Damage AAAHH!! Hit and run after 2 days ownership!

[illegalhunter]

If there son borrowed the car then he has no insurance. If his parents let him drive it uninsured there are in the sh it.

[Unknownsoldier]

Definately, they are stuffed either way, either they are at fault for permitting a motor vehicle to be driven unlawfully, or their sin is in the s*it for TWOC'ing it.

Tom

[copland]

Thanks for the advice everyone I have got hold of a name and address via the police so am now deciding what to do next - first I need to know if it's his or his parents then I'll seek further advice re compensation. I like the oxy-acetylene torch idea LOL (only kidding but nice thought).

[rmh999]

Originally Posted by copland

Unbelievable the police had a young girl take a statement that was so brief it neglected to say the guy got out of the vehical and inspected the damage so it just says he drove off without realising he had hit anything and they will not check it out with the witness as the first statement stands so let him off. So my advice is if you hit another car just drive away and say you did not know you had hit anything I certainly will should I accidentally do so! Waste of time and tax payers money having a police force that cant be bothered to act on information and check out a fact with a witness!!! I'm fuming!!!

Register a complaint with the Police Complaints Commission, that`s clearly not doing the job properly.....

[cnicolini]

I would push the Police and get this guy charged with hit and run, if they won't then go to the top. The law states that the person who hits you must leave their name and number, even if they tell you its Mickey mouse. If not, then they can be charged with hit and run. The Police cant be bothered with all the paper work, but I'd push it higher, its not on. Why should they get away with it???

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by cnicolini

I would push the Police and get this guy charged with hit and run, if they won't then go to the top. The law states that the person who hits you must leave their name and number, even if they tell you its Mickey mouse. If not, then they can be charged with hit and run. The Police cant be bothered with all the paper work, but I'd push it higher, its not on. Why should they get away with it???

I concur with the above, ACPO would also be a port of call to register displeasure with the service, they charge us for in the first place.

Tom

[streakybird]

The part that irritates me the most is that god forbid.. if anyone got seriously injured or died... THEN the police would be doing something abut it!!! It just seems that if s**t comes out of the situation then and only then the police will do there job.
Its very very lucky that there were witnessess and you came out of it alive and well... now because of that, the job is made easier for them... why oh why are they so slow at doing their job even correctly for that matter!

I agree, make a formal complaint and good luck, hope you get some justice, if not the least a payout!!!

[Zimma]

I have some experience of Police failings having been a witness in a similar case - Walking through one of the local towns quite late at night I saw a lady stagger into a X5 and proceed to reverse into the car behind her - She then pushed back a little further and got a bit stuck - I was with a group of friends at the time and we all took pictures/video on the mobiles I then walked casually up to the window of the car, knocked and told her she'd just reversed into the car behind causing some damage and that I was going to call the police - At which point, she floored it and dragging the bumper from the car behind, slammed into the car in front of her before racing off, sparks flying, up the road!

I duly called the police, having an excellent description of the lady, the car reg and video evidence! The gentleman that owned the Audi that had been damaged was very grateful and sent me a lovely letter of thanks for collecting the evidence and calling the police attached to £40 of beer funds!

I spoke to the gentleman again about two months down the line and the police had dropped the case because the ladies lawyers were claiming she felt threatened by my knocking on the window and that had made her reverse into the car and bomb off - So the police hadn't even gone around to her house after the event to do a breath test or anything! Even though they'd seen the damage on the car BEFORE I knocked on the window they still didn't do anything! I'm not sure if the guy followed it through in the courts but he must have been absoloutely gutted..

So another lesson about hit and runs there - Even if you're drunk! Just say you felt threatened then evidence doesn't seem to matter at all!

(Apologies for length!!!)
(Glad that OP now has civic sorted and hopes 4x4 animal gets just commupance!)

[streakybird]

Originally Posted by Zimma

I have some experience of Police failings having been a witness in a similar case - Walking through one of the local towns quite late at night I saw a lady stagger into a X5 and proceed to reverse into the car behind her - She then pushed back a little further and got a bit stuck - I was with a group of friends at the time and we all took pictures/video on the mobiles I then walked casually up to the window of the car, knocked and told her she'd just reversed into the car behind causing some damage and that I was going to call the police - At which point, she floored it and dragging the bumper from the car behind, slammed into the car in front of her before racing off, sparks flying, up the road!

I duly called the police, having an excellent description of the lady, the car reg and video evidence! The gentleman that owned the Audi that had been damaged was very grateful and sent me a lovely letter of thanks for collecting the evidence and calling the police attached to £40 of beer funds!

I spoke to the gentleman again about two months down the line and the police had dropped the case because the ladies lawyers were claiming she felt threatened by my knocking on the window and that had made her reverse into the car and bomb off - So the police hadn't even gone around to her house after the event to do a breath test or anything! Even though they'd seen the damage on the car BEFORE I knocked on the window they still didn't do anything! I'm not sure if the guy followed it through in the courts but he must have been absoloutely gutted..

So another lesson about hit and runs there - Even if you're drunk! Just say you felt threatened then evidence doesn't seem to matter at all!

(Apologies for length!!!)
(Glad that OP now has civic sorted and hopes 4x4 animal gets just commupance!)

makes me wonder that whatever anyone can do illegally can always be justified...

[Unknownsoldier]

Pretty much, I mean... just get a goooood lawyer or get 'lucky'. Guy who attacked me did, never even got a visit from the cops, because after my statement they felt it could have been either of us that were at fault (never mind the fact he followed me, attacked my car, attempted to kick my window in, threatened to kill me then followed me again and then caused me to hit another car!!!!!! Sure sounds liek I was tototally at fault there, dumbasses, don't know why we bother with the police anymore, I know I don't........).

The police are just a waste of money and air, sadly enough..... all they are concerned with is doing as little work as possible...........Sorry to any cops reading this, but it is how I feel, I'm now left scared to go back to where the incident took place alone and I have to suffer being paranoid.....great fricking safe society we live in....
Tom

[Zimma]

Originally Posted by streakybird

makes me wonder that whatever anyone can do illegally can always be justified...

Too true..

Still wouldn't stop me from reporting as a witness again though as I would hope that others would step forward if it was my car that got damaged..

[Zimma]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Pretty much, I mean... just get a goooood lawyer or get 'lucky'. Guy who attacked me did, never even got a visit from the cops, because after my statement they felt it could have been either of us that were at fault (never mind the fact he followed me, attacked my car, attempted to kick my window in, threatened to kill me then followed me again and then caused me to hit another car!!!!!! Sure sounds liek I was tototally at fault there, dumbasses, don't know why we bother with the police anymore, I know I don't........).

The police are just a waste of money and air, sadly enough..... all they are concerned with is doing as little work as possible...........Sorry to any cops reading this, but it is how I feel, I'm now left scared to go back to where the incident took place alone and I have to suffer being paranoid.....great fricking safe society we live in.... IF I see him again I'm gonna just run him over. NO JOKE.

Tom

Sounds horrendous!! I can't defend the police as I've been left frustrated by a lack of police action in the past when a group of under 10's decided to break some of my windows - caught on CCTV - But couldn't prosecute becaue they were under 10 and didn't understand the impact of their actions??!?! but on a lighter note - They do make a good cup of tea!

[streakybird]

its all about the paperwork!!!!!!

a small case (well in comparison to a murder i mean) they just simply cant be bothered with having to go through with it because of the paperwork that they have to do afterwards...

Hey... but there really good at pulling people over and fining them for having low tread on a single tyre, and giving them 3 points on your licence... but attending to an accident and following it through... nah!!!!

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by streakybird

its all about the paperwork!!!!!!

a small case (well in comparison to a murder i mean) they just simply cant be bothered with having to go through with it because of the paperwork that they have to do afterwards...

Hey... but there really good at pulling people over and fining them for having low tread on a single tyre, and giving them 3 points on your licence... but attending to an accident and following it through... nah!!!!

I agree, and even if this isn't the case, it is the perceived problem and should be addressed accordingly.

Tom

[Topcat]

It makes you wonder why anyone one of bothers to pay insurance, we may as well all drive around of our own free will doing what we like

Anyway CL, quite a long time ago (at least 15 years or so) I had a VW Golf, one day I was driving down a small layby next to some shops when a car being driven by a car with a young driver gang of mates in the back started driving quite fast towards me, I just knew he would hit me and I couldnt pull over as there were parked cars either side, as suspected he hit me and did quite a lot of damage, he wound down his window as he an shouted back "im just pulling over further up" of course I knew he wasnt and quicly scribbled down his number as he sped off !!

I drove straight to the local police station (I had no witnesses) gave them his vehicle number etc showed them the damage and they said they would pay him a visit to see if his car had damage, a few days later they went anyway he did have some matching damage, they gave me his name and address and told me all they could do was caution him for failing to stop after an accident and to take it up with the insurance company!!!!

I had legal protection on my insurance and we started proceedings against the driver, he claimed I hit him an drove off, we pursued the matter until a Court date was set and suddenly he backed down an settled out of Court.
So it is worth going the legal route.

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by LNT

Just because you SAY he reversed into you, if he says that you drove into him, then the case doesn't go to court. That's nothing to do with the cops, that the Crown Prosecution Service for you. It's not a case of not believing you, the cops or CPS have to be independent themselves, and if they weren't there, they have to take what both sets of people say at face value. The days of "Let the court decide" doesn't really happen nowadays as the CPS need a virtual certain guilty plea or verdict to take it to court.

This is incorrect, in 2007 I was hit by a van he immediately told his insurance company I hit him, I insisted that it was the other way around and it went back an forth for months, my insurance company wanted me to settle 50/50 and there was no way I would do this when he had been in the wrong, I insisted it went to Court, yet again within a couple of weeks the guy backed down and admitted full liability.

I think the threat of Court action usually brings the driver in the wrong to their senses.

[Zimma]

Why does the law always seem to favour those that flaunt it???

Why should we have to push and push, go through the stress and strain of taking things to court and be out of pocket - which could all be avoided with a bit of honesty!

Ah well. At least it keep life interesting!

hehe!

Anyway - Have a little joke - *apologies to any epileptics reading this..

Q: What do you call a double-jointed epileptic?
A: A Transformer.

[streakybird]

[quote=Zimma;200710]Why does the law always seem to favour those that flaunt it???

Why should we have to push and push, go through the stress and strain of taking things to court and be out of pocket - which could all be avoided with a bit of honesty!

Ah well. At least it keep life interesting!

hehe!

Anyway - Have a little joke - *apologies to any epileptics reading this..

Q: What do you call a double-jointed epileptic?
A: A Transformer.



i wouldnt normally laugh but it was rather funny!!!

[amidamaru]

Sorry mate about that...the guys with 4x4 are a really street danger everywhere...

I hope eveything will be the same asap for your beauty