Does This Work????????????????????

jme1978 · 24th August 2006, 22:43

I've got my sceptics head on at the mo!!!

J

Subject: Have you locked your keys in the car? Does your car have remote keys?*

This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone:

If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call

someone at home on their cell phone from your cell phone.

Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person

at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on

their end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to drive your

keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away,

and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you

can unlock the doors (or the trunk).

Editor's Note: *It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked our car over a cell phone!"*

civicsport · 24th August 2006, 22:46

WHAT???? you having a laugh, that can`t work surely.

basegreen · 24th August 2006, 22:47

WoolyCiv · 24th August 2006, 23:02

Sounds like (

) a good one for April 1st

Pottsy · 24th August 2006, 23:15

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoax...il+Hoax&Page=1

Bungle · 25th August 2006, 19:02

I can see the logic and theory in that. Most remote blipper key things are ultrasonic, and in theory, the sound wave could be relayed by something like a phone. I doubt that a phone would pick up a frequency that high, as it has no need to. Likewise, the speaker on the other end probably couldn't output a higher frequency than 10 or 15khz.

Most hi-fi speakers have a maximum frequency response of 20khz, so a phone going higher is vey unlikely!

I am still quite tempted to try 'just in case'.

Big-Chris · 25th August 2006, 20:05

They had this on Braniac on Sky one last night - it (appeared to) work!

allan40alt · 25th August 2006, 20:45

Can't see how it could possibly work as there is no sound transmitted by the key, it's a signal. The phone only reproduces sound. Or have I missed something?

How could you re-send the signal whilst you are receiving?

I think WoolyCiv has it right!

Bungle · 25th August 2006, 20:48

The key does send sound. Ultra sound is sound at a higher frequency than we can hear. The theory does work, but in practice...

allan40alt · 25th August 2006, 21:05

..aah, but does it have a microphone to receive the signal or an aerial

I'm confused; I'm going to have a lie down

Bungle · 25th August 2006, 21:40

No, the key is just a transmitter. When you press the unlock button, it sends an ultra sonic signal that the car picks up. The phone idea just sends the signal from one phone, to another and the car should 'hear' it from the phone's ear piece. It's not a two-way process.

WoolyCiv · 25th August 2006, 22:24

I thought that most modern car security systems worked with a frequency hopping radio signal and not the old ultrasonic tye signal. The only ultrasonic type that I have used was on a citroen Bx and the dstance from the car was very limited. On my previous car (rover 75) it was a frequency hopping radio signal and it would work about 12 metres from the car normally and about 20 metres away whe you held the key to your head. This thing about holding the key to your head really did work, I used to make folk laugh when I did it. If as I think the Civic uses the radio signal type of security system, then the phone thing is an April 1st story.

Note: I have looked in the manual and it does not state how the system works.

allan40alt · 26th August 2006, 13:58

Yes, WoolyCiv, you're correct. There is a Radio Wireless Conformity Certificate in the handbook.

Bungle · 31st August 2006, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

I thought that most modern car security systems worked with a frequency hopping radio signal and not the old ultrasonic tye signal. The only ultrasonic type that I have used was on a citroen Bx and the dstance from the car was very limited. On my previous car (rover 75) it was a frequency hopping radio signal and it would work about 12 metres from the car normally and about 20 metres away whe you held the key to your head. This thing about holding the key to your head really did work, I used to make folk laugh when I did it. If as I think the Civic uses the radio signal type of security system, then the phone thing is an April 1st story.

Note: I have looked in the manual and it does not state how the system works.

About the 'head' thing. Did you first hold the key normally, at waiste height, then try with it pionting at your head? The extra distance could be down to the transmitter being higher up and having a better chance of getting to the target?

WoolyCiv · 31st August 2006, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bungle

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

I thought that most modern car security systems worked with a frequency hopping radio signal and not the old ultrasonic tye signal. The only ultrasonic type that I have used was on a citroen Bx and the dstance from the car was very limited. On my previous car (rover 75) it was a frequency hopping radio signal and it would work about 12 metres from the car normally and about 20 metres away whe you held the key to your head. This thing about holding the key to your head really did work, I used to make folk laugh when I did it. If as I think the Civic uses the radio signal type of security system, then the phone thing is an April 1st story.

Note: I have looked in the manual and it does not state how the system works.

About the 'head' thing. Did you first hold the key normally, at waiste height, then try with it pionting at your head? The extra distance could be down to the transmitter being higher up and having a better chance of getting to the target?

It was something I once saw on TopGear and I dont think it was the height that mattered, I prefer to think it was a bit of added brain matter

Telboy · 31st August 2006, 23:11

That is amazing, I have just tried it out on our Dagenham dustbin (awaiting the sleek machine) and it worked. Problem with the Focus it only came with one remote so if the remote is locked in the car not much help. Does the Civic come with two remotes?

WoolyCiv · 31st August 2006, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telboy

That is amazing, I have just tried it out on our Dagenham dustbin (awaiting the sleek machine) and it worked. Problem with the Focus it only came with one remote so if the remote is locked in the car not much help. Does the Civic come with two remotes?

Weird isn't it

Yes the civ comes with 2 keys both with the remote functions.

basegreen · 1st September 2006, 09:03

I use the head trick all the time, works a treat

24th August 2006, 22:43	#1 (permalink)
jme1978 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 29th April 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 211 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Does This Work???????????????????? I've got my sceptics head on at the mo!!! J Subject: Have you locked your keys in the car? Does your car have remote keys?* This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their cell phone from your cell phone. Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk). Editor's Note: It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked our car over a cell phone!"

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civicsport Mr. Foglights Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: Stockton-on-Tees Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WHAT???? you having a laugh, that can`t work surely.

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WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like ( ) a good one for April 1st

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can see the logic and theory in that. Most remote blipper key things are ultrasonic, and in theory, the sound wave could be relayed by something like a phone. I doubt that a phone would pick up a frequency that high, as it has no need to. Likewise, the speaker on the other end probably couldn't output a higher frequency than 10 or 15khz. Most hi-fi speakers have a maximum frequency response of 20khz, so a phone going higher is vey unlikely! I am still quite tempted to try 'just in case'.

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Big-Chris Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 31st July 2006 Location: Lincoln Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They had this on Braniac on Sky one last night - it (appeared to) work!

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allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,142 Thanks: 6 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Can't see how it could possibly work as there is no sound transmitted by the key, it's a signal. The phone only reproduces sound. Or have I missed something? How could you re-send the signal whilst you are receiving? I think WoolyCiv has it right!

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The key does send sound. Ultra sound is sound at a higher frequency than we can hear. The theory does work, but in practice...

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allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,142 Thanks: 6 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	..aah, but does it have a microphone to receive the signal or an aerial I'm confused; I'm going to have a lie down

25th August 2006, 21:40	#11 (permalink)
Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, the key is just a transmitter. When you press the unlock button, it sends an ultra sonic signal that the car picks up. The phone idea just sends the signal from one phone, to another and the car should 'hear' it from the phone's ear piece. It's not a two-way process.

25th August 2006, 22:24	#12 (permalink)
WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought that most modern car security systems worked with a frequency hopping radio signal and not the old ultrasonic tye signal. The only ultrasonic type that I have used was on a citroen Bx and the dstance from the car was very limited. On my previous car (rover 75) it was a frequency hopping radio signal and it would work about 12 metres from the car normally and about 20 metres away whe you held the key to your head. This thing about holding the key to your head really did work, I used to make folk laugh when I did it. If as I think the Civic uses the radio signal type of security system, then the phone thing is an April 1st story. Note: I have looked in the manual and it does not state how the system works.

26th August 2006, 13:58	#13 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,142 Thanks: 6 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Yes, WoolyCiv, you're correct. There is a Radio Wireless Conformity Certificate in the handbook.

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Telboy Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 29th August 2006 Location: Luton Posts: 113 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That is amazing, I have just tried it out on our Dagenham dustbin (awaiting the sleek machine) and it worked. Problem with the Focus it only came with one remote so if the remote is locked in the car not much help. Does the Civic come with two remotes?

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basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I use the head trick all the time, works a treat