Fuel: Fuel Filler Cap - Page 4

pcr · 31st October 2006, 18:56

Dealer replaced fuel cap today. Looks the same as scol78's photo but tether is still in place and no foam pad.

elfa7 · 31st October 2006, 19:02

But does it work ?. Thats one of the jobs mine is having done. No date fixed yet.

pcr · 31st October 2006, 20:37

elfa7,
Just have to wait and see. It does, however, spring outwards far more than the old one, and also is aligned centrally.

WoolyCiv · 31st October 2006, 21:36

I'm a little confused with regards to some of the post about the filler cap and the retaining strap. On my car the retaining strap is attached to the filler cap by a rotating collar and when I close the flap the collar rotates clockwise with the strap in the upper portion of the recess. Some of the post suggest ensuring that the strap is in a certain position but nothing I do can influence where it lies.

Does every ones fuel flap and filler cap look like the above?

Fedorov · 31st October 2006, 21:57

Hehe, just went out with my camera to check, mine is the same as yours, the problem I saw at the pumps last week is that the right end (looking at your photos) of the retaining strap is attached to a part that ROTATES around the screw cap, so yours is currently in 10 and 12 o'clock positions on your photos...

What I've seen happen is depending on what position that part is in can affect where the loop of that strap can go. Sometimes the loop of that strap can end up lying down the right-side of your screwcap so when the main cover tries to open, the loop of the strap gets *snagged* on the right-side of the screw cap and stops the cover opening properly if at all.

Hope that explains my understanding of it

WoolyCiv · 31st October 2006, 22:22

I wonder if the length of the strap varies from car to car. It would only take a few extra mil to allow it to snag.

Fedorov · 31st October 2006, 23:03

Everyone... go out to your civics right now with a torch and a tape measure - good point, some may be shorter than others

TTDegs · 1st November 2006, 00:49

wooly - mine looks identical to that, except I seem to be missing the sticker

but yes, sometimes the lead seems to twist round with the cap as I put it back in.

trouble is that it takes so long between fill ups and sticks so infrequently that I can't recall if I did anything different the time before it stuck

Although mine did stick tonight - scary with the DIS showing 6 miles left...

elfa7 · 1st November 2006, 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcr

elfa7,
Just have to wait and see. It does, however, spring outwards far more than the old one, and also is aligned centrally.

Glad to hear it. Mine is aligned ok, theres just a dead feel when I pull the release lever.
I hope its repaired, before I need any more diesel !.

WoolyCiv · 1st November 2006, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedorov

Everyone... go out to your civics right now with a torch and a tape measure - good point, some may be shorter than others

Well been and done it mine is 100mm long (Should put a little

in here )

Tomthumb · 1st November 2006, 22:15

Just joined this club, mine wont open anymore have to pull the lever about 20 times before it springs out a little tiny bit.

sarahjo · 1st November 2006, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomthumb

Just joined this club, mine wont open anymore have to pull the lever about 20 times before it springs out a little tiny bit.

Yep me too...pigging frustrating and u look at right numpty at the petrol station going round the car half a dozen times ** it opens

TTDegs · 2nd November 2006, 00:26

it would be handy if you could see it in the side mirror

the one on my TT was sprung loaded, so when released (electronic button, but same basic idea), it opened to 90 degrees.

easy to spot in the mirror, and it made a nice solid sounding clunk.

cap was made of metal though, not plastic

Copycat · 2nd November 2006, 06:46

Not so much a problem for us with LHD cars. Still bl**dy annoying when it doesn't open. Mine seems to be getting worse.

n_earnshaw · 2nd November 2006, 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarahjo

Yep me too...pigging frustrating and u look at right numpty at the petrol station going round the car half a dozen times ** it opens

I know that feeling. Add to that a policeman at the next pump filling up his patrol car......started wondering what he was thinking. Finally opened on my 5th return trip to the lever, just as the policeman finished filling up

jayt43 · 2nd November 2006, 08:31

One of the (supposed) benefits of having a new car is added reliability. Seems strange then, that all of Honda's engineering prowess is let down by many Civic owners being worried about whether the fuel flap opens or not!

Personally, I don't let my tank go below 1/4 now, just in case the filler cap fails to open. And that's crazy really.

Surely, such concerns normally come with having an old banger and wondering if you'll actually reach your intended destination? Not with a brand spanking new Civic!!

No doubt, in a few years time, the used car sections on What Car, Parkers etc. will have "sticking fuel filler cap release" as the No. 1 point on what to look for when buying a second-hand example.

So far it's only stuck once and that was literally right after the handover by my dealer (I had to fill up straight away as it had less than 5 litres in the tank). And, as it's full service at petrol stations here, the attendants had a good laugh at my expense when I couldn't open the damn thing

It was traumatic I tell you!!

Fedorov · 2nd November 2006, 13:34

I've been informed today that when they had mine in on Monday they fitted the piece of foam to it...

Shaz · 2nd November 2006, 14:49

Mine's going back for the second time for this on Saturday.

Foam fix first... shall see what they do this time. I'm going for more foam myself.

elfa7 · 2nd November 2006, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedorov

I've been informed today that when they had mine in on Monday they fitted the piece of foam to it...

Technology eh ? --- we put a man on the moon, but we can't have a proper functioning petrol flap !

daiashthomas · 3rd November 2006, 18:04

had mine changed and it does look like the new type, and is still not working. going back to the dealer 1st thing in the morning!! well cheesed off!!

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WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Confused I'm a little confused with regards to some of the post about the filler cap and the retaining strap. On my car the retaining strap is attached to the filler cap by a rotating collar and when I close the flap the collar rotates clockwise with the strap in the upper portion of the recess. Some of the post suggest ensuring that the strap is in a certain position but nothing I do can influence where it lies. Does every ones fuel flap and filler cap look like the above?

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31st October 2006, 18:56	#61 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 829 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dealer replaced fuel cap today. Looks the same as scol78's photo but tether is still in place and no foam pad.

31st October 2006, 19:02	#62 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	But does it work ?. Thats one of the jobs mine is having done. No date fixed yet.

31st October 2006, 20:37	#63 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 829 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	elfa7, Just have to wait and see. It does, however, spring outwards far more than the old one, and also is aligned centrally.

31st October 2006, 21:57	#65 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hehe, just went out with my camera to check, mine is the same as yours, the problem I saw at the pumps last week is that the right end (looking at your photos) of the retaining strap is attached to a part that ROTATES around the screw cap, so yours is currently in 10 and 12 o'clock positions on your photos... What I've seen happen is depending on what position that part is in can affect where the loop of that strap can go. Sometimes the loop of that strap can end up lying down the right-side of your screwcap so when the main cover tries to open, the loop of the strap gets snagged on the right-side of the screw cap and stops the cover opening properly if at all. Hope that explains my understanding of it

31st October 2006, 22:22	#66 (permalink)
WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I wonder if the length of the strap varies from car to car. It would only take a few extra mil to allow it to snag.

31st October 2006, 23:03	#67 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Everyone... go out to your civics right now with a torch and a tape measure - good point, some may be shorter than others

1st November 2006, 00:49	#68 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wooly - mine looks identical to that, except I seem to be missing the sticker but yes, sometimes the lead seems to twist round with the cap as I put it back in. trouble is that it takes so long between fill ups and sticks so infrequently that I can't recall if I did anything different the time before it stuck Although mine did stick tonight - scary with the DIS showing 6 miles left...

1st November 2006, 22:15	#71 (permalink)
Tomthumb Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Top of Surrey Posts: 177 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just joined this club, mine wont open anymore have to pull the lever about 20 times before it springs out a little tiny bit.

2nd November 2006, 00:26	#73 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it would be handy if you could see it in the side mirror the one on my TT was sprung loaded, so when released (electronic button, but same basic idea), it opened to 90 degrees. easy to spot in the mirror, and it made a nice solid sounding clunk. cap was made of metal though, not plastic

2nd November 2006, 06:46	#74 (permalink)
Copycat Galaxy class starship Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not so much a problem for us with LHD cars. Still bl**dy annoying when it doesn't open. Mine seems to be getting worse.

2nd November 2006, 08:31	#76 (permalink)
jayt43 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 509 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One of the (supposed) benefits of having a new car is added reliability. Seems strange then, that all of Honda's engineering prowess is let down by many Civic owners being worried about whether the fuel flap opens or not! Personally, I don't let my tank go below 1/4 now, just in case the filler cap fails to open. And that's crazy really. Surely, such concerns normally come with having an old banger and wondering if you'll actually reach your intended destination? Not with a brand spanking new Civic!! No doubt, in a few years time, the used car sections on What Car, Parkers etc. will have "sticking fuel filler cap release" as the No. 1 point on what to look for when buying a second-hand example. So far it's only stuck once and that was literally right after the handover by my dealer (I had to fill up straight away as it had less than 5 litres in the tank). And, as it's full service at petrol stations here, the attendants had a good laugh at my expense when I couldn't open the damn thing It was traumatic I tell you!!

2nd November 2006, 13:34	#77 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've been informed today that when they had mine in on Monday they fitted the piece of foam to it...

2nd November 2006, 14:49	#78 (permalink)
Shaz Wheelnut Join Date: 17th September 2006 Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mine's going back for the second time for this on Saturday. Foam fix first... shall see what they do this time. I'm going for more foam myself.

3rd November 2006, 18:04	#80 (permalink)
daiashthomas Wheelnut Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Nr. Swansea Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	had mine changed and it does look like the new type, and is still not working. going back to the dealer 1st thing in the morning!! well cheesed off!!