Transmission Humming noise from clutch when cold

cnicolini · 30th July 2008, 13:21

Has anybody notice an occasional humming noise from their clutch when cold, and when just starting off? Once you drive around abit it clears up, and it only does it occasional. My neighbour has a new Peg 307 and that does it too, it appears as soon as you find the biting point and move. I thought it was the brakes seizing up, but now think its from the clutch? (I've only done 10,000 miles)

craggyislander · 30th July 2008, 22:45

yes mate mine does it too - current mileage 9.5k

cnicolini · 30th July 2008, 23:32

Does anyone know if the clutch on the CTR is hydraulic or just cable driven?

FWH · 2nd August 2008, 12:14

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Originally Posted by cnicolini

Does anyone know if the clutch on the CTR is hydraulic or just cable driven?

It would think it is hydraulic. Not 100% sure though.

Munro · 2nd August 2008, 12:29

Clutch is hydraulic . I also get the whirring noise from the clutch when cold. Glad you posted this as I was beginning to think it was a problem with my car. It seems to be normal.

cnicolini · 15th September 2008, 22:23

I spoke to the dealer about this noise, the clutch is hydraulic on the CTRs. They told me that they have never come across this with their CTRs. They asked me to keep an eye on it and if it gets worse then to book it in. On some days you just dont hear it, if it was the clutch then you'd think that it would do it all the time? May be it sometimes drys out? I'm not too bothered as I still have 2 year waranty remaining on the car.

S18TypeR · 23rd October 2008, 09:30

So guys, has anyone brought this up with Honda?
Mine has started doing this and I was sure it was my brake pads as I know they need doing...
Any update from you guys would be appreciated!
Would rather my clutch was silent or is that too much to ask from a decent car these days!?

CCC · 23rd October 2008, 09:44

I did speak to the Honda dealer about this when I got the car serviced, they told me that I had to leave it with them overnight. I have nt bothered as it does nt always do it, it seems to be worse when its damp and raining? After a couple of biting points it disappears. I just thought it was down to me sitting in traffic all day and having something dry out?

I did speak to mechanic (family member) and he thinks it could be the clutch bearings drying out, it only happens in 1st and not in reverse, which still does nt make sense as it should matter which way the bearings are spining?

I was going to leave it till it gets worse to get it looked at, I still have 2 more years Honda cover left.

I was reading the Type R foreum about this and some guy did take it to a dealer, they changed the chutch plate and a couple of days later it was doing it again!

cylon2007 · 23rd October 2008, 10:02

It's probably the release bearing, not unusual to get some noise from them. BTW I think all the Civic have a hydraulic clutch the diesel certainly does.

CCC · 23rd October 2008, 10:05

Yes the CTR also has a hydraulic clutch I asked the dealer this question, I'm not sure that a new clutch would fix this problem for good, it may reappear after a few months.

smokeR · 23rd October 2008, 10:22

Either thrust bearing or beacause of lightened flywheel which can warp slightly and thus causes these noises when cold. Had it on the EP3 too.

CCC · 23rd October 2008, 10:39

So is it worth getting it looked at, or will it just reappear later on again?

smokeR · 23rd October 2008, 10:47

they could replace the thrust bearing, but if its the flywheel it will happen again. Put your mind at rest and take it to the dealer and see what they say. Good Luck with it.

x Dr Vodka x · 18th November 2008, 14:52

Mine is doing this too when setting off in first, only every now and again so I tried loading the clutch by setting off in 3rd gear and it does it every time. Clutch and parts are a grey area when it comes to warrantee. Wear and tear is often used as an excuse for not covering them, seeing as I don’t trust dealers as far as I can shot put a planet, im going to ask a few questions now. By the way I have only done 5k

CCC · 18th November 2008, 15:37

I was reading up on this on a different website, and one dealer re-greased something on the clutch, not sure what, and it was nt covered as they did nt class a noise as a fault? Everything still works fine! The sound gets worse when its dump! It looks like that this is a common problem on Hondas! Another dealer said it was damp on the clutch plates???

I'm not going to bother with it now, if it gets worse then book it in! Some guy on Civic Type R Owners Website had a new clutch fitted and the noise was still there!

One dealer told a guy that it was: the spriggot bearing next to the flywheel that was making the noise

. nothing to serious they said and they are changing it for me when the part comes in as it is still under warrenty.They may replace the clutch replaced under warrently but that may not get rid of the noise.

Another guy said:
Dont reckon its a problem mate.
Loads of people on here have reported the same noise.
Mine started not too long after new (March 04). And I have done over 30K miles now with no problems.

Another guy:
had the clutch noise when the engine was cold. Told dealer that the forum thought that it was the clutch release bearing so they changed it. This morning was the first cold start since..and the noise is still there. Any other ideas? Same as everyone else, just the first few gear changes of the day, perfect after that.

This has been going on for years even on the 2004 CTRs.

stevenmcc · 8th February 2009, 21:07

i have the same noise,which does only happens when first pulling away when cold,however it goes away very quickly. its definately not the brakes & if it was a dry bearing it prob wouldn't go away. if you start on a hill & roll then put the car in gear & lift the clutch it doesn't happen. also if you start facing up hill you can ride the clutch & get the noise to stay for quite a few seconds.i think its just something to do with the clutch being cold & nothing serious.

CCC · 9th February 2009, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenmcc

i have the same noise,which does only happens when first pulling away when cold,however it goes away very quickly. its definately not the brakes & if it was a dry bearing it prob wouldn't go away. if you start on a hill & roll then put the car in gear & lift the clutch it doesn't happen. also if you start facing up hill you can ride the clutch & get the noise to stay for quite a few seconds.i think its just something to do with the clutch being cold & nothing serious.

I agree, somebody onthis site had a new clutch fitted and the noise reappeared after 6 months. Its not worth getting it changed as it looks like its a design fault!

Snert · 24th February 2009, 12:40

Ah, good, other people have this noise, it's not just me.

Symptoms as described, only when the car is cold and pulling away in 1st, gone after a few minutes. I guessed the clutch release bearing before coming on here and am possibly not too far out. Not seeing it as a major problem but will monitor it.

08 plate Type R with 6,000 miles

Snert

CCC · 24th February 2009, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snert

Ah, good, other people have this noise, it's not just me.

Symptoms as described, only when the car is cold and pulling away in 1st, gone after a few minutes. I guessed the clutch release bearing before coming on here and am possibly not too far out. Not seeing it as a major problem but will monitor it.

08 plate Type R with 6,000 miles

Snert

I see that Honda have still now resolved this! I think that this noise appeared when I had the same amount of mileage as you. I now have almost 18,000 miles and its still doing it. Its worse on some days and ok on others!

woody2k4 · 22nd March 2009, 22:08

Hi all i have just noticed this noise, like a whurring??? Is this a actual know problem, should i contact the dealer?

30th July 2008, 13:21	#1 (permalink)
cnicolini Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 587 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	Humming noise from clutch when cold Has anybody notice an occasional humming noise from their clutch when cold, and when just starting off? Once you drive around abit it clears up, and it only does it occasional. My neighbour has a new Peg 307 and that does it too, it appears as soon as you find the biting point and move. I thought it was the brakes seizing up, but now think its from the clutch? (I've only done 10,000 miles)

23rd October 2008, 09:44	#8 (permalink)
CCC Join Date: 10th October 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 506 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts iTrader: (0)	I did speak to the Honda dealer about this when I got the car serviced, they told me that I had to leave it with them overnight. I have nt bothered as it does nt always do it, it seems to be worse when its damp and raining? After a couple of biting points it disappears. I just thought it was down to me sitting in traffic all day and having something dry out? I did speak to mechanic (family member) and he thinks it could be the clutch bearings drying out, it only happens in 1st and not in reverse, which still does nt make sense as it should matter which way the bearings are spining? I was going to leave it till it gets worse to get it looked at, I still have 2 more years Honda cover left. I was reading the Type R foreum about this and some guy did take it to a dealer, they changed the chutch plate and a couple of days later it was doing it again! Last edited by CCC; 23rd October 2008 at 09:47.

8th February 2009, 21:07	#16 (permalink)
stevenmcc Supporter Car: # 39 Type R GT,Milano Red. Join Date: 15th July 2008 Location: central scotland Posts: 20 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	noisy clutch i have the same noise,which does only happens when first pulling away when cold,however it goes away very quickly. its definately not the brakes & if it was a dry bearing it prob wouldn't go away. if you start on a hill & roll then put the car in gear & lift the clutch it doesn't happen. also if you start facing up hill you can ride the clutch & get the noise to stay for quite a few seconds.i think its just something to do with the clutch being cold & nothing serious.

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Munro Supporter Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,706 Thanks: 50 Thanked 82 Times in 70 Posts iTrader: (0)	Clutch is hydraulic . I also get the whirring noise from the clutch when cold. Glad you posted this as I was beginning to think it was a problem with my car. It seems to be normal.

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cnicolini Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 587 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I spoke to the dealer about this noise, the clutch is hydraulic on the CTRs. They told me that they have never come across this with their CTRs. They asked me to keep an eye on it and if it gets worse then to book it in. On some days you just dont hear it, if it was the clutch then you'd think that it would do it all the time? May be it sometimes drys out? I'm not too bothered as I still have 2 year waranty remaining on the car.

23rd October 2008, 09:30	#7 (permalink)
S18TypeR Join Date: 14th September 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	So guys, has anyone brought this up with Honda? Mine has started doing this and I was sure it was my brake pads as I know they need doing... Any update from you guys would be appreciated! Would rather my clutch was silent or is that too much to ask from a decent car these days!?

23rd October 2008, 10:02	#9 (permalink)
cylon2007 Join Date: 14th April 2007 Location: South Manchester/North Cheshire Posts: 709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's probably the release bearing, not unusual to get some noise from them. BTW I think all the Civic have a hydraulic clutch the diesel certainly does.

23rd October 2008, 10:05	#10 (permalink)
CCC Join Date: 10th October 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 506 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes the CTR also has a hydraulic clutch I asked the dealer this question, I'm not sure that a new clutch would fix this problem for good, it may reappear after a few months.

23rd October 2008, 10:22	#11 (permalink)
smokeR Civic RGT Join Date: 7th August 2008 Location: UK, Norfolk Posts: 586 Thanks: 24 Thanked 23 Times in 23 Posts iTrader: (0)	Either thrust bearing or beacause of lightened flywheel which can warp slightly and thus causes these noises when cold. Had it on the EP3 too.

23rd October 2008, 10:39	#12 (permalink)
CCC Join Date: 10th October 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 506 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts iTrader: (0)	So is it worth getting it looked at, or will it just reappear later on again?

23rd October 2008, 10:47	#13 (permalink)
smokeR Civic RGT Join Date: 7th August 2008 Location: UK, Norfolk Posts: 586 Thanks: 24 Thanked 23 Times in 23 Posts iTrader: (0)	they could replace the thrust bearing, but if its the flywheel it will happen again. Put your mind at rest and take it to the dealer and see what they say. Good Luck with it.

18th November 2008, 14:52	#14 (permalink)
x Dr Vodka x Wigan Warriors Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Sunny Wigan Posts: 964 Thanks: 0 Thanked 30 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (1)	Mine is doing this too when setting off in first, only every now and again so I tried loading the clutch by setting off in 3rd gear and it does it every time. Clutch and parts are a grey area when it comes to warrantee. Wear and tear is often used as an excuse for not covering them, seeing as I don’t trust dealers as far as I can shot put a planet, im going to ask a few questions now. By the way I have only done 5k

18th November 2008, 15:37	#15 (permalink)
CCC Join Date: 10th October 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 506 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts iTrader: (0)	I was reading up on this on a different website, and one dealer re-greased something on the clutch, not sure what, and it was nt covered as they did nt class a noise as a fault? Everything still works fine! The sound gets worse when its dump! It looks like that this is a common problem on Hondas! Another dealer said it was damp on the clutch plates??? I'm not going to bother with it now, if it gets worse then book it in! Some guy on Civic Type R Owners Website had a new clutch fitted and the noise was still there! One dealer told a guy that it was: the spriggot bearing next to the flywheel that was making the noise . nothing to serious they said and they are changing it for me when the part comes in as it is still under warrenty.They may replace the clutch replaced under warrently but that may not get rid of the noise. Another guy said: Dont reckon its a problem mate. Loads of people on here have reported the same noise. Mine started not too long after new (March 04). And I have done over 30K miles now with no problems. Another guy: had the clutch noise when the engine was cold. Told dealer that the forum thought that it was the clutch release bearing so they changed it. This morning was the first cold start since..and the noise is still there. Any other ideas? Same as everyone else, just the first few gear changes of the day, perfect after that. This has been going on for years even on the 2004 CTRs.

24th February 2009, 12:40	#18 (permalink)
Snert Join Date: 29th January 2009 Location: Kirkcaldy Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ah, good, other people have this noise, it's not just me. Symptoms as described, only when the car is cold and pulling away in 1st, gone after a few minutes. I guessed the clutch release bearing before coming on here and am possibly not too far out. Not seeing it as a major problem but will monitor it. 08 plate Type R with 6,000 miles Snert

22nd March 2009, 22:08	#20 (permalink)
woody2k4 Supporter Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 264 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi all i have just noticed this noise, like a whurring??? Is this a actual know problem, should i contact the dealer?