Fuel Fuel Filler Cap - Page 9

Pottsy · 12th December 2006, 16:43

I borrowed a brand new 1.4 the other day and it took 8 trips back and forth before I got it open. Odd thing is my relatively old car (March build) has never suffered. But it has loads and loads of grease everywhere - wonder if that's the magic formula?

Tony Fendall · 12th December 2006, 17:02

I think its time for a mod of the mod,mod.
I have never heard of a long Bowden cable installation without adjustment at one end.
Even change of temperature will cause some change in length and possible malfunction.
I wonder if the designer of the fuel filler cap system still works for Honda; I have my doubts.
Tony

john1509 · 12th December 2006, 18:15

my car goes in again tommorow to get the petrol cap fixed again had it done not so long ago. so tommorow im going to stand my ground and tell them to fit a new cap with a bit of luck

basegreen · 12th December 2006, 18:38

Just a joke really. Mines come back with no fix and promise of a new cap. Which means going in again and probably driving that bloody Honda Jazz again. Does it not like wind!

Least me rattle's gone.

MC Hammer · 12th December 2006, 18:43

The flap just isn't springy enough, the cable works fine and just locks the flap due it not springing open when released. Luckily being a diesel driver I don't fill up all that often so whilst it annoys me I get over it, til the next time when it opens.
I have thought about making a small block to hold the lever open whilst I walk round to the flap.

Gweneira · 12th December 2006, 19:09

Just had the filler cap mod. Now waiting for it to fail though the dealers have promised a re fit the cap if the mod fails......... to be fair they sounded as frustrated as anyone with the filler cap failures!

Fedorov · 14th December 2006, 20:15

I didn't quite get away with giving them the courtesy car back after 4 days with less petrol in that it started so I offered to pop round the corner in it while I waited for them to finish cleaning mine and would you believe it, couldn't get the damn filler cap open, my final 4th attempt it opened otherwise I'd have given it back with no fuel back in

IWANTACIVIC · 15th December 2006, 05:57

Has anyone have problems tryed pulling the handle relly gentley when the flap falls to open mine failled angain the other day a i thought ill try that idea of here and i got it to open 4 out of 4 time with gentle pull and only once out of 4 with normal pull so full marks to person who come out with it, and i have a duster on stand by so it dont annoy me

try these two tips and you will have less hassle at fill up time and less hassle going back to dealer for flat foam fix.

geoff · 15th December 2006, 06:11

Mine went in recently and was offered the foam mod i just refused quoted this site and all the failures so got a new cap
i just can't understand what honda is playing at it is much better to do the job once even if it costs more
Sorry first moan of the day

IWANTACIVIC · 15th December 2006, 06:22

is there a pics of the diffence from old to new cap on here ?
is the new cap fault free ?

geoff · 15th December 2006, 06:28

It looks the same but when you shut it it is different there is a loud click as it shuts and it works fine so far

IWANTACIVIC · 15th December 2006, 07:09

cool mite try get 1

elfa7 · 15th December 2006, 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWANTACIVIC

Has anyone have problems tryed pulling the handle relly gentley when the flap falls to open mine failled angain the other day a i thought ill try that idea of here and i got it to open 4 out of 4 time with gentle pull and only once out of 4 with normal pull so full marks to person who come out with it, and i have a duster on stand by so it dont annoy me

try these two tips and you will have less hassle at fill up time and less hassle going back to dealer for flat foam fix.

You'll have even less hassle, if you ask your Dealer to replace the filler flap with a new one.

Remember ----- Warranty Warranty Warranty.

Topcat · 15th December 2006, 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoff

Mine went in recently and was offered the foam mod i just refused quoted this site and all the failures so got a new cap
i just can't understand what honda is playing at it is much better to do the job once even if it costs more
Sorry first moan of the day

Geoff - stop it!!

99jim · 15th December 2006, 22:44

I got mine "repaired" yesterday. I told the dealer that the foam fix has been reported to be a waste of time but he said that he could only repair it as directed to by Honda Ireland. When he had finished, I told him not to put the foam away yet, the two cars on display were not working as I had tried them while he was away!! All he could do was look embarrassed.

thiswilldo · 15th December 2006, 23:31

My dealer told me that the foam is a temporary fix whilst they await delivery of a replacement filler door (waited a week).
The foam is not the fix...a replacement door is the fix.
Took them half hour to replace the filler door which is how long it took me to sit down and drink their free coffee.

geoff · 16th December 2006, 07:24

What I think we all should do is when the cap jams call the garage out I know this would be a pain but it is getting time for a protest
I have had my civic for seven months and have been quite good not caused any trouble at the dealer. He has done his best and apart from his suggestion to take him to court he can not offer fixes to some problems. He tells me the dealers are not getting the backup from honda and are waiting for fixes

So after christmas I shall have to think about getting what i paid for

I know I bought the car from the dealer and he is responsible but if hasn't got a cure what can you do

I am lucky I have had my cap changed but if I had not I would of called out the garage or the aa if we all did this I bet we might get some action

But the way honda are carrying on maybe not

P@tje · 16th December 2006, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC Hammer

The flap just isn't springy enough, the cable works fine and just locks the flap due it not springing open when released. Luckily being a diesel driver I don't fill up all that often so whilst it annoys me I get over it, til the next time when it opens.
I have thought about making a small block to hold the lever open whilst I walk round to the flap.

Luckily being a 1.4 driver I also don't fill up all the often!!

Meino · 17th December 2006, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL56

Hi Lennie, Have you tried looping the tie strap down by the hinge near the
flap, i have on mine and it seems to work ok.

Just tried this today (before I got to the gas station

) and tested this a few times.. It worked every time for now...

Next step is go to the garage, but I will do that when I bring it in for service, otherwise I have to leave work early and compensate the lost hours.....

scol78 · 17th December 2006, 19:45

I had my filler cap replaced last month by Honda (or so i was told) and have started to have the problem come back but not every release.Rather than take it to Honda again for the repair i have filed about 1mm of the actual locking part of the cap which latches on to the release.It now opens every time without fail.

15th December 2006, 06:11	#169 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	refused foam Mine went in recently and was offered the foam mod i just refused quoted this site and all the failures so got a new cap i just can't understand what honda is playing at it is much better to do the job once even if it costs more Sorry first moan of the day

15th December 2006, 06:28	#171 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	same It looks the same but when you shut it it is different there is a loud click as it shuts and it works fine so far

16th December 2006, 07:24	#177 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Call out the garage What I think we all should do is when the cap jams call the garage out I know this would be a pain but it is getting time for a protest I have had my civic for seven months and have been quite good not caused any trouble at the dealer. He has done his best and apart from his suggestion to take him to court he can not offer fixes to some problems. He tells me the dealers are not getting the backup from honda and are waiting for fixes So after christmas I shall have to think about getting what i paid for I know I bought the car from the dealer and he is responsible but if hasn't got a cure what can you do I am lucky I have had my cap changed but if I had not I would of called out the garage or the aa if we all did this I bet we might get some action But the way honda are carrying on maybe not

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12th December 2006, 16:43	#161 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	I borrowed a brand new 1.4 the other day and it took 8 trips back and forth before I got it open. Odd thing is my relatively old car (March build) has never suffered. But it has loads and loads of grease everywhere - wonder if that's the magic formula?

12th December 2006, 17:02	#162 (permalink)
Tony Fendall Old enough to know better Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 12th August 2006 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think its time for a mod of the mod,mod. I have never heard of a long Bowden cable installation without adjustment at one end. Even change of temperature will cause some change in length and possible malfunction. I wonder if the designer of the fuel filler cap system still works for Honda; I have my doubts. Tony

12th December 2006, 18:15	#163 (permalink)
john1509 Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 28th August 2006 Location: lancashire Posts: 62 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	my car goes in again tommorow to get the petrol cap fixed again had it done not so long ago. so tommorow im going to stand my ground and tell them to fit a new cap with a bit of luck

12th December 2006, 18:38	#164 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just a joke really. Mines come back with no fix and promise of a new cap. Which means going in again and probably driving that bloody Honda Jazz again. Does it not like wind! Least me rattle's gone.

12th December 2006, 18:43	#165 (permalink)
MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 610 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	The flap just isn't springy enough, the cable works fine and just locks the flap due it not springing open when released. Luckily being a diesel driver I don't fill up all that often so whilst it annoys me I get over it, til the next time when it opens. I have thought about making a small block to hold the lever open whilst I walk round to the flap.

12th December 2006, 19:09	#166 (permalink)
Gweneira Happy civic owner Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 13th October 2006 Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just had the filler cap mod. Now waiting for it to fail though the dealers have promised a re fit the cap if the mod fails......... to be fair they sounded as frustrated as anyone with the filler cap failures!

14th December 2006, 20:15	#167 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I didn't quite get away with giving them the courtesy car back after 4 days with less petrol in that it started so I offered to pop round the corner in it while I waited for them to finish cleaning mine and would you believe it, couldn't get the damn filler cap open, my final 4th attempt it opened otherwise I'd have given it back with no fuel back in

15th December 2006, 05:57	#168 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Has anyone have problems tryed pulling the handle relly gentley when the flap falls to open mine failled angain the other day a i thought ill try that idea of here and i got it to open 4 out of 4 time with gentle pull and only once out of 4 with normal pull so full marks to person who come out with it, and i have a duster on stand by so it dont annoy me try these two tips and you will have less hassle at fill up time and less hassle going back to dealer for flat foam fix.

15th December 2006, 06:22	#170 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	is there a pics of the diffence from old to new cap on here ? is the new cap fault free ?

15th December 2006, 07:09	#172 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	cool mite try get 1

15th December 2006, 22:44	#175 (permalink)
99jim Armchair Commander Valve Cap Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Newbridge Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I got mine "repaired" yesterday. I told the dealer that the foam fix has been reported to be a waste of time but he said that he could only repair it as directed to by Honda Ireland. When he had finished, I told him not to put the foam away yet, the two cars on display were not working as I had tried them while he was away!! All he could do was look embarrassed.

15th December 2006, 23:31	#176 (permalink)
thiswilldo Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Plymouth. UK. Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	My dealer told me that the foam is a temporary fix whilst they await delivery of a replacement filler door (waited a week). The foam is not the fix...a replacement door is the fix. Took them half hour to replace the filler door which is how long it took me to sit down and drink their free coffee.

17th December 2006, 19:45	#180 (permalink)
scol78 Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 22nd July 2006 Location: leicester Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had my filler cap replaced last month by Honda (or so i was told) and have started to have the problem come back but not every release.Rather than take it to Honda again for the repair i have filed about 1mm of the actual locking part of the cap which latches on to the release.It now opens every time without fail.