Electrics Check your alarm system - Page 24

Clive242 · 15th December 2008, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by jont122

Car Is back they have tested it and reset it again (By disconnecting the Battery?) Checked voltage (OK) and the alternator, both okay.
Have been told it is not the alarm that is faulty, but does not work because a volts drop?
Regards

That really does sound like the same problem I've got.
Dealer disconnects the battery, problem goes away for a day/week, then comes back.

It's been discussed in this thread before, but sounds like you may need the magical part Honda are getting the fusebox manufacturer to make.

Strangely, I know of three of us with what appears to be the same fault. One in Derby, one in Rotherham, one in Hull. And now you in Doncaster.
Beginning to think it's an M18 conspiracy.

jockserb · 15th December 2008, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clive242

That really does sound like the same problem I've got.
Dealer disconnects the battery, problem goes away for a day/week, then comes back.

It's been discussed in this thread before, but sounds like you may need the magical part Honda are getting the fusebox manufacturer to make.

Strangely, I know of three of us with what appears to be the same fault. One in Derby, one in Rotherham, one in Hull. And now you in Doncaster.
Beginning to think it's an M18 conspiracy.

Alarm...................read above my last post........Dealer disconnects the battery alarm and audible siren works....Okay,when you leave car make sure your auto wipers and auto lights are switched to off ,and your alarm will keep working also the audible sound..........though you shouldnt have to do this.....I Should have kept this to myself....as I dont want to be doing any favours for Honda customer service..........................I dislike them that much,When they start paying off customer service staff they will realise how good there jobs were ...QUOTE:Treat people the way you would like to be treated yourself..........Okay Hope this Helps.....Chet The Sparky

Clive242 · 15th December 2008, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by jockserb

Alarm...................read above my last post........Dealer disconnects the battery alarm and audible siren works....Okay,when you leave car make sure your auto wipers and auto lights are switched to off ,and your alarm will keep working also the audible sound..........though you shouldnt have to do this.....I Should have kept this to myself....as I dont want to be doing any favours for Honda customer service..........................I dislike them that much,When they start paying off the staff you will realise how good your job was...QUOTE Treat people the way you would like treated yourself..........Okay Hope this Helps.....

I'd love to know if anyone has any joy with the above. My Civic has been locked away for a few weeks at a dealer, so I'm unable to try it.

However, I ALWAYS had the wipers and lights on Auto, so there may be something in it.

CCC · 16th December 2008, 09:52

On my car it was apparently a loose connection? Seems OK now!
Why have nt Honda sorted out this problem yet, and why are brand new cars leaving the factory with this issue?

jockserb · 16th December 2008, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCC

On my car it was apparently a loose connection? Seems OK now!
Why have nt Honda sorted out this problem yet, and why are brand new cars leaving the factory with this issue?

Ha ha ha ha...........heard that one before........... loose connection,tell me if it works in a weeks time.......

boring.com · 16th December 2008, 14:06

for the record; my stealers told me exactly the same ** confessing my alarm was indeed in the same condition as their dealership ..... a failure !!!

Shoulin · 18th December 2008, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by boring.com

for the record; my stealers told me exactly the same ** confessing my alarm was indeed in the same condition as their dealership ..... a failure !!!

LOL - Thats class!

Franky · 21st December 2008, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jont122

Hello

tried alarm this morning, by putting the key in the door and the indicators flashed once! and not alarm?

This is how it works on the fob?

Is this the same for everybody else who has had there alarm fixed recently.

Regards

Try this:

My alarm works fin, I tested it this way:
Go in to jour car and close the doors (set alarm) with the remote controle.
Wait for 20 sec. and then unlock the bonnet.
The alarm is going of: sound and flashing indicator lights.
Then reset the alarm with the remote control.

My car has no internal sound censors!
I also tried to open de door outside with the key (anticlockwise) but I can not open the doors this way.

Regards,

Frans

Nitehawk · 21st December 2008, 16:42

Oh yes......

my 58 model Type S GT alarm has failed after checking it successfully when I first got it, and to top it my passenger door can't be opened from the inside....... Back to the dealer tomorrow and they can't say they've never heard of it cos my last Type S had the same....... What is it with Honda, don't they read these threads, how pathetic is this

StevenG · 22nd December 2008, 14:50

Just an update on my dealings with my local dealer... I went back today to get my nice new folding wing mirror put on. As I was there again, I decided to bring up my alarm issue. While they had the car they tested it, and when I went to get it again they told me it was fine. I then asked them if they could show me it working. So we went out to my car, and it worked fine. I think what I was doing wrong before was not waiting long enough before trying to set it off.

The steps to reproduce were as follows: Open a back window, then shut all doors and lock the car. Then he drew my attention to the flashing red light on the dash. I hadn't realised that it does two different speeds of flash. At first it's a regular on and off. Then after a while it goes to a different pattern, where there is a very short flash, followed by a longer length of time with it off. Once the pattern of the light flashing changed, he stuck his arm in the back window, waved it about, and then the alarm sounded.

I tried it again when I got home, and it still worked. I'd be interested to know if they did anything to it while they had it, or the problem is solely down to waiting for the red light to change its flash. Any thoughts, anyone?

jockserb · 22nd December 2008, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenG

Just an update on my dealings with my local dealer... I went back today to get my nice new folding wing mirror put on. As I was there again, I decided to bring up my alarm issue. While they had the car they tested it, and when I went to get it again they told me it was fine. I then asked them if they could show me it working. So we went out to my car, and it worked fine. I think what I was doing wrong before was not waiting long enough before trying to set it off.

The steps to reproduce were as follows: Open a back window, then shut all doors and lock the car. Then he drew my attention to the flashing red light on the dash. I hadn't realised that it does two different speeds of flash. At first it's a regular on and off. Then after a while it goes to a different pattern, where there is a very short flash, followed by a longer length of time with it off. Once the pattern of the light flashing changed, he stuck his arm in the back window, waved it about, and then the alarm sounded.

I tried it again when I got home, and it still worked. I'd be interested to know if they did anything to it while they had it, or the problem is solely down to waiting for the red light to change its flash. Any thoughts, anyone?

Thats great mate Battery reset you now have the fix

,,,,,,

Clive242 · 7th January 2009, 15:52

Well, I've got my Civic back, and so far the alarm has kept working.

I tried to get some details out of the dealer about the part in question, but all they would tell me is "It's a handmade fusebox".

My suspicion is that it will intermittently (probably when you turn the ignition off) disconnect the supply to the alarm for a second, then reconnect it. In effect resetting the alarm each time I get out of the car.

Fingers crossed.

jockserb · 7th January 2009, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clive242

Well, I've got my Civic back, and so far the alarm has kept working.

I tried to get some details out of the dealer about the part in question, but all they would tell me is "It's a handmade fusebox".

My suspicion is that it will intermittently (probably when you turn the ignition off) disconnect the supply to the alarm for a second, then reconnect it. In effect resetting the alarm each time I get out of the car.

Fingers crossed.

Mine still works without this addon...............goodluck

benjamino · 7th January 2009, 17:33

What does the auto wipers and auto light setting have to do with it? Might have missed something earlier, sorry.

tomo2001 · 8th January 2009, 12:22

Dropped car off this morning for first service. Mentioned alarm fault when booking it in and again at reception today. I said that apparently Honda Uk have a car(s) with same fault and apparently is now a known issue. The reply was "Yes Sir, we have a Technical bulletin about it. It is caused by the battery voltage dropping below allowable limits".
Thought we'd got over this one!!

I guess when I pick it up they will have disconnected the battery, reset the alarm and all will be ok again until Sunday.

Clive242 · 8th January 2009, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomo2001

The reply was "Yes Sir, we have a Technical bulletin about it. It is caused by the battery voltage dropping below allowable limits".
Thought we'd got over this one!!

I've asked on numerous occasions if there is a part number/technical article which people can quote rather than going around in circles. Seems like there isn't.

Lookers Honda in Derby are the dealer who have seen this problem though, and know all about it. All they can tell me is Swindon have requested the fusebox manufacturer make a bespoke 'hand made' fusebox to resolve the issue.
I was advised on 23rd December that the new part was available.

Day 3 in the big bother car: Alarm still working.

Clive242 · 13th January 2009, 14:18

Day 8, alarm still working. This is the longest any of the 7 fixes have lasted.
So, fingers crossed. This new fusebox may be the answer.

pubcrawler · 14th January 2009, 13:22

I am going back into the dealers (for the 3rd time) about my alarm on Fri, as far as I believe it has never worked!! The internal sensors dont work and I also need them to look at the lights as only one adjusts from the internal controller.....

pubcrawler · 19th January 2009, 10:26

Ok car went again to dealers again about alarm and the service desk manager told me he doesnt know what the problem is? They are having my car for 4 days and I am getting a courtesy 1.8

tried to get an s2000 but they were having none of it...Hopefully this time they will sort it?

Clive242 · 19th January 2009, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by pubcrawler

They are having my car for 4 days

1. Is your car a lease car? If so, go straight to them (then own the car after-all). In my case this worked wonders, and Honda UK had a new Accord with all the toys loaned to me within 3 days. I kept it for almost 7 weeks until the alarm was working.

2. Find out what your dealer plans to do for the 4 days. It sounds like they want to be drip-fed ideas from Swindon, try them, and report back.
I'd be tempted to mention the bespoke fusebox which seems to have resolved my problems. They won't give me a part number. PM me if they fob you off.

(Currently on day 14. The longest any fix has ever worked)

View Poll Results: Check your alarm, does it work ?
Yes, it hurt my ears thanks !	215	71.91%
No, Honda have done it again !	84	28.09%
Voters: 299. You may not vote on this poll \| Withdraw Vote

Similar Threads for: Check your alarm system
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Faults Check system fault	Kpow99	Engines and Transmission	3	3rd November 2008 19:31
Electrics Check System icon displayed on engine start	ricky_west	Bugs, faults and irritations	3	11th January 2008 17:07
Warnings Check System - Engine Symbol!	Gloucestershire	Electronics	2	12th December 2007 07:43
Engine Check System ON glowplug indicator flashing	3rd Honda	Bugs, faults and irritations	31	9th December 2007 12:51
Alarm 2 Way alarm System	beachead21	Electronics	4	2nd November 2006 07:35


This thread is about: Check your alarm system, it's in Bugs, faults and irritations at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by jont122 Car Is back they have tested it and reset it again (By disconnecting the Battery?) Checked voltage (OK) and the alternator, ...

16th December 2008, 09:52	#464 (permalink)
CCC Join Date: 10th October 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 354 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts iTrader: (0)	On my car it was apparently a loose connection? Seems OK now! Why have nt Honda sorted out this problem yet, and why are brand new cars leaving the factory with this issue?

16th December 2008, 14:06	#466 (permalink)
boring.com Join Date: 29th August 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 178 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	for the record; my stealers told me exactly the same ** confessing my alarm was indeed in the same condition as their dealership ..... a failure !!!

21st December 2008, 16:42	#469 (permalink)
Nitehawk Supporter Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: North Cambs Posts: 157 Thanks: 60 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	Oh yes...... my 58 model Type S GT alarm has failed after checking it successfully when I first got it, and to top it my passenger door can't be opened from the inside....... Back to the dealer tomorrow and they can't say they've never heard of it cos my last Type S had the same....... What is it with Honda, don't they read these threads, how pathetic is this

22nd December 2008, 14:50	#470 (permalink)
StevenG Join Date: 1st December 2008 Location: UK Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Just an update on my dealings with my local dealer... I went back today to get my nice new folding wing mirror put on. As I was there again, I decided to bring up my alarm issue. While they had the car they tested it, and when I went to get it again they told me it was fine. I then asked them if they could show me it working. So we went out to my car, and it worked fine. I think what I was doing wrong before was not waiting long enough before trying to set it off. The steps to reproduce were as follows: Open a back window, then shut all doors and lock the car. Then he drew my attention to the flashing red light on the dash. I hadn't realised that it does two different speeds of flash. At first it's a regular on and off. Then after a while it goes to a different pattern, where there is a very short flash, followed by a longer length of time with it off. Once the pattern of the light flashing changed, he stuck his arm in the back window, waved it about, and then the alarm sounded. I tried it again when I got home, and it still worked. I'd be interested to know if they did anything to it while they had it, or the problem is solely down to waiting for the red light to change its flash. Any thoughts, anyone?

7th January 2009, 15:52	#472 (permalink)
Clive242 Supporter Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Lost in 1983 Posts: 133 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well, I've got my Civic back, and so far the alarm has kept working. I tried to get some details out of the dealer about the part in question, but all they would tell me is "It's a handmade fusebox". My suspicion is that it will intermittently (probably when you turn the ignition off) disconnect the supply to the alarm for a second, then reconnect it. In effect resetting the alarm each time I get out of the car. Fingers crossed.

7th January 2009, 17:33	#474 (permalink)
benjamino Join Date: 29th November 2008 Location: Exeter Posts: 85 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	What does the auto wipers and auto light setting have to do with it? Might have missed something earlier, sorry.

8th January 2009, 12:22	#475 (permalink)
tomo2001 Join Date: 25th May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 190 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dropped car off this morning for first service. Mentioned alarm fault when booking it in and again at reception today. I said that apparently Honda Uk have a car(s) with same fault and apparently is now a known issue. The reply was "Yes Sir, we have a Technical bulletin about it. It is caused by the battery voltage dropping below allowable limits". Thought we'd got over this one!! I guess when I pick it up they will have disconnected the battery, reset the alarm and all will be ok again until Sunday.

13th January 2009, 14:18	#477 (permalink)
Clive242 Supporter Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Lost in 1983 Posts: 133 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Day 8, alarm still working. This is the longest any of the 7 fixes have lasted. So, fingers crossed. This new fusebox may be the answer.

14th January 2009, 13:22	#478 (permalink)
pubcrawler Vtec'er Car: 2008 Silver CTR Join Date: 8th January 2008 Location: Petrol Station Posts: 238 Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I am going back into the dealers (for the 3rd time) about my alarm on Fri, as far as I believe it has never worked!! The internal sensors dont work and I also need them to look at the lights as only one adjusts from the internal controller.....

19th January 2009, 10:26	#479 (permalink)
pubcrawler Vtec'er Car: 2008 Silver CTR Join Date: 8th January 2008 Location: Petrol Station Posts: 238 Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ok car went again to dealers again about alarm and the service desk manager told me he doesnt know what the problem is? They are having my car for 4 days and I am getting a courtesy 1.8 tried to get an s2000 but they were having none of it...Hopefully this time they will sort it?