactly the same as the current Corolla! Well ok, not exactly the same but the rumours of Toyota going back to the drawing board after Honda unveiled the Civic seem to have been largely exaggerated. And this is just the concept. I guess there's still a chance they'll tone it down, make it look more plain. Last edited by Copycat; 29th September 2006 at 08:07. Reason: Added concept-comment

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Raegten Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 125 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I test drove the current model corolla.....now there's an old persons car! In fairness once I'd driven the civic all the other cars started to look old fashioned. Not only have Honda released a great new car....all the other dealers will just have to get more adventurous in their designs. We should see some great new models over the coming years. The way the Civic is selling so well to all age groups you can see that the market was crying out for something new. The car that got me started on a new car search was the Prius. But just before settling on the Civic I sat back into a Prius and it seemed so lame and dull. Hybrid engines (especially hybrid diesels!!) are the way forward but not at the expense of design. My next car may well be the Civic Hybrid if they ever release it in the European Hatchback model.

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Big-Chris Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 31st July 2006 Location: Lincoln Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Never liked the Corolla particularly, but I can't complain too loud because I know the guy responsible for developing the current model

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	That should be more reason to have a go.

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Big-Chris Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 31st July 2006 Location: Lincoln Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	yeah you'd think, only problem is he's my boss!

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Ancient Nerd Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	So you're voting with your feet instead?

15th August 2006, 10:20	#11 (permalink)
Big-Chris Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 31st July 2006 Location: Lincoln Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	don't get me wrong - I have a lot of respect for toyota (I kinda have to in my line of business) but their current model range is a little 'lack-lustre' to say the least. They are extremely capable, reliable and high quality cars and globally very popular as evidenced by 2005 sales figures of 7.4 million units and a net profit of 1.17trillion Yen (that's £5,300,000,000 ) But by God they are dull!!

15th August 2006, 11:51	#12 (permalink)
jayt43 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 509 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I must say that, apart from the current Corolla looking rather dull, it also suffers from very poor rear legroom. Certainly, not anywhere near the new Civic is the accommodation stakes. Yes, I know it'll shortly be replaced, but even if Toyota have (to a certain extent) gone back to the drawing board, it's still pretty much impossible to do more than cosmetically tweak any new design at this late stage. So, I predict it'll be slightly less dull than the dull design they originally envisaged. That said, Toyotas are extremely reliable and well screwed together. I also think that the new Aygo is a cracking little car. Borrowed one for 2 days recently and, even on puny tyres, it was extremely chuckable on the twisty bits. Lovely gear shift, comfy suspension (unlike my old Jazz) and a rev happy engine that sounds like a baby 911. Terrific! In fact, if I hadn't bought a Civic I'd probably go for one of those. Yep, I know a class below (at least) but it was actually more fun than a Golf or Astra to drive and is dirt cheap to tax, insure and run. In fact, I could (in Hungary) buy nearly 2.5 Aygos for the price of my new Civic!! Admittedly, you can only just about fit a small ferret in the boot, but it's everything that the original mini was, namely a fun, basic runabout in an extremely well-designed small package. That said, Honda's range is infinitely more interesting than Toyota's. And think that now, many more people are associating Honda with innovative, breathrough technologies and exciting new cars. Whereas with Toyota and even Lexus, people just yawn and then try to change the subject...

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basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	that is fugly

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The car or the models jacket?

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jayt43 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 509 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Apparently, they're going to knock the Corolla name on the head after 40 years. Instead, they'll call it the Auris. The production version is even more yawn inducing. This is one dull looking MOFO!! As Kia and Hyundai will soon be introducing new vehicles with infinitely more design character than the Auris, Toyota should be very worried. And, I suspect, Honda execs won't be losing any sleepless nights either After all, looks get people into the car showroom and this thing is just so

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Copycat Galaxy class starship Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Oh but not to worry. We Finns will buy scores of these things, despite any obvious short-comings. They are very reliable and in our unimaginative heads that is all that matters. [/rant]