Paint Stone chips? - Page 3

Vet_2010 · 17th April 2008, 19:46

The annoying thing is that the one benefit which this new paint does offer is to the environment, but it doesn't really stand if we all the have to go and get our cars resprayed or all the touch-up work done

Jack The Lad. · 17th April 2008, 20:05

The one thing that modern car paint does have in its favour, is that it can withstand U.V. light better and tends not to fade like the good old proper stuff.
Which means we a more likely to have a good match after a ding and it will stay that way. Advice given me, by a top crash repair guy, who started off on his own and in the 30 years that I have known him, has now built his Company into, --- Well, he is certainly a millionare.

Nemesis · 17th April 2008, 20:08

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Originally Posted by robbo51

Sorry. Youre wrong!!
My Renault Megane 2 was stone chip free after 25,000 miles
My Skoda had only a couple after 18,000 miles
My VW Bora had none after 34,000 miles
My mate's BMW 5 series (New shape) is stonechip free after 50,000 miles!
My CTS is covered in them and its only 10 months old
Simple fact .......HONDA PAINT IS CRAP!!

Peugeot 407 with 79k on the clock - Plastic Bonnet and only 1 chip!! I remember the huge stone bouncing towards me from the back of an 18 wheeler!!

I can't wait for my Civic with it's soft paint, rattles etc. etc.

Mind, the laugh is "The Drive of Your Life"!! I've got my own parking space at my local Peugeot Stealers... Roll on the Honda good times!!

angie4m · 18th April 2008, 08:30

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Originally Posted by Topcat

I believe that "soft" paint causes scratches not stone chips, hard thin paint causes stone chips.

Hard/soft? Whatever it may be. Are we thinking its harder on the bonnet than the rest of the car as believe me the paint scratches very easily on other pannels. ie the doors which funnily enough also have stone chips on them...hmmmmmmmm

angie4m · 18th April 2008, 08:33

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Originally Posted by Catbert

That's a good point, I shall borrow it assuming it's not copyright.

If thats what I said then you can borrow it by all means. I remember whe I had the Mini the guy from AutoGlass said that he daily got called to Mini's that needed new windscreens as they were almost vertical and when the stones hit it at about 70mph they managed to crack it. This then made me think about the bonnet on the Civic, cause when a stone bounces up off the road its going in the same direction of the bonnet.

illegalhunter · 18th April 2008, 08:37

Ive got about 30 on my bonnet alone

Topcat · 18th April 2008, 10:02

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Originally Posted by angie4m

Hard/soft? Whatever it may be. Are we thinking its harder on the bonnet than the rest of the car as believe me the paint scratches very easily on other pannels. ie the doors which funnily enough also have stone chips on them...hmmmmmmmm

I dont know about other people's civics but mine had barely any stone chips at all, at its worst it had big un-removable scratches on several panels (one was caused by removing bird muck) even the lighter scratches that looked like they would polish out wouldnt, I also had a couple of dents in the paint on the rear panels that looked like a stone had hit the car an just dented and squashed the paint rather than chipped it (A bit like when you touch nail varnish before it is fully dry). However after the re-sprays it had perfect paintwork and it stayed that way until I sold it which was 9 months.

Kremmen · 18th April 2008, 10:34

Anyone tried the new Halfords Chip & Dent service ?

Auto Express tried them and gave them a good write up but that was for a non metallic red. They just rubbed down and sprayed a damaged wheel arch.

I don't think small selective spraying works with metallics ?

I've picked up and touched up about half a dozen on the bonnet that really needs professional attention but I want recomendations first.

angie4m · 18th April 2008, 12:52

I do defo agree that the paint under the bonnet is too, too soft as when I was cleaning a small section came off onto my microfiber cloth! Now that part of the car hasn't been subject to stone chips etc.

Catbert · 22nd April 2008, 19:18

Update. Been for the 12,500 mile service. I mentioned the paint and was asked "do you drive on the motorway a lot?". Well yes the car has seen some motorway/trunk road mileage, but so what. I was told that this is "normal wear and tear". I am so cross that I am going to write to Honda UK.

Jack The Lad. · 22nd April 2008, 19:26

Me thinks that Honda will not even bother to reply to your letter Catbert.

Catbert · 23rd May 2008, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Jack The Lad.

Me thinks that Honda will not even bother to reply to your letter Catbert.

They didn't. However I emailed them and they said that they couldn't find it. OK I guess that's possible. Now they have an electronic copy and said that they will respond in 7 days.

Please all start your stop-watches

Topcat · 23rd May 2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Catbert

They didn't. However I emailed them and they said that they couldn't find it. OK I guess that's possible. Now they have an electronic copy and said that they will respond in 7 days.

Please all start your stop-watches

It probably is possible as they couldnt find my or my solicitor's recorded delivery letters either even though I had the proof that they were signed for - strange that !!

strawberry · 17th June 2008, 21:52

As a ex -painter for Aston martin (before they moved to Gaydon ) I can tell you catagorically that the frontal area is the problem with the civic , I`m now a paint rep and can tell you that any car with a large frontal area wil suffer the same problem the merc a-class is another example ,next time you`re at the supermarket take a walk past an a -class and you`ll see what I mean . The only way round it is to have the bonnet (i`d probally do the front wings as well - but not the bumper as it is already has a plastic additive added)resprayed before you get any stone chips in it and get the paint shop to use an elastic additive that they would for plastic parts .The paint will be soft and stone resistant but will eventually dry out and if /when you do get a stone chip you it will hopefully not penetrate deeper than the original (same colour )paint . Clear as mud really isnt it guys.

FWH · 18th June 2008, 05:43

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Originally Posted by strawberry

As a ex -painter for Aston martin (before they moved to Gaydon ) I can tell you catagorically that the frontal area is the problem with the civic , I`m now a paint rep and can tell you that any car with a large frontal area wil suffer the same problem the merc a-class is another example ,next time you`re at the supermarket take a walk past an a -class and you`ll see what I mean . The only way round it is to have the bonnet (i`d probally do the front wings as well - but not the bumper as it is already has a plastic additive added)resprayed before you get any stone chips in it and get the paint shop to use an elastic additive that they would for plastic parts .The paint will be soft and stone resistant but will eventually dry out and if /when you do get a stone chip you it will hopefully not penetrate deeper than the original (same colour )paint . Clear as mud really isnt it guys.

The A-class bit is very true.

An A-class was one of my options before buying the Civic.
Have a look at one year old second hand A-classes in a Mercedes Benz show room.
They are full of touch up paint.

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17th April 2008, 19:46	#41 (permalink)
Vet_2010 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 19th December 2007 Location: Northern Ireland / Glasgow Posts: 309 Thanks: 8 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	The annoying thing is that the one benefit which this new paint does offer is to the environment, but it doesn't really stand if we all the have to go and get our cars resprayed or all the touch-up work done

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 1,434 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	The one thing that modern car paint does have in its favour, is that it can withstand U.V. light better and tends not to fade like the good old proper stuff. Which means we a more likely to have a good match after a ding and it will stay that way. Advice given me, by a top crash repair guy, who started off on his own and in the 30 years that I have known him, has now built his Company into, --- Well, he is certainly a millionare.

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illegalhunter Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: In the woods armed to the teeth Posts: 2,114 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Ive got about 30 on my bonnet alone

18th April 2008, 10:34	#48 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Anyone tried the new Halfords Chip & Dent service ? Auto Express tried them and gave them a good write up but that was for a non metallic red. They just rubbed down and sprayed a damaged wheel arch. I don't think small selective spraying works with metallics ? I've picked up and touched up about half a dozen on the bonnet that really needs professional attention but I want recomendations first.

18th April 2008, 12:52	#49 (permalink)
angie4m Why Do I bother? Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts	I do defo agree that the paint under the bonnet is too, too soft as when I was cleaning a small section came off onto my microfiber cloth! Now that part of the car hasn't been subject to stone chips etc.

22nd April 2008, 19:18	#50 (permalink)
Catbert Valve Cap Join Date: 20th March 2008 Location: UK Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Update. Been for the 12,500 mile service. I mentioned the paint and was asked "do you drive on the motorway a lot?". Well yes the car has seen some motorway/trunk road mileage, but so what. I was told that this is "normal wear and tear". I am so cross that I am going to write to Honda UK.

22nd April 2008, 19:26	#51 (permalink)
Jack The Lad. Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 1,434 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Me thinks that Honda will not even bother to reply to your letter Catbert.

17th June 2008, 21:52	#54 (permalink)
strawberry Valve Cap Join Date: 6th May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 44 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	As a ex -painter for Aston martin (before they moved to Gaydon ) I can tell you catagorically that the frontal area is the problem with the civic , I`m now a paint rep and can tell you that any car with a large frontal area wil suffer the same problem the merc a-class is another example ,next time you`re at the supermarket take a walk past an a -class and you`ll see what I mean . The only way round it is to have the bonnet (i`d probally do the front wings as well - but not the bumper as it is already has a plastic additive added)resprayed before you get any stone chips in it and get the paint shop to use an elastic additive that they would for plastic parts .The paint will be soft and stone resistant but will eventually dry out and if /when you do get a stone chip you it will hopefully not penetrate deeper than the original (same colour )paint . Clear as mud really isnt it guys.