Fuel Fuel Filler Cap - Page 28

jayt43 · 10th September 2007, 16:31

I think they were replacing whole units for a time, but even then there were problems. So I think the clip mod was brought in the replace the attempted foam/whole unit fixes.

If you haven't had the clip done yet, it should be carried out automatically during the vehicle's first service.

So I don't think the dealer was trying to deceive you. At one point, the situation was so fluid, that it was pretty much a different story each day for what dealers/Honda were doing to sort out the problem.

Thankfully, they now seem to have gotten it right.

apemonkeyman · 10th September 2007, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattlittle

...but that they had changed the 'whole unit' and that the new cars didn't need a mod any more.

Gospel truth or total rubbish?

Ask him if he'll let you snap his arms if your cap gets stuck... if he says no then ask him to fit the spring clip.

kenroc11 · 10th September 2007, 16:38

New modiifed clip, fitted beside the cable inside the flap resolves this issue, only takes seconds to fit it.
Dealers are aware how to fix, the foam was not successful after much use.

mattlittle · 11th September 2007, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenroc11

New modiifed clip, fitted beside the cable inside the flap resolves this issue, only takes seconds to fit it.
Dealers are aware how to fix, the foam was not successful after much use.

Thanks - I have to take it back to the garage to get them to look at the suspension banging on the driver's side, so I'll try to get it done then.

Esscon · 5th November 2007, 15:21

Had my car in the dealership today to have the fuel filler cap release problem fixed. However when I got home and checked - it did not work still. Fuming I rang the dealership up and they asked me to bring it back straight away which I did as they are only about a mile away. I arrived and handed over the keys - they drove it around the back to the workshop and after about 5 minutes the engineer comes around to the showroom to tell me there is no problem - it opens every time for him. Turns out I use the automatic door lock and unlock feature and when you switch the engine off all the doors unlock - EXCEPT FOR THE FUEL FILLER CAP - DOH - Maybe this has been the problem with the fuel filler cap all along. The trick is to press the unlock button on the key before you pull the filler release lever.
Does everyone with the filler release problem use the auto door lock/unlock?

GerryJ · 7th November 2007, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esscon

Had my car in the dealership today to have the fuel filler cap release problem fixed. However when I got home and checked - it did not work still. Fuming I rang the dealership up and they asked me to bring it back straight away which I did as they are only about a mile away. I arrived and handed over the keys - they drove it around the back to the workshop and after about 5 minutes the engineer comes around to the showroom to tell me there is no problem - it opens every time for him. Turns out I use the automatic door lock and unlock feature and when you switch the engine off all the doors unlock - EXCEPT FOR THE FUEL FILLER CAP - DOH - Maybe this has been the problem with the fuel filler cap all along. The trick is to press the unlock button on the key before you pull the filler release lever.
Does everyone with the filler release problem use the auto door lock/unlock?

As far as I am aware the fuel filler release system is mechanical i.e. you pull the lever, and not linked to the automatic door lock/unlock.

Korkut Varol · 7th November 2007, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by GerryJ

As far as I am aware the fuel filler release system is mechanical i.e. you pull the lever, and not linked to the automatic door lock/unlock.

I think so too...

PWOOD · 20th November 2007, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaRob

I have just had my dealer mod fitted the way it should have been (se photo earlier in the post).

Whilst in the showroom, i opened the flap on the 07 civic that was on display - it has the same mod but fitted at the factory, hence why 07 civic drivers don't have this issue.

R.

You reckon

My 07 did and was fixed months ago. Yesterday it did not spring open but I managed to prise it open. Honda are in for a shock come next years JD Power survey.

robbo51 · 28th November 2007, 19:19

Guy in front of me at the filling station tonight could not get his 56 Reg ES filler cap open.
I helped him..
He was shocked to learn that it was a known issue and wondered why it had not been recalled!!!

Topcat · 28th November 2007, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

He was shocked to learn that it was a known issue and wondered why it had not been recalled!!!

Cos........ they are too busy with all the other recalls

Ancient Nerd · 28th November 2007, 21:18

Hi TC,

I assume from your list that you don't have an EX, because then you could add the dodgy satnav routing, unusable POIs, and terrible TMC reception.

Good luck with the suspension fix. I'm due a new pair of shock absorbers and boot struts as soon as mine gets fixed after a VW van found it couldn't stop as quickly as the Civic.

Cheers,
AN

brown85 · 16th December 2007, 18:14

My 06 SE is going in on Friday to have it sorted out, it took me forever to get the thing open the other day, good job the petrol station wasn't busy!

Topcat · 16th December 2007, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

Hi TC,

Good luck with the suspension fix. I'm due a new pair of shock absorbers and boot struts as soon as mine gets fixed after a VW van found it couldn't stop as quickly as the Civic.

Cheers,
AN

Hi AN

Have you had the shocks and struts done yet?

Mine has to go back in Tuesday

brown85 · 16th December 2007, 18:29

Mine's going in to have those done at the same time, I'm leaving it with the dealer all weekend as I won't need the car, so no excuses to not have it sorted lol!

They want to replace the windscreen seal too.

cylon2007 · 20th January 2008, 17:05

The filler cap on mine has always behaved itself until a couple of weeks ago. I have now had about 3 occasions when it won't open at the first attempt. Obviously this wasn't modded during the 12500 service.

Anyway today I was in the garage sorting out the track bike and found a couple of small springs

got the car key and this is the result

works a treat, cap springs open with gusto now

, the spring is just the right dai the fit snuggly onto the little rubber stop.

Jobo · 21st January 2008, 20:02

My March 06 SE has been okay up until now. Couldn't get it to open on Saturday so phoned the dealer who couldn't understand why it hadn't been recalled earlier. It goes in on Wednesday to be fixed.

KPNUT · 15th June 2008, 20:20

Anyone had theirs fixed and then find after a year or so it stops working again?
I can only go to the filling station with my son in the car at the moment as he has to pull the lever ad I get my finger nail on the cap to try and flick it open. It was supposedly fixed by the dealer 18 months ago and has been fine until the last few weeks.
Am working my nuts off and don't have the time to take it to the dealer right now - hoping they don't try and charge me for the work!

Pottsy · 15th June 2008, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by KPNUT

Anyone had theirs fixed and then find after a year or so it stops working again?

Is yours fitted correctly? Like the 3rd photo in the wiki: Fuel filler cap fails to open - Civinfo Wiki

adeharding · 16th June 2008, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by KPNUT

Anyone had theirs fixed and then find after a year or so it stops working again?
I can only go to the filling station with my son in the car at the moment as he has to pull the lever ad I get my finger nail on the cap to try and flick it open. It was supposedly fixed by the dealer 18 months ago and has been fine until the last few weeks.
Am working my nuts off and don't have the time to take it to the dealer right now - hoping they don't try and charge me for the work!

Same here went to fuel up had mine done bout 18mths ago, just stopped working, on my own so just drove on 30miles in tank, just enough get to Honda will get it sorted when in for hand brake, windscreen seal (again). Think it was a sign to tell me not to fork out for expensive petrol

5th November 2007, 15:21	#545 (permalink)
Esscon Valve Cap Join Date: 29th September 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	auto lock/unlock and fuel filler cap release. Had my car in the dealership today to have the fuel filler cap release problem fixed. However when I got home and checked - it did not work still. Fuming I rang the dealership up and they asked me to bring it back straight away which I did as they are only about a mile away. I arrived and handed over the keys - they drove it around the back to the workshop and after about 5 minutes the engineer comes around to the showroom to tell me there is no problem - it opens every time for him. Turns out I use the automatic door lock and unlock feature and when you switch the engine off all the doors unlock - EXCEPT FOR THE FUEL FILLER CAP - DOH - Maybe this has been the problem with the fuel filler cap all along. The trick is to press the unlock button on the key before you pull the filler release lever. Does everyone with the filler release problem use the auto door lock/unlock?

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10th September 2007, 16:31	#541 (permalink)
jayt43 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 509 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think they were replacing whole units for a time, but even then there were problems. So I think the clip mod was brought in the replace the attempted foam/whole unit fixes. If you haven't had the clip done yet, it should be carried out automatically during the vehicle's first service. So I don't think the dealer was trying to deceive you. At one point, the situation was so fluid, that it was pretty much a different story each day for what dealers/Honda were doing to sort out the problem. Thankfully, they now seem to have gotten it right.

10th September 2007, 16:38	#543 (permalink)
kenroc11 Valve Cap Join Date: 4th July 2007 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New modiifed clip, fitted beside the cable inside the flap resolves this issue, only takes seconds to fit it. Dealers are aware how to fix, the foam was not successful after much use.

28th November 2007, 19:19	#549 (permalink)
robbo51 Type S GT Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 2,833 Thanks: 39 Thanked 26 Times in 24 Posts	Guy in front of me at the filling station tonight could not get his 56 Reg ES filler cap open. I helped him.. He was shocked to learn that it was a known issue and wondered why it had not been recalled!!!

28th November 2007, 21:18	#551 (permalink)
Ancient Nerd Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi TC, I assume from your list that you don't have an EX, because then you could add the dodgy satnav routing, unusable POIs, and terrible TMC reception. Good luck with the suspension fix. I'm due a new pair of shock absorbers and boot struts as soon as mine gets fixed after a VW van found it couldn't stop as quickly as the Civic. Cheers, AN

16th December 2007, 18:14	#552 (permalink)
brown85 Valve Cap Join Date: 16th November 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My 06 SE is going in on Friday to have it sorted out, it took me forever to get the thing open the other day, good job the petrol station wasn't busy!

16th December 2007, 18:29	#554 (permalink)
brown85 Valve Cap Join Date: 16th November 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mine's going in to have those done at the same time, I'm leaving it with the dealer all weekend as I won't need the car, so no excuses to not have it sorted lol! They want to replace the windscreen seal too.

20th January 2008, 17:05	#555 (permalink)
cylon2007 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th April 2007 Location: South Manchester/North Cheshire Posts: 450 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The filler cap on mine has always behaved itself until a couple of weeks ago. I have now had about 3 occasions when it won't open at the first attempt. Obviously this wasn't modded during the 12500 service. Anyway today I was in the garage sorting out the track bike and found a couple of small springs got the car key and this is the result works a treat, cap springs open with gusto now , the spring is just the right dai the fit snuggly onto the little rubber stop.

21st January 2008, 20:02	#556 (permalink)
Jobo Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 683 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	My March 06 SE has been okay up until now. Couldn't get it to open on Saturday so phoned the dealer who couldn't understand why it hadn't been recalled earlier. It goes in on Wednesday to be fixed.

15th June 2008, 20:20	#557 (permalink)
KPNUT Valve Cap Join Date: 3rd January 2008 Location: Shropshire, UK Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anyone had theirs fixed and then find after a year or so it stops working again? I can only go to the filling station with my son in the car at the moment as he has to pull the lever ad I get my finger nail on the cap to try and flick it open. It was supposedly fixed by the dealer 18 months ago and has been fine until the last few weeks. Am working my nuts off and don't have the time to take it to the dealer right now - hoping they don't try and charge me for the work!