Hamilton to Mercedes.

[Madcaddies]

Very sad to hear about Michael Schumacher been following that man for years in F1 and stuck with him as a true fan through the past few not so great seasons

I don't care about teams for me it has always been Schumi

Love or hate him I don't care...

[RickHondaR]

Originally Posted by RickHondaR

To be honest Lewis would have signed for Mclaren by now in my opinion if he was staying so my guess is he is on his way and to be fair I think its the right thing to do as he has not been the same driver he was 2007-2008 when Dennis was in charge and his dad managed him, I also feel looking at 2007-2008 and then 2009 onwards he made a big mistake in dropping his dad as a manager as lets be honest all Simon Fuller's XIX Management team care about is the money they can make and not Lewis unlike his dad.

Well I was right about signing for Mclaren but for me I think once Perez settles down Mclaren will have a more consistent calmer driver, yes he may lack a little of the raw pace of Lewis but then look at all the media trouble / track issues that have surrounded Lewis since his dad stop managing him.

I don't care what anyone says here this has go to effect his on track performance and I guess the results or lack of another WDC show this with the exception of 2009 when the Mclaren was certainly not up to it for sure and before people comment and say the 2010, 2011 and 2012 cars have not been good enough just remember a driver helps motivate the team and develop the car. While Lewis is having all his media dummy out of the pram problems and trashing the car on track this has a knock on effect back at the factory and in the team, what I feel for sure is over the last 3 years Lewis has seriously under preformed and it is such a shame to see him waste his natural talent.

I hate to say this but with Button's calm and reliable pace and even though he is not the fastest he has more than gave Lewis a run for his money and the calmness of Perez along with mexican sponsorship (because the mclaren is looking a little bare these days) this may be a win win situation that will hopefully bring a long awaited constructors championship f nothing else.

[RickHondaR]

Originally Posted by Madcaddies

Very sad to hear about Michael Schumacher been following that man for years in F1 and stuck with him as a true fan through the past few not so great seasons

I don't care about teams for me it has always been Schumi

Love or hate him I don't care...

Would love to see him do 1 last year back at Ferrari, I think even though he has made some school boy errors (his age is catching up with him maybe he needs to go to specsavers?) I think he has had the better of Nico for the last 12months even if the results dont show it. I also figure that if he was driving for Ferrari this year he would have bought more points home than Massa so what do they have to loose? Shumi back at Ferrari for one last year would generate massive PR and even though he has now past his best to give Alonso a good run I suspect he will keep him honest.

[Staffs Deltic]

Originally Posted by Madcaddies

Very sad to hear about Michael Schumacher been following that man for years in F1 and stuck with him as a true fan through the past few not so great seasons

I don't care about teams for me it has always been Schumi

Love or hate him I don't care...

I never forgave him for 1994. Never will.

[chattacks]

Despite all the criticism, if Lewis is un-happy with his place of work (Mclaren) I dont blame him for moving when he was offered a decent pay deal and more comercial freedom. As some one currently ABSOLUTELY hating his job right now, I wish I could leave too...

[ash_rage]

Originally Posted by bodgerx

Why? He took Alonso apart in his first season. Even if there was a 'preference' whatever that may mean, it was probably the best first season performance from any driver in the modern era. And against a multiple world champion.

Drivers are free to go wherever, whose to say Alonso would have stayed at McLaren even if he got his own way there?

ROFL took him apart?! I don't know where you get that from they finished on level points despite Mclaren giving Lewis better treatment over Alonso that year?

Lewis is half the driver Alonso is and he has never been in a situation to really prove otherwise.

Alonso has remained on top in cars that clearly do not and did not belong at the top. Alonso had to win his first championship on merit in an car that wasn't the best car that season. Even til this day Alonso out performs his car. Massa isn't struggling entirely cause of his own lack of skill, the car isn't helping.

Lewis has never had to compete in a car that wasnt competitive. He walked into one of the best seats in the business.

His one and only title was down to luck thanks to a "struggling" Toyota, Alonso had to win his titles against the most dominant force in modern f1. Schumacher and Ferrari.

I'm sure if Alonso had stayed at Mclaren he would have got a few more titles under his belt by now.

Yes Lewis is free to move where he wants. Thankfully out of Mclaren! his attitude stinks and doesn't help them, he seems to think he is something he is not.

Posting telemetry data on twitter, come on is he for real. The bad mood he shows up with to race weekends in is a joke. My girlfriend wahh wahh, my pay wahh wahh. He needs to get on with racing and stop boring us with his sob stories he is almost bad as Prost!

Anyway my guess is he will go Mercedes cry like a baby, throw his steering wheel out the car when Maldonado flies past him in a better car (hopefully crashing into him again) then at the end of the season jump ship to Red Bull.

Perez and Button FTW.

[Madcaddies]

Originally Posted by RickHondaR

Would love to see him do 1 last year back at Ferrari, I think even though he has made some school boy errors (his age is catching up with him maybe he needs to go to specsavers?) I think he has had the better of Nico for the last 12months even if the results dont show it. I also figure that if he was driving for Ferrari this year he would have bought more points home than Massa so what do they have to loose? Shumi back at Ferrari for one last year would generate massive PR and even though he has now past his best to give Alonso a good run I suspect he will keep him honest.

Couldn´t agree more

[stoney]

What Ash said

He always seems to have an excuse apart from himself, granted Singapore wasn't his fault. The last 2 seasons he seems to get on more like a premiership footballer, prancing about nightclubs with his popstar missus etc - saying that even Chris Brown had a drive in her last week .

JB personal life is just that, he keeps it too himself and doesn't let it detract from his job - yes he has his bad days but he doesn't over dramatize them admits when he messes up and looks forward to the next race.


A fair better attitude.

[RickHondaR]

Originally Posted by ash_rage

ROFL took him apart?! I don't know where you get that from they finished on level points despite Mclaren giving Lewis better treatment over Alonso that year?

Lewis is half the driver Alonso is and he has never been in a situation to really prove otherwise.

Alonso has remained on top in cars that clearly do not and did not belong at the top. Alonso had to win his first championship on merit in an car that wasn't the best car that season. Even til this day Alonso out performs his car. Massa isn't struggling entirely cause of his own lack of skill, the car isn't helping.

Lewis has never had to compete in a car that wasnt competitive. He walked into one of the best seats in the business.

His one and only title was down to luck thanks to a "struggling" Toyota, Alonso had to win his titles against the most dominant force in modern f1. Schumacher and Ferrari.

I'm sure if Alonso had stayed at Mclaren he would have got a few more titles under his belt by now.

Yes Lewis is free to move where he wants. Thankfully out of Mclaren! his attitude stinks and doesn't help them, he seems to think he is something he is not.

Posting telemetry data on twitter, come on is he for real. The bad mood he shows up with to race weekends in is a joke. My girlfriend wahh wahh, my pay wahh wahh. He needs to get on with racing and stop boring us with his sob stories he is almost bad as Prost!

Anyway my guess is he will go Mercedes cry like a baby, throw his steering wheel out the car when Maldonado flies past him in a better car (hopefully crashing into him again) then at the end of the season jump ship to Red Bull.

Perez and Button FTW.

Come on the 2009 mclaren was a dog and for alonso yes he had to win the 06 wdc but the 05 had little competion from ms as the bridgestone tyres could not do a race distance, yes alonso shows more class than lewis but dont forget alonso threw his toys out of the pram in 07 when ron would not make lewis play second fiddle to him and dont forget alonso was upto his eyes in spygate (he was in on all the info but was was not prosecuted because he testified against his team) and then there was singapore 09.

I agree that mclaren will be better of without lewis as he is very high maintance which is such a shame because he has so much talent but like i said earlier i think this has shown a lot, more since his father has not managed him and imo i dont see what his managment company can do better for him than his father because like i said before all they care about is the dollers lewis can earn for them not what lewis can acheive.

The best wdc we have had in the recent past are mika, shcumacher and jenson for sure all these drivers did a very good job and kept there noses clean and out of the press with i guess apart from ms with the 94 and 97 incidents but dont forget we would all most likely do the same with just a split second to make the choice as it is human nature to want to win at all costs

[Grayfox]

I wonder how many times he will now smash into alonso as alonso tries to overtake him.

[robbobaggins]

Shame he's going as I'm a big fan, I'll never forget his 1st win at silverstone the crowd noise was spine tingling brilliant drive but I feel it's time as he's turned into a diva the last season or too, don't know if Perez has already signed or not I'd like to see di resta in the mclaren

[Staffs Deltic]

Originally Posted by robbobaggins

Shame he's going as I'm a big fan, I'll never forget his 1st win at silverstone the crowd noise was spine tingling brilliant drive but I feel it's time as he's turned into a diva the last season or too, don't know if Perez has already signed or not I'd like to see di resta in the mclaren

Perez has signed on a longish term contract according to what I have read.

[robbobaggins]

Originally Posted by Staffs Deltic

Perez has signed on a longish term contract according to what I have read.

Just read it on f1 app, good signing non the less it's Checo time

[bodgerx]

Originally Posted by ash_rage

ROFL took him apart?! I don't know where you get that from they finished on level points despite Mclaren giving Lewis better treatment over Alonso that year?

Lewis is half the driver Alonso is and he has never been in a situation to really prove otherwise.

Alonso has remained on top in cars that clearly do not and did not belong at the top. Alonso had to win his first championship on merit in an car that wasn't the best car that season. Even til this day Alonso out performs his car. Massa isn't struggling entirely cause of his own lack of skill, the car isn't helping.

Lewis has never had to compete in a car that wasnt competitive. He walked into one of the best seats in the business.

His one and only title was down to luck thanks to a "struggling" Toyota, Alonso had to win his titles against the most dominant force in modern f1. Schumacher and Ferrari.

I'm sure if Alonso had stayed at Mclaren he would have got a few more titles under his belt by now.

Yes Lewis is free to move where he wants. Thankfully out of Mclaren! his attitude stinks and doesn't help them, he seems to think he is something he is not.

Posting telemetry data on twitter, come on is he for real. The bad mood he shows up with to race weekends in is a joke. My girlfriend wahh wahh, my pay wahh wahh. He needs to get on with racing and stop boring us with his sob stories he is almost bad as Prost!

Anyway my guess is he will go Mercedes cry like a baby, throw his steering wheel out the car when Maldonado flies past him in a better car (hopefully crashing into him again) then at the end of the season jump ship to Red Bull.

Perez and Button FTW.

Completely disagree. Alonso couldn't get HIS way in 2007. By mid season he was a beaten man. Despite the points finish at the very end, by China, it was Hamilton that had the best shot at the championship.

Despite walking into one of the best teams, this Hamilton's first year against a multiple world champ. It was an exceptional performance.

I don't get all whinging about Hamilton's attitude. It doesn't get anywhere near Mansell levels. Most of this came down to last year when he had a bad, frustrated, season.

[WilsonR]

Originally Posted by ash_rage

ROFL took him apart?! I don't know where you get that from they finished on level points despite Mclaren giving Lewis better treatment over Alonso that year?

Lewis is half the driver Alonso is and he has never been in a situation to really prove otherwise.

Alonso has remained on top in cars that clearly do not and did not belong at the top. Alonso had to win his first championship on merit in an car that wasn't the best car that season. Even til this day Alonso out performs his car. Massa isn't struggling entirely cause of his own lack of skill, the car isn't helping.

Lewis has never had to compete in a car that wasnt competitive. He walked into one of the best seats in the business.

His one and only title was down to luck thanks to a "struggling" Toyota, Alonso had to win his titles against the most dominant force in modern f1. Schumacher and Ferrari.

I'm sure if Alonso had stayed at Mclaren he would have got a few more titles under his belt by now.

Yes Lewis is free to move where he wants. Thankfully out of Mclaren! his attitude stinks and doesn't help them, he seems to think he is something he is not.

Posting telemetry data on twitter, come on is he for real. The bad mood he shows up with to race weekends in is a joke. My girlfriend wahh wahh, my pay wahh wahh. He needs to get on with racing and stop boring us with his sob stories he is almost bad as Prost!

Anyway my guess is he will go Mercedes cry like a baby, throw his steering wheel out the car when Maldonado flies past him in a better car (hopefully crashing into him again) then at the end of the season jump ship to Red Bull.

Perez and Button FTW.

To go head to head with a multiple world champion in the same car and come out on top in your first season as an F1 driver is one hell of an achievement. I think you are letting your hatred of him cloud your judgement.

Also I don't think he's ever had a dominant car, even when he won his title he did it in a worse car than the Ferrari. Vettel/JB and even FA had it pretty easy. Also now that he does have a car capable of winning his team have absolutely fked him around, if it wasn't for their incompetence he'd be winning the WDC by a comfortable margin this year.

I think that he's looking at this move in the longer term, hoping that Ross Brawn can make something happen similar to what he did with Schumi when he moved to Ferrari.. with one eye on the big rule changes in 2014.

[WilsonR]

Also I don't understand the whining about his "bad" attitude, and how people can not have respect for his desire to win

JB has a torrid time and goes out of contention for the title and he smiles like nothings happened.. grow some stones and tell people how it is

[ash_rage]

Well... thats me told.

I'm a Lewis Hamilton fan now. Hamilton FTW. LOL

[NH Dan]

Originally Posted by WilsonR

Also I don't understand the whining about his "bad" attitude, and how people can not have respect for his desire to win

JB has a torrid time and goes out of contention for the title and he smiles like nothings happened.. grow some stones and tell people how it is

I have the utmost respect for a professional sportsperson who has a huge desire to win. However, one that whinges, moans and bleats at every opportunity about how this wasn't his fault, that happened because the wind blew this way not that etc etc, loses all my respect.

Take David Haye, a good, solid boxer, promising and talented, maybe not the greatest but good all the same. Gets pummulled by Kiltschko (sp) then blames it on a broken toe = instant chump.

To me Hamilton is now in the same camp as Ashley Cole, lifes too hard, I dont earn what i'm worth, more more more.

Lets just see how good he is when he's in the equivalent of a Ford Escort at a touring car race, probably have almost as many excuses as Plato lol

[WilsonR]

Originally Posted by NH Dan

I have the utmost respect for a professional sportsperson who has a huge desire to win. However, one that whinges, moans and bleats at every opportunity about how this wasn't his fault, that happened because the wind blew this way not that etc etc, loses all my respect.

Take David Haye, a good, solid boxer, promising and talented, maybe not the greatest but good all the same. Gets pummulled by Kiltschko (sp) then blames it on a broken toe = instant chump.

To me Hamilton is now in the same camp as Ashley Cole, lifes too hard, I dont earn what i'm worth, more more more.

Lets just see how good he is when he's in the equivalent of a Ford Escort at a touring car race, probably have almost as many excuses as Plato lol

Comparing Mercedes to a ford escort in a touring car race, bit OTT but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in 2014 .

I would also like to say the "I don't earn what i'm worth" argument is, in my opinion, completely valid. Take Ronaldo at Real Madrid for instance, he gets paid the same amount as Kaka, who sits on the bench and does nothing, whereas Ronaldo is pretty much (along with Messi) the best player in the world, and carries Real Madrid with 60+ goals a season. I can fully understand why he's come out and said he's "sad". Forget the millions he earns, it's a respect thing.

Why should Lewis sit there earning half of FA.. he's proved he's just as good as him in the same car.

If you think about the same sort of thing in terms more relative to us it pisses people off everyday. You have people who sit there and do nothing and get paid the same amount as people who do a lot of work. But instead of having rival motoracing giants to offer us new contracts, we stick our CV on monster and look for a new job!

Just my opinion anyway boys

[FrankstaH]

Originally Posted by WilsonR

Comparing Mercedes to a ford escort in a touring car race, bit OTT but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in 2014 .

I would also like to say the "I don't earn what i'm worth" argument is, in my opinion, completely valid. Take Ronaldo at Real Madrid for instance, he gets paid the same amount as Kaka, who sits on the bench and does nothing, whereas Ronaldo is pretty much (along with Messi) the best player in the world, and carries Real Madrid with 60+ goals a season. I can fully understand why he's come out and said he's "sad". Forget the millions he earns, it's a respect thing.

Why should Lewis sit there earning half of FA.. he's proved he's just as good as him in the same car.

If you think about the same sort of thing in terms more relative to us it pisses people off everyday. You have people who sit there and do nothing and get paid the same amount as people who do a lot of work. But instead of having rival motoracing giants to offer us new contracts, we stick our CV on monster and look for a new job!

Just my opinion anyway boys

I agree with you wilzOOO.

I think Hamiltons a thoroughly entertaining sportman and he has a sheer desire to win which can not be faulted.

The only thing i can say is that i believe Alonso is THE best driver in the world... not by much... i mean Hamilton isn't far behind but he is a LOT younger than Alonso. Raw driving they're both the same, i just think Alonso handles pressure better, handles the car better when he needs to and generally shows more experience when he needs to hold people off etc