And the UK justice system fails once more.

Jpetrie · 27th July 2012, 02:40

So I know a guy, he's about as stable as a 3 legged chair. Couple of years older than me at 24 and is currently on his third drink driving ban.

First he did a 12 month ban, second he got 15 months and the third he got... 8 weeks.

That'll teach him

rowbo · 27th July 2012, 04:10

good to see drink driving still being taken so seriously

8 weeks

thats disgusting , he should be locked up for everyones safety

rossk1009 · 27th July 2012, 06:31

That's shocking. I thought they were threatening with taking your car off you if convicted for a second time.

The justice system is a joke anyway. You get more time for stealing than you do for ending someone's life

Kremmen · 27th July 2012, 06:33

I've always maintained that if your caught whilst banned you should be forced to wear a locked large right leg device that makes it impossible to drive.

rossk1009 · 27th July 2012, 06:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kremmen

I've always maintained that if your caught whilst banned you should be forced to wear a locked large right leg device that makes it impossible to drive.

A full leg cast?

Kremmen · 27th July 2012, 08:42

I was thinking along the lines of a sort of mini ankle 'stocks' thing that had a side piece of about 6" so your leg would not fit in the accelerator area. If you tried rotating it then you would not be able to use the brake pedal.

Plus the obvious addition to indicate to others that you are a banned driver subsequently caught.

I'll stop short of suggesting right foot amputation for the worst offenders.

tonymac · 27th July 2012, 09:07

I think some where the wires are crossed as if you look it up. Under uk law all driving ban's are a min of 12 months. The only time it can be adjusted if more than 18 months there is leeway for up to 4 months taken off. The only other way is a drink driving course which cost £175 and that will buy you a not so hefty insurance after your licence is back. I don't drink and drive u read things when bored also we do the course at my work.

Syx · 27th July 2012, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jpetrie

So I know a guy, he's about as stable as a 3 legged chair. Couple of years older than me at 24 and is currently on his third drink driving ban.

What you got against stools?

Kremmen · 27th July 2012, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Syx

What you got against stools?

In this case he's 'a leg short of a chair'

Civic_Outcast · 27th July 2012, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syx

What you got against stools?

They stink ?

See what I did there ?

jamie_H · 27th July 2012, 14:30

Drink driving should be caught once thats it, no more license. End.

boydy · 27th July 2012, 14:54

That's shocking! One of my pals from home got caught and was banned for a year. Then, was caught in his car (after drinking) but wasn't driving and he was banned for 5 years. Now he's just started driving again and his insurance is sky high....I hope he's learned his lesson now

Kremmen · 27th July 2012, 14:58

The problem is that these people ignore driving bans and the need for insurance and just carry on.

As pointed out, they just get a slap on the wrist.

They need a proper deterrent like swapping them out to a Citroen Saxo

deni.babe · 28th July 2012, 13:24

if under twice the limit its usually a 12-15month ban if its your first offence, if you re-offend within a ten year period it automatically a 3 year ban then you have a letter from dvla once your ban as expired saying if you wish to re-apply for your licence you must have a medical by a private doctor who the dvla use at your expense and its up to him after he as taken your blood and sent it off for testing whether you get your licence back do it again within 10 years yet again then 5 year ban and possibly jail sentence and a retest.

so i haven't got a clue how he got 15 months for second offence and 8 weeks for third never known it, and how he passed his medical.

Grayfox · 30th July 2012, 06:14

Third offense, did he spin a bonus or something.

This is your third strike, I can ban you for 24 months or would you like to spin the wheel for another sentence?

He must have spun 8 weeks.

FrankstaH · 1st August 2012, 14:29

Pretty abismal tbh.

I wouldn't dare drink drive.

A 3rd time offender surely has no remorse and should be banned for at least 3 years.

I know of someone who went to my old school who was involved in a police chase - he out ran 6 police cars and a police helicopter doing 185 mph on the M1. He then got out of the car and rang a friend to pick him up... as no one answered he got back in the car and drove home and got caught on the way back by a road block.

He only got banned for 18 months and served 2 weeks in prison.

He's back on the road in a few months actually... ha ha

dweezle · 2nd August 2012, 19:49

It's like when you see them on interceptors drink driving 100 + mph chases nearly running pedestrians over ramming others off the rd wrong way around the roundabouts then at the end they say £40 fine and 3 points

yet you can get worse for a little scuffle on a Saturday night

adsbeau · 2nd August 2012, 20:42

They should just have a no alcohol limit,

adsbeau · 2nd August 2012, 20:44

they should just get rid of the limit and make it dont drink and drive period.

gadgetman68 · 2nd August 2012, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jpetrie

So I know a guy, he's about as stable as a 3 legged chair. Couple of years older than me at 24 and is currently on his third drink driving ban.

First he did a 12 month ban, second he got 15 months and the third he got... 8 weeks.

That'll teach him

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonymac

I think some where the wires are crossed as if you look it up. Under uk law all driving ban's are a min of 12 months. The only time it can be adjusted if more than 18 months there is leeway for up to 4 months taken off. The only other way is a drink driving course which cost £175 and that will buy you a not so hefty insurance after your licence is back. I don't drink and drive u read things when bored also we do the course at my work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deni.babe

if under twice the limit its usually a 12-15month ban if its your first offence, if you re-offend within a ten year period it automatically a 3 year ban then you have a letter from dvla once your ban as expired saying if you wish to re-apply for your licence you must have a medical by a private doctor who the dvla use at your expense and its up to him after he as taken your blood and sent it off for testing whether you get your licence back do it again within 10 years yet again then 5 year ban and possibly jail sentence and a retest.

so i haven't got a clue how he got 15 months for second offence and 8 weeks for third never known it, and how he passed his medical.

hmmmm ...... does the OP has more info as it doesn't sound right to me either

27th July 2012, 02:40	#1 (permalink)
Jpetrie Banned Car: 2008 2.2 NHB Type S GT Join Date: 11th March 2011 Location: Southampton Posts: 1,746 Thanks given: 84 Thanked 242 Times in 186 Posts iTrader: (7)	And the UK justice system fails once more. So I know a guy, he's about as stable as a 3 legged chair. Couple of years older than me at 24 and is currently on his third drink driving ban. First he did a 12 month ban, second he got 15 months and the third he got... 8 weeks. That'll teach him

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Kremmen Super Moderator Car: MY13 1.8 EX Auto Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 6,909 Thanks given: 182 Thanked 238 Times in 213 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've always maintained that if your caught whilst banned you should be forced to wear a locked large right leg device that makes it impossible to drive.

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Kremmen Super Moderator Car: MY13 1.8 EX Auto Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 6,909 Thanks given: 182 Thanked 238 Times in 213 Posts iTrader: (0)	I was thinking along the lines of a sort of mini ankle 'stocks' thing that had a side piece of about 6" so your leg would not fit in the accelerator area. If you tried rotating it then you would not be able to use the brake pedal. Plus the obvious addition to indicate to others that you are a banned driver subsequently caught. I'll stop short of suggesting right foot amputation for the worst offenders.

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tonymac Supporter Car: 2009 milino red CTR GT+ Join Date: 18th March 2011 Location: BRISTOL UK Posts: 806 Thanks given: 119 Thanked 96 Times in 89 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think some where the wires are crossed as if you look it up. Under uk law all driving ban's are a min of 12 months. The only time it can be adjusted if more than 18 months there is leeway for up to 4 months taken off. The only other way is a drink driving course which cost £175 and that will buy you a not so hefty insurance after your licence is back. I don't drink and drive u read things when bored also we do the course at my work.

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jamie_H Supporter Car: 2009 CTR Nhb Join Date: 13th November 2011 Location: Bedford Posts: 353 Thanks given: 75 Thanked 57 Times in 45 Posts iTrader: (1)	Drink driving should be caught once thats it, no more license. End.

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boydy Car: 59 Type-S, Silver Join Date: 11th February 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 56 Thanks given: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (1)	That's shocking! One of my pals from home got caught and was banned for a year. Then, was caught in his car (after drinking) but wasn't driving and he was banned for 5 years. Now he's just started driving again and his insurance is sky high....I hope he's learned his lesson now

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Kremmen Super Moderator Car: MY13 1.8 EX Auto Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 6,909 Thanks given: 182 Thanked 238 Times in 213 Posts iTrader: (0)	The problem is that these people ignore driving bans and the need for insurance and just carry on. As pointed out, they just get a slap on the wrist. They need a proper deterrent like swapping them out to a Citroen Saxo

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deni.babe loads of grunt Car: 08 2.2 type s gt blsilverish Join Date: 7th February 2010 Location: tettenhall ,wolverhampton Posts: 2,125 Thanks given: 220 Thanked 338 Times in 312 Posts iTrader: (7)	if under twice the limit its usually a 12-15month ban if its your first offence, if you re-offend within a ten year period it automatically a 3 year ban then you have a letter from dvla once your ban as expired saying if you wish to re-apply for your licence you must have a medical by a private doctor who the dvla use at your expense and its up to him after he as taken your blood and sent it off for testing whether you get your licence back do it again within 10 years yet again then 5 year ban and possibly jail sentence and a retest. so i haven't got a clue how he got 15 months for second offence and 8 weeks for third never known it, and how he passed his medical.

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Grayfox Most Active Australian Car: 2010 Black Civic Si FK2 Join Date: 1st February 2012 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,987 Thanks given: 67 Thanked 274 Times in 259 Posts iTrader: (0)	Third offense, did he spin a bonus or something. This is your third strike, I can ban you for 24 months or would you like to spin the wheel for another sentence? He must have spun 8 weeks.

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FrankstaH Supporter Car: 58 Plate Milano CTR GT Join Date: 10th April 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 2,268 Thanks given: 33 Thanked 258 Times in 242 Posts iTrader: (10)	Pretty abismal tbh. I wouldn't dare drink drive. A 3rd time offender surely has no remorse and should be banned for at least 3 years. I know of someone who went to my old school who was involved in a police chase - he out ran 6 police cars and a police helicopter doing 185 mph on the M1. He then got out of the car and rang a friend to pick him up... as no one answered he got back in the car and drove home and got caught on the way back by a road block. He only got banned for 18 months and served 2 weeks in prison. He's back on the road in a few months actually... ha ha

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dweezle regrets his username Car: Championship White Join Date: 6th April 2012 Location: uk Posts: 2,575 Thanks given: 542 Thanked 369 Times in 343 Posts iTrader: (2)	It's like when you see them on interceptors drink driving 100 + mph chases nearly running pedestrians over ramming others off the rd wrong way around the roundabouts then at the end they say £40 fine and 3 points yet you can get worse for a little scuffle on a Saturday night

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adsbeau Twisted by the Dark side Car: 2006 2.2 sport, silver Join Date: 18th July 2010 Location: chorley, lancs Uk Posts: 1,113 Thanks given: 59 Thanked 138 Times in 126 Posts iTrader: (2)	They should just have a no alcohol limit,

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adsbeau Twisted by the Dark side Car: 2006 2.2 sport, silver Join Date: 18th July 2010 Location: chorley, lancs Uk Posts: 1,113 Thanks given: 59 Thanked 138 Times in 126 Posts iTrader: (2)	they should just get rid of the limit and make it dont drink and drive period.