Suspension URGENT: Defect on Civic Safety Critical Part

[Dave25]

It's past the deadline and surprise surprise no post I Think FMEA must live in another time zone or maybe another planet

[robbo51]

Originally Posted by Dave25

It's past the deadline and surprise surprise no post I Think FMEA must live in another time zone or maybe another planet

It part of the game

[Topcat]

I think everyone should stop posting and then if he ever comes up with an explanation fine if not the thread will be forgotten.

[mrh339]

What a shock another self imposed deadline passes and still many people have not worked out that this FMEA clown is full of it to the brim.

[Vet_2010]

Is there really much point in continuing this charade?
There clearly isn't a morsel of professionalism about this character, it's bad enough not meeting deadlines but when they're your own deadlines it just becomes farcical!
I've long passed the point of caring, even if he does produce something how much integrity can it now really hold?
This is my last post on the matter!

[robbo51]

Originally Posted by Topcat

I think everyone should stop posting and then if he ever comes up with an explanation fine if not the thread will be forgotten.

I agree!!
Whoops .......a post

[Dimplyred]

Originally Posted by robbo51

I agree!!
Whoops .......a post

Well stop it then.

[FMEA]

Dear Civinfo Members

Please find attached my document for forum members - apologies for the various delays.

This will be my last ever post on Civinfo, so good luck to you all and I look forward to seeing your comments on my document and the media coverage of this matter over the coming weeks.

FMEA

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by FMEA

Dear Civinfo Members

Please find attached my document for forum members - apologies for the various delays.

This will be my last ever post on Civinfo, so good luck to you all and I look forward to seeing your comments on my document and the media coverage of this matter over the coming weeks.

FMEA

if i was one of my university lecturers i would have picked up on your poor referencing in that report ... tut tut
good read and i will wait for the media coverage

[AnnaBella]

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

if i was one of my university lecturers i would have picked up on your poor referencing in that report ... tut tut
good read and i will wait for the media coverage

Just have to wait and see now!!!

[koxy333]

juicy

[mrh339]

Wow, simply full of contadictions.

[Pottsy]

FMEA,

You are a strange chap.

That was a very long and detailed description of the various demands and escalations (and so on) that you have made on a number of organisations, who it appears are all getting quite tired of your behaviour.

I see that there are some commercial issues that will probably never be resolved, but ignoring them (if you can) it seems to boil down to simple mechanical stuff:

• The thread was not supplied in accordance with the purchase order, but then after tests made by a third party were found to be satisfactory for the design, a concession was granted.
• There is a standard for the bolts, but it is not mandatory.
• Despite your best efforts to the contrary, VOSA feel that the concession granted was acceptable.
• Not a single wheel has failed.

There's only one person who thinks the tests were flawed, there's only one person who thinks that recommended should be mandatory, there's only one person who continues to demand and threaten - and it's you. Everyone else seems to be quite satisfied.

To any non-engineer - if you design something, your designs may show that to be just strong enough to survive the worst case it needs to be 3" thick. But you want to add some extra on, just to be sure. So you say 4.5" thick. But you can't buy 4.5" somethings, so it has to be 5". When you find out that your supplier has been supplying 4.9" thick somethings - you just don't worry about it. FMEA is questioning whether or not Honda even have designs - but then again I suppose it's quite conceivable that Honda have never designed anything on the car....

I think VOSA sum it up quite well:

...from Jeffery Sweeting which stated; "In the absence of any evidence to suggest that there is a safety issue with the spindles, and that the Honda tests have identified no reasons why the Spindles should not continue to be used, there is simply no evidence to suggest that VOSA/DFT [Department of Transport] should compel Honda to take any action".

As a side note - the comments I made about designs were my own, and although they appear to be specific they were meant to be a general description aimed at a non-engineer (Topcat) explaining how the NCR / Recalc / Concession system normally works.

And finally, you said:

As forum members will be aware, I requested Pottsy to answer my question of who at Honda gave him the information as contained in his post titled "Honda Official Statement"; with his response being "In answer to your question, I'm afraid that my communications with senior folk at Honda will remain confidential.". I'm confident that after he reads this document he'll want to keep the names of the "senior folk" at Honda very confidential, however he may prove me wrong?

This, to me, discloses your personality. I'm not revealing who I spoke to - not because it matters in the slightest, but because I am not going to join the long list of people that you like to demand and threaten.

Furthermore, I'm not going to tell you what I had to eat tonight. So there.

FMEA - tip for the future - please learn the difference between affected and effected, it's really difficult to read when you use the wrong one.

[Unknownsoldier]

I must admit I'm a non-engineering type, however I agree totally with pottsy's point that you don't put something just strong enough on a car, or in any engineering structure you put something on that will withstand the worst case scenario, then add a bit. However I am still plowing through the pages of documentation, which as others have noted appear to be rather contradictory in places. I also agree, please use the footnote tool, so that we can reference your sources more easily.

Tom

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

I must admit I'm a non-engineering type, however I agree totally with pottsy's point that you don't put something just strong enough on a car, or in any engineering structure you put something on that will withstand the worst case scenario, then add a bit. However I am still plowing through the pages of documentation, which as others have noted appear to be rather contradictory in places. I also agree, please use the footnote tool, so that we can reference your sources more easily.

Tom

In construction on any structure, a factor of safety is ALWAYS included, making the structure even safer than what you think it would need to take at temporary maximum load due to unforseen circumstances.
and im guessing this is transferred to many engineering divisions as you said
good point by Pottsy

[Bob H]

As I summed up the other day, out to cause mischief via propagander...

Now bolted back under under the rock he came from...


Bob...

[Unknownsoldier]

I agree, when hanging a shelf you don't think oh that'll just about hold it, you make sure it is sturdy. Same principle I would guess goes with planes and cars, the amount of stress placed upon individual parts is weighed up and then manufactured with the inherent safety element built in.

Tom

Bob, interesting you mention propaganda, it does follow several of the main principles of propaganda ergo (these are the general 8 points of propaganda, following the Welch theory):

1. Use of Stereotypes
2. Substitution of Names
3. Selection
4. Lying
5. Repetition
6. Assertion
7. Pinpointing the Enemy
8. Appeal of Authority

The only two not used are the highlighted ones, however simply having these does not always qualify as propaganda, surely it is more sedition??

Tom (Know-it-all about propaganda )

[NH Dan]

Originally Posted by FMEA

Dear Civinfo Members

Please find attached my document for forum members - apologies for the various delays.

1 This will be my last ever post on Civinfo, so good luck to you all and I look forward to seeing your comments on my document and the media coverage of this matter over the coming weeks.

FMEA

1 The only thing you posted that I enjoyed reading.

2 Oh yes, I Highly doubt this too.

[dave525]

Now I am intrigued - Pottsy what did you have for tea

[Unknownsoldier]

Probably crisps, and I bet they were Plane, boom boom.....

Tom