Electrics Check your alarm system - Page 5

streakybird · 21st June 2008, 08:52

okay i have just returned from the dealership (yesterday), anyway i meantioned about this problems... here it goes!

Basically my car has an issue... the boot door doesnt shut correctly until it is slammed! (long story, but it was hit from behind and well considering there was no visible evidence, there was damage to the inside and now it doesnt correctly shut) so when i showed them that my alarm doesnt sound, lights flashing and all... they said to me the reason for the alarm not working is because of my boot issue!!! yep!!!!

Bearing in mind, my boot DOES shut, just needs an extra bit of force, then what are they talking about...

The other day, i left the fuel cap open to test it, locked the car and left my kids in it, hey presto... lights flashing, no noise... because the fuel cap was open, the alarm doesnt sound!

So last night tested it all again... this time, religously closing every nook and cranny our cars have and once again left the kids in there (i dont make this a habit, i use them for research purposes...lol) and YAY ALARM SOUND!!!!
Just to make this fair... i opened the fuel cap again and locked it, and there you go... lights, no sound!!!

So what have got out of this... i havent a clue! But the principle shows that if you havent secured your car in every way possible then the alarm will not alert you!

Otherwise this experiment was a complete waste of time and there is obviously a problem...

Breakfast time... im hungry!!!!

Nitehawk · 21st June 2008, 13:22

Just back from my local stealer and after considerable debate and a major lack of consideration for my concerns they took the car into the garage and agreed there was a problem that they were "unaware"

of so the Hawk is booked in this week. Looking back on the various posts there doesn't seem to be a pattern emerging, no particular variant or build date so it's a check worth carrying out

x Dr Vodka x · 22nd June 2008, 21:26

keep checking peeps, needs to be a solid post, all noobs too

x Dr Vodka x · 23rd June 2008, 09:19

Car gone in today, got to Honda Wigan at 08:00 hrs like they asked me to and they kindly turned up 15mins late.

They asked what the problem was and I said I had no alarm….. He said “are you sure it should have one, did you add it as an option?” My jaw dropped …

…. Are you F*$KING kidding me. “It’s a type R” I replied, “I hope so!” Then they gave me a 1.4 Civic whose interior looks like 1500 school kids have eaten pasties and cakes in it!!!

Oh this is not a good start!

cnicolini · 23rd June 2008, 11:31

What a bunch of muppets, they cant be serious. Does nt give you much faith in what they are doing?

Clive242 · 23rd June 2008, 11:45

Just tried a test with a colleague who has a '56' plate EX.

Drivers window down, set the alarm, wait 30 seconds, stick your hand through the open window.
His: siren + hazards
Mine: Nothing. Even reached in and scratched at the ultrasonic sensors. Nothing.

Unlocked the door from the inside, and opened. I just get the hazards and NO siren.

Rich 11 · 23rd June 2008, 12:00

Its becomng evident that we have opened a can of worms and is not an isolated case, please all keep all feedback coming even if your alarm is ok. Its looking like the fault is on late 07 cars and most 08's

hurricane · 23rd June 2008, 12:09

Just to re-iterate what I said before, my alarm goes off (lights flash and horn beeps intermitently for 30 secs) if a door is opened without the key. There are however no sensors near the rearview mirror/interior lights, and also the "siren" that people mention is actually the horn on my car. Don't know why there would be a separate siren. The owner's manual states that if the doors are opened with the remote, or the driver's door is unlocked with the key, then the alarm will not go off (obviously). If a door is opened any other way, from inside for example, or if the radio is removed, or even if the bonnet is opened, then the alarm will go off.

Don't know if that helps at all... oh and this was standard on the car from the factory.

cnicolini · 23rd June 2008, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane

Just to re-iterate what I said before, my alarm goes off (lights flash and horn beeps intermitently for 30 secs) if a door is opened without the key. There are however no sensors near the rearview mirror/interior lights, and also the "siren" that people mention is actually the horn on my car. Don't know why there would be a separate siren. The owner's manual states that if the doors are opened with the remote, or the driver's door is unlocked with the key, then the alarm will not go off (obviously). If a door is opened any other way, from inside for example, or if the radio is removed, or even if the bonnet is opened, then the alarm will go off.

Don't know if that helps at all... oh and this was standard on the car from the factory.

There are two types of alarms, by the sound of things yours does not have a siren or sensors if the horn is going off, and only operates on the doors, etc.

I wonder if there's a problem with these latest batches of alarms being installed to these cars???
There even may be a recall soon if more people have these issues!

enis · 23rd June 2008, 14:07

I've tested mine and locked myself in, then arm the alarm and tried to open door from inside and horn sounds. Good.

But I found that I have sensors close to the interior lights and I was trying to trigger them by knocking but noting happened. Does anyone knows the way I should test them to see if they are working?
I have a 2.2 Sport model (Dutch)

Jethro · 23rd June 2008, 14:26

Just tested mine (CTR July 07) and it works fine.

As soon as I unlocked the door with the key the siren went off (didn't even open it). And I tested it with the driver's window open and the motion sensors set off the siren. Flashing hazards both times.

That's a relief.

cnicolini · 23rd June 2008, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by enis

I've tested mine and locked myself in, then arm the alarm and tried to open door from inside and horn sounds. Good.

But I found that I have sensors close to the interior lights and I was trying to trigger them by knocking but noting happened. Does anyone knows the way I should test them to see if they are working?
I have a 2.2 Sport model (Dutch)

If you are in the car and moving around that should be all it takes, it sounds like that you sensors are not working like on my car!

x Dr Vodka x · 23rd June 2008, 15:09

New siren to be fitted, so that means they need to order it and fit it. Good job I have a 1.4 Civic and not the Jazz Auto they were going to give me.

cnicolini · 23rd June 2008, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Dr Vodka x

New siren to be fitted, so that means they need to order it and fit it. Good job I have a 1.4 Civic and not the Jazz Auto they were going to give me.

Will this also fix the sensor problem in the car? Surely they will give you your car back till they have the part?

x Dr Vodka x · 23rd June 2008, 15:12

Honda said apparently the sensors don’t switch on if the windows are down, so they cant be tested that way. You need to sit in and keep still for 2 mins then move ! I still don’t believe them on this though

Clive242 · 23rd June 2008, 15:12

Just got mine booked in for next Monday.

No alarm (horn or siren), and the interior sensors don't seem able to detect anything.

The dealer didn't know of any alarm problems.

Clive242 · 23rd June 2008, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Dr Vodka x

Honda said apparently the sensors don’t switch on if the windows are down, so they cant be tested that way. You need to sit in and keep still for 2 mins then move ! I still don’t believe them on this though

Strange! The dealer just got me to test:
windows down, alarm on, wait 2 minutes, wave arms through window.
He said that should trigger the alarm - it didn't!

As an aside. I made the mistake of telling some people at the pub last night about my alarm doubts. They practically rolled the car over. Guess what, no alarm!

cnicolini · 23rd June 2008, 15:17

I would nt worry, most people ignore car alarms anyhow!

trickytree71 · 23rd June 2008, 16:15

Just tried the children in the back test on my 08 2.2 EX model and not a squeak when she starts jumping all around the inside of the car.

x Dr Vodka x · 23rd June 2008, 16:37

I am now aware of the Ultrasonic sensor function test, I found it by Googling. This involves opening driver’s window, closing doors and locking the doors. Then wait a while about 25 seconds or so, then put your hands inside the window. The alarm should sound, if it does not they should replace the ultrasonic sensor. Funny thing is that they didn’t know about this procedure, its common place with all Alarm sensors on all cars. Idiots

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21st June 2008, 08:52	#81 (permalink)
streakybird Dieting is boring! Join Date: 3rd June 2008 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 223 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	okay i have just returned from the dealership (yesterday), anyway i meantioned about this problems... here it goes! Basically my car has an issue... the boot door doesnt shut correctly until it is slammed! (long story, but it was hit from behind and well considering there was no visible evidence, there was damage to the inside and now it doesnt correctly shut) so when i showed them that my alarm doesnt sound, lights flashing and all... they said to me the reason for the alarm not working is because of my boot issue!!! yep!!!! Bearing in mind, my boot DOES shut, just needs an extra bit of force, then what are they talking about... The other day, i left the fuel cap open to test it, locked the car and left my kids in it, hey presto... lights flashing, no noise... because the fuel cap was open, the alarm doesnt sound! So last night tested it all again... this time, religously closing every nook and cranny our cars have and once again left the kids in there (i dont make this a habit, i use them for research purposes...lol) and YAY ALARM SOUND!!!! Just to make this fair... i opened the fuel cap again and locked it, and there you go... lights, no sound!!! So what have got out of this... i havent a clue! But the principle shows that if you havent secured your car in every way possible then the alarm will not alert you! Otherwise this experiment was a complete waste of time and there is obviously a problem... Breakfast time... im hungry!!!!

21st June 2008, 13:22	#82 (permalink)
Nitehawk Supporter Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: North Cambs Posts: 157 Thanks: 60 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just back from my local stealer and after considerable debate and a major lack of consideration for my concerns they took the car into the garage and agreed there was a problem that they were "unaware" of so the Hawk is booked in this week. Looking back on the various posts there doesn't seem to be a pattern emerging, no particular variant or build date so it's a check worth carrying out

22nd June 2008, 21:26	#83 (permalink)
x Dr Vodka x Wigan Warriors Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Sunny Wigan Posts: 924 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts iTrader: (1)	keep checking peeps, needs to be a solid post, all noobs too

23rd June 2008, 11:31	#85 (permalink)
cnicolini Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 587 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	What a bunch of muppets, they cant be serious. Does nt give you much faith in what they are doing?

23rd June 2008, 11:45	#86 (permalink)
Clive242 Supporter Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Lost in 1983 Posts: 133 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just tried a test with a colleague who has a '56' plate EX. Drivers window down, set the alarm, wait 30 seconds, stick your hand through the open window. His: siren + hazards Mine: Nothing. Even reached in and scratched at the ultrasonic sensors. Nothing. Unlocked the door from the inside, and opened. I just get the hazards and NO siren.

23rd June 2008, 12:00	#87 (permalink)
Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 2,223 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 45 Posts iTrader: (0)	Its becomng evident that we have opened a can of worms and is not an isolated case, please all keep all feedback coming even if your alarm is ok. Its looking like the fault is on late 07 cars and most 08's

23rd June 2008, 12:09	#88 (permalink)
hurricane At last, summer tyres! Car: 2008 1.8i Sport, Milano Red Join Date: 22nd May 2008 Location: Kymenlaakso, Finland Posts: 368 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just to re-iterate what I said before, my alarm goes off (lights flash and horn beeps intermitently for 30 secs) if a door is opened without the key. There are however no sensors near the rearview mirror/interior lights, and also the "siren" that people mention is actually the horn on my car. Don't know why there would be a separate siren. The owner's manual states that if the doors are opened with the remote, or the driver's door is unlocked with the key, then the alarm will not go off (obviously). If a door is opened any other way, from inside for example, or if the radio is removed, or even if the bonnet is opened, then the alarm will go off. Don't know if that helps at all... oh and this was standard on the car from the factory.

23rd June 2008, 14:07	#90 (permalink)
enis Join Date: 19th November 2006 Location: Den Haag, Netherlands Posts: 49 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I've tested mine and locked myself in, then arm the alarm and tried to open door from inside and horn sounds. Good. But I found that I have sensors close to the interior lights and I was trying to trigger them by knocking but noting happened. Does anyone knows the way I should test them to see if they are working? I have a 2.2 Sport model (Dutch)

23rd June 2008, 14:26	#91 (permalink)
Jethro Join Date: 28th April 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just tested mine (CTR July 07) and it works fine. As soon as I unlocked the door with the key the siren went off (didn't even open it). And I tested it with the driver's window open and the motion sensors set off the siren. Flashing hazards both times. That's a relief.

23rd June 2008, 15:09	#93 (permalink)
x Dr Vodka x Wigan Warriors Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Sunny Wigan Posts: 924 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts iTrader: (1)	New siren to be fitted, so that means they need to order it and fit it. Good job I have a 1.4 Civic and not the Jazz Auto they were going to give me.

23rd June 2008, 15:12	#95 (permalink)
x Dr Vodka x Wigan Warriors Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Sunny Wigan Posts: 924 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts iTrader: (1)	Honda said apparently the sensors don’t switch on if the windows are down, so they cant be tested that way. You need to sit in and keep still for 2 mins then move ! I still don’t believe them on this though

23rd June 2008, 15:12	#96 (permalink)
Clive242 Supporter Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Lost in 1983 Posts: 133 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just got mine booked in for next Monday. No alarm (horn or siren), and the interior sensors don't seem able to detect anything. The dealer didn't know of any alarm problems.

23rd June 2008, 15:17	#98 (permalink)
cnicolini Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 587 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I would nt worry, most people ignore car alarms anyhow!

23rd June 2008, 16:15	#99 (permalink)
trickytree71 Join Date: 27th September 2006 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just tried the children in the back test on my 08 2.2 EX model and not a squeak when she starts jumping all around the inside of the car.

23rd June 2008, 16:37	#100 (permalink)
x Dr Vodka x Wigan Warriors Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Sunny Wigan Posts: 924 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts iTrader: (1)	I am now aware of the Ultrasonic sensor function test, I found it by Googling. This involves opening driver’s window, closing doors and locking the doors. Then wait a while about 25 seconds or so, then put your hands inside the window. The alarm should sound, if it does not they should replace the ultrasonic sensor. Funny thing is that they didn’t know about this procedure, its common place with all Alarm sensors on all cars. Idiots