Suspension Droning/Roaring Noise & Refuelling

Glepor · 10th April 2008, 12:25

Hi all.
Please go easy on me - I'm a newbie both to Civic ownership and the forum (which is great by the way).
Purchased a 2005 CTDi Sport with 26.5k privately 2 days ago and have a couple of questions:
1. There is a roaring/droning noise from the rear of the vehicle between around 30-55mph (no, it's not the wife or kids!). I'm not mechanically gifted but could it be a wheel bearing perhaps?
2. Refilled for the first time today and found it impossible to avoid the fuel kicking back and cutting the flow from the pump, however I angled the nozzle. Does anyone have the same problem and a solution?
I have taken the time to search these two issues on the forum with no luck, so sorry if it's old ground.
Cheers

sambuca2907 · 10th April 2008, 13:48

Hey Glepor - 1st of all welcome - good choice - that's under average mileage for a 3 year old car - well found!

Your problems... not sure about the 1st - the 2nd one - was this only at one garage? Could have just been a rubbish pump!

Someone here will know about the 1st problem.

Glepor · 10th April 2008, 13:52

Yes, I'm rather chuffed with myself!

Got less than expected for my Audi A4 Avant but made a killing on my Civic.
Only one garage so far, the reason I mentioned though is that I used the same garage for my last car & never had the problem. Also the last owner of my Civic said she had the same problem.

Jeroen1000 · 10th April 2008, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glepor

Hi all.
k privately 2 days ago and have a couple of questions:
1. There is a roaring/droning noise from the rear of the vehicle between around 30-55mph (no, it's not the wife or kids!). I'm not mechanically gifted but could it be a wheel bearing perhaps?
2. Refilled for the first time today and found it impossible to avoid the fuel kicking back and cutting the flow from the pump, however I angled the nozzle.
Cheers

This was actually my previous car but I recognise the sound/description. It never happend on my CTDI, but on our focus.

Have the allignment/suspension checked, and the wheel balance. The tyres on our car were very much worn on the inside, having little wear on the outside (I believe this is called uneaven wear). Due to the fact this was on the inside it was hard to see. The problem was caused by a certain rod or something which was worn/bend

.

Oh yes, the higher the speed, the louder the droning (more wind blew past the rear tyres, strengthening the sound)

2 reminds me of our '96 civic. Putting the nozzle too deep caused cutting because the pump was too powerful for the car to 'swallow' it. Never had this problem with the CTDI except on one occurrence: I tanked with the nozzle for lorries (which, obviously, is bigger)

Glepor · 19th April 2008, 18:38

So I finally found out what the droning noise from the back of my car was. Took it to have the rear wheels balanced this morning, thinking that's what it might be. Guy didn't even need to take the wheels off to diagnose the problem. Both rear tyres are "stepped" or "feathered", on the inside inch or so. Apparently, this means that they are wearing in a sort of undulating pattern which accounts for the vibration when on the move. I asked if this was indicative of a mechanical fault somewhere and he said it was more likely to be because of crap tyres. Went to another place for a 2nd opinion and he confirmed the feathering. He said that on a car with 40k miles plus he might think that the shockers were to blame, but at 27k thought it unlikely. So now I have a dilemma. Do I take it to a dealer (it's still under warranty) and ask them to check for an underlying cause? If they don't find anything, will I get charged for the time they spend investigating? If they do find a mechanical reason, where do I stand re compensation for 2 replacement tyres? If it is just the tyres, is it worth taking it up with the manufacturer? There is still loads of tread on both, so it's a real stinger to have to buy 2 replacements, especially if the same thing might happen again. Finally, if I stick with the tyres and put up with the noise until they need replacing due to low tread, is it likely to damage anything else?

10th April 2008, 12:25	#1 (permalink)
Glepor Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 9th April 2008 Location: Lincoln, England Posts: 143 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Droning/Roaring Noise & Refuelling Hi all. Please go easy on me - I'm a newbie both to Civic ownership and the forum (which is great by the way). Purchased a 2005 CTDi Sport with 26.5k privately 2 days ago and have a couple of questions: 1. There is a roaring/droning noise from the rear of the vehicle between around 30-55mph (no, it's not the wife or kids!). I'm not mechanically gifted but could it be a wheel bearing perhaps? 2. Refilled for the first time today and found it impossible to avoid the fuel kicking back and cutting the flow from the pump, however I angled the nozzle. Does anyone have the same problem and a solution? I have taken the time to search these two issues on the forum with no luck, so sorry if it's old ground. Cheers

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sambuca2907 S29 AWS Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 17th September 2007 Location: SW London Posts: 416 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hey Glepor - 1st of all welcome - good choice - that's under average mileage for a 3 year old car - well found! Your problems... not sure about the 1st - the 2nd one - was this only at one garage? Could have just been a rubbish pump! Someone here will know about the 1st problem.

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Glepor Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 9th April 2008 Location: Lincoln, England Posts: 143 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Yes, I'm rather chuffed with myself! Got less than expected for my Audi A4 Avant but made a killing on my Civic. Only one garage so far, the reason I mentioned though is that I used the same garage for my last car & never had the problem. Also the last owner of my Civic said she had the same problem.

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Glepor Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 9th April 2008 Location: Lincoln, England Posts: 143 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	So I finally found out what the droning noise from the back of my car was. Took it to have the rear wheels balanced this morning, thinking that's what it might be. Guy didn't even need to take the wheels off to diagnose the problem. Both rear tyres are "stepped" or "feathered", on the inside inch or so. Apparently, this means that they are wearing in a sort of undulating pattern which accounts for the vibration when on the move. I asked if this was indicative of a mechanical fault somewhere and he said it was more likely to be because of crap tyres. Went to another place for a 2nd opinion and he confirmed the feathering. He said that on a car with 40k miles plus he might think that the shockers were to blame, but at 27k thought it unlikely. So now I have a dilemma. Do I take it to a dealer (it's still under warranty) and ask them to check for an underlying cause? If they don't find anything, will I get charged for the time they spend investigating? If they do find a mechanical reason, where do I stand re compensation for 2 replacement tyres? If it is just the tyres, is it worth taking it up with the manufacturer? There is still loads of tread on both, so it's a real stinger to have to buy 2 replacements, especially if the same thing might happen again. Finally, if I stick with the tyres and put up with the noise until they need replacing due to low tread, is it likely to damage anything else?