Rear wiper Road Salt and No Rear Wiper!!

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by Variantealta

TTDegs...the difference is that in the first scenario, you see them and allow them to pass on the near side or make sure they have see you indicating and have stopped in a safe place.
In the second scenario you don't know they exsist they attempt to sneak down the near side unaware of your turning and then impact the vehicle as you turn across their path...

Simple as that really...

As an ex cyclist in London, the cyclists in the second scenario not only annoy car drivers but also law abiding cyclists. If they are coming flying down BEHIND you, not even along side and then cut round the left of you while indicating then perhaps they need removing from the gene pool for the good of humanity.

The only time you need to give way to a cyclist is if they are already alongside you when you indicate your manouvere, or they are in a separate defined cycle lane. The excellent mirrors on the Civic will be an advantage in this case. IMO cars like the Fiat Panda with poor mirrors are much more dangerous.

[GHGH]

I was thinking that .
Well, all the fuss worked! Has never been a problem!

[Variantealta]

When i started this thread i never expected such a huge response...amazing...really...now to think of something more contentious...

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by Variantealta

When i started this thread i never expected such a huge response...amazing...really...now to think of something more contentious...

The only suggestions I can think of are 'Petrol v Diesel' or 'I don't need a spare wheel'

[Variantealta]

I though of "what would i give up my Civic for" but the answers may be icky....

[dave525]

If I thought my car was dangerous to drive because i could not see out of the rear window i would be selling it tomorrow

[Variantealta]

Well it seems logical that if you cant see behind you when driving its dangerous...

[Kremmen]

Originally Posted by Variantealta

Well it seems logical that if you cant see behind you when driving its dangerous...

If you have no interior, door or wing mirrors then yes.

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Also helps to go slowly so the weight is there for a longer period

Gosh, do you think people will notice all the cyclists that have gone missing in Canterbury now???

Tom

Weren't there thousands of them last summer on that cycle race through Canterbury?

Maybe that's why they lost so many!

"They say it's not as bad as they say it is!"

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

Weren't there thousands of them last summer on that cycle race through Canterbury?

Maybe that's why they lost so many!

"They say it's not as bad as they say it is!"

Nah they were all high on drugs (allegedly) and must have had a wrong turn!!!

[Unknownsoldier]

I thought that might have been why I heard that scraping from my front bumper that day! Tin tacks made that day so much funnier .

Honestly I dislike cyclists here because they seem to think they have a right to be on the road (more so than we do, try playing chicken mate I dare yah'! ), they never give way, they seem to think magically they are bigger and faster than you are and they don't seem to bother what colour traffic lights are, why shouldn't they obey the same rules as us (I also think bikes should have a licence plate, like a car that shows in German fashion they have tax and insurance, they are a menace). Anyone get I hate bikes????? Oh and motorcyclists, not proper M/C like 1000cc Ducatti's etc. but 50cc oneswith youths riding them, had one trying to do the Upsala run through town yesterday, about 50mph in traffic!!!!!! I love ghostrider don't get me wrong but he's a 'professional', not a spotty oik' late for McDonalds! [Rant Over/]

Tom

[Variantealta]

true

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by alanwalne

Nah they were all high on drugs (allegedly) and must have had a wrong turn!!!

If they were on them drug things then maybe they had a bad turn!

"Teamwork,
A chance to blame someone else!"

[Variantealta]

I've got to say that as a keen cyclist, granted mostly off road, i didn't mean for this to turn into a cyclist bashing excersise. I'm just frustrated with my car rear screen!
Although tomorrow i am picking up my new 08 plate ES (Company Car)...so i must like something...

[FWH]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

So I have just one final question on the matter:
Varinteala - if you truly believe that this is such a dangerous situation, how do you sleep at night, knowing that you have sold such a potential death trap on wheels?

Originally Posted by Variantealta

I'm on commission!

Spoken like a true car salesman.

[Variantealta]

I sold my soul to the devil for dual climate control and a glass roof...

[Unknownsoldier]

Really, I sold mine for a stack of cash and my great looks. Think you got done mate

Tom

[GHGH]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Honestly I dislike cyclists here because they seem to think they have a right to be on the road (more so than we do, try playing chicken mate I dare yah'! ), they never give way, they seem to think magically they are bigger and faster than you are and they don't seem to bother what colour traffic lights are, why shouldn't they obey the same rules as us (I also think bikes should have a licence plate, like a car that shows in German fashion they have tax and insurance, they are a menace).
Tom

Here the police finally has started shaking the cyclists a little, treating them according to what they really are doing: Driving.

[Unknownsoldier]

They are and in many ways are far more dangerous than cars especially if you don't hear them coming on the pavement (they can seriously hurt people if the whack into them).

Tom

[Variantealta]

Too true...especially if the rider is fat!