Electrics Check your alarm system - Page 6

fickel · 23rd June 2008, 17:38

1 month old 08 Type S
Closed door but held on to the door handle. Armed system and waited for alarm to set.
Opened door and horn and indicators.

Dropped drivers window and re-armed, waited for it to set.
Waved arms about inside and nothing.

Unlocked door with door switch and horn / indicators.

There are no mics in my interior light assembly but two grills.
I can only presume it's an impact sensor instead of ultrasonic motion detectors to stop alarm going off when it's windy and the movement happens through ventilation system.

Not gonna pop a window to check my theory tho'

dave525 · 23rd June 2008, 17:58

The Type S , SE and sport do not have an interior alarm, they only have the perimeter alarm

Ramsay · 23rd June 2008, 18:01

Just checked my July 07 ES. Interior sensors and opening doors with the key all set off the little siren. Alarm functions as normal with the refuel cover open

With the engine hood on the first latch or up, the doors will lock as normal on the remote key however the indicators do not flash; in this situation, the siren is not set as unlocking the doors by the key does not produce the siren.

Ramsay

Rich 11 · 23rd June 2008, 18:35

Alarm fixed and .......................................whey hey !!!!!!!!!!!! Now not working again lights flashing but no siren , Bloody ELL here we go again """ Only lasted 3 days.......Arrrrrggggghhhhhh !!!!

This is becoming very remenisant of the Audi Coil pack problem back in 2002 which made it onto BBC Watchdog I had all 4 coils replaced on my TT over a 4 week period after the replacement coil packs were also faulty !!

Simon_F · 23rd June 2008, 18:36

Mine went into the dealers today and is having a new siren fitted tomorrow. We'll see if that sorts it!!!

Thanks

Simon

x Dr Vodka x · 23rd June 2008, 19:11

think a report to BBC watchdog could be in order

Rich 11 · 23rd June 2008, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Dr Vodka x

think a report to BBC watchdog could be in order

Thats just what I have been thinking

generationgav · 23rd June 2008, 21:37

Same as everyone else, flashing lights no alarms!
Does anybody know if this could affect our insurance??
Early 07 Type S-GT by the way.

Rich 11 · 23rd June 2008, 23:01

Yes it does effect your insurance I checked , honda say the car is un nickable even without the siren working ??????

R-2 · 24th June 2008, 10:00

Been away and only just got round to checking my car and guess what no alarm

I opened the window and locked the car with remote...... leaned in through the window and nothing happened. Not even flashing indicators.
I did notice however that there is a red light flashing on the dash. I presume this is to tell you that the alarm is armed?

I even locked my daughter inside the car and told her to move around....still nothing

I've had the car for 6 months completely ignorant of the fact that i had no alarm.
Very annoying........

Although as theft prevention devices alarms are generally useless as no one takes any notice!

Ramsay · 24th June 2008, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by R-2

Been away and only just got round to checking my car and guess what no alarm

I opened the window and locked the car with remote...... leaned in through the window and nothing happened. Not even flashing indicators.
I did notice however that there is a red light flashing on the dash. I presume this is to tell you that the alarm is armed?

I even locked my daughter inside the car and told her to move around....still nothing

I've had the car for 6 months completely ignorant of the fact that i had no alarm.
Very annoying........

Although as theft prevention devices alarms are generally useless as no one takes any notice!

After you set the alarm, did you wait at least 20 seconds or, until the red light flashed at a slower frequency which indicates the alarm has set ?

hurricane · 24th June 2008, 11:23

I think maybe one of the dealers/Honda reps from this site should clarify exactly what type of alarm is fitted to what model. I notice that many of us have different experiences as to what happens when (and if) the alarm goes off. I think that some of you are being overly paranoid and don't actually have the alarm system that you think you have (and rightly so if it is not part of the model spec). Only certain models have the motion sensors, not all.

Clive242 · 24th June 2008, 11:54

Well, according to my '08' 5 door brochure (includes Tango Orange so must be recent):
The SE and SPORT have a 'Perimeter security alarm', and the ES and EX have an 'Interior and perimeter alarm (CAT1)' as standard.

My previous brochure (02/07) states exactly the same as the above.

I take 'alarm' to mean it has a siren, and 'interior' to mean it has ultrasonic sensors near the rear view mirror.

In my case, neither seem to work.

alanwalne · 24th June 2008, 12:30

Has anyone whose alarms do not work have a copy of the PDI sheet for their car. Do they state the siren has to be activated?

I know for a fact that in my SE the alarm uses the car horn.

Memory serves that to be a CAT 1 alarm, it needs to have battery backup incase someone cuts the Battery cable. This may need an extra (hidden) siren.

Perhaps part of the PDI in the UK is to turn on the siren as some markets may not have it activated.

generationgav · 24th June 2008, 12:52

I'm pretty sure I found the siren yesterday, it's on the RHS within the boot with the wiring stuff for reversing parking sensors. It was plugged in though.

simon1 · 24th June 2008, 13:22

08 model SE 2.2 - Alarm works fine. It's just the horn and the indicators so I assume the SE has no siren as there is no interior sensors.

Just to make sure we are doing this test right - the manual says that the alarm will not go on if the doors are unlocked with the key fob or the key itself. To test it, I got into the car and set the alarm, waited for the LED to flash slower (about 10 secs) and then opened the door by manually unlocking it from the inside. Worked fine.

Smarty · 24th June 2008, 13:27

I'm going to have to check my sport again tonight. Last night I tried to set the alarm off, all to no avail, no lights or siren. I've seen the light flashing inside so something is happening...

alanwalne · 24th June 2008, 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty

I'm going to have to check my sport again tonight. Last night I tried to set the alarm off, all to no avail, no lights or siren. I've seen the light flashing inside so something is happening...

Smarty

Sit in your car,double lock the car using the plipper, and wait for the red light to flash.

Then open the bonnet using the release handle.

Three things should then happen

1) The indicators should flash

2) The horn will sound

3) Anyone around will think you are mad

cnicolini · 24th June 2008, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

I'm pretty sure I found the siren yesterday, it's on the RHS within the boot with the wiring stuff for reversing parking sensors. It was plugged in though.

In the Boot, where abouts, I cant see any alarm device in mine? My alarm was working a few months ago but now its not, just has flashing lights and the sensers no nothing!

Clive242 · 24th June 2008, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwalne

Smarty

Sit in your car,double lock the car using the plipper, and wait for the red light to flash.

Then open the bonnet using the release handle.

Three things should then happen

1) The indicators should flash

2) The horn will sound

3) Anyone around will think you are mad

Good idea! Just tried it: flashing hazards, no noise!

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23rd June 2008, 17:38	#101 (permalink)
fickel Join Date: 16th May 2008 Location: West Yorks ...Near Lancs/N Yorks Border Posts: 92 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just checked Mine 1 month old 08 Type S Closed door but held on to the door handle. Armed system and waited for alarm to set. Opened door and horn and indicators. Dropped drivers window and re-armed, waited for it to set. Waved arms about inside and nothing. Unlocked door with door switch and horn / indicators. There are no mics in my interior light assembly but two grills. I can only presume it's an impact sensor instead of ultrasonic motion detectors to stop alarm going off when it's windy and the movement happens through ventilation system. Not gonna pop a window to check my theory tho'

23rd June 2008, 18:35	#104 (permalink)
Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 2,223 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 45 Posts iTrader: (0)	Alarm fixed and .......................................whey hey !!!!!!!!!!!! Now not working again lights flashing but no siren , Bloody ELL here we go again """ Only lasted 3 days.......Arrrrrggggghhhhhh !!!! This is becoming very remenisant of the Audi Coil pack problem back in 2002 which made it onto BBC Watchdog I had all 4 coils replaced on my TT over a 4 week period after the replacement coil packs were also faulty !! Last edited by Rich 11; 23rd June 2008 at 21:19.

23rd June 2008, 23:01	#109 (permalink)
Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 2,223 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 45 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes it does effect your insurance I checked , honda say the car is un nickable even without the siren working ?????? Last edited by Rich 11; 24th June 2008 at 07:41.

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This thread is about: Check your alarm system, it's in Bugs, faults and irritations at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; 1 month old 08 Type S Closed door but held on to the door handle. Armed system and waited for alarm to set. Opened door ...

23rd June 2008, 17:58	#102 (permalink)
dave525 Supporter Car: Skoda Octavia VRS Join Date: 22nd November 2007 Location: Portishead Posts: 546 Thanks: 29 Thanked 34 Times in 34 Posts iTrader: (0)	The Type S , SE and sport do not have an interior alarm, they only have the perimeter alarm

23rd June 2008, 18:01	#103 (permalink)
Ramsay Supporter Join Date: 8th May 2007 Location: Camberley Surrey Posts: 136 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just checked my July 07 ES. Interior sensors and opening doors with the key all set off the little siren. Alarm functions as normal with the refuel cover open With the engine hood on the first latch or up, the doors will lock as normal on the remote key however the indicators do not flash; in this situation, the siren is not set as unlocking the doors by the key does not produce the siren. Ramsay

23rd June 2008, 18:36	#105 (permalink)
Simon_F Join Date: 2nd June 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Mine went into the dealers today and is having a new siren fitted tomorrow. We'll see if that sorts it!!! Thanks Simon

23rd June 2008, 19:11	#106 (permalink)
x Dr Vodka x Wigan Warriors Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Sunny Wigan Posts: 924 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts iTrader: (1)	think a report to BBC watchdog could be in order

23rd June 2008, 21:37	#108 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 832 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	Same as everyone else, flashing lights no alarms! Does anybody know if this could affect our insurance?? Early 07 Type S-GT by the way.

24th June 2008, 10:00	#110 (permalink)
R-2 Nemo woz ere Car: TYPE R GT NIGHTHAWK BLACK Join Date: 1st October 2007 Location: deep in the shires Posts: 1,523 Thanks: 49 Thanked 60 Times in 58 Posts iTrader: (0)	Been away and only just got round to checking my car and guess what no alarm I opened the window and locked the car with remote...... leaned in through the window and nothing happened. Not even flashing indicators. I did notice however that there is a red light flashing on the dash. I presume this is to tell you that the alarm is armed? I even locked my daughter inside the car and told her to move around....still nothing I've had the car for 6 months completely ignorant of the fact that i had no alarm. Very annoying........ Although as theft prevention devices alarms are generally useless as no one takes any notice!

24th June 2008, 11:23	#112 (permalink)
hurricane At last, summer tyres! Car: 2008 1.8i Sport, Milano Red Join Date: 22nd May 2008 Location: Kymenlaakso, Finland Posts: 368 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think maybe one of the dealers/Honda reps from this site should clarify exactly what type of alarm is fitted to what model. I notice that many of us have different experiences as to what happens when (and if) the alarm goes off. I think that some of you are being overly paranoid and don't actually have the alarm system that you think you have (and rightly so if it is not part of the model spec). Only certain models have the motion sensors, not all.

24th June 2008, 11:54	#113 (permalink)
Clive242 Supporter Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Lost in 1983 Posts: 133 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well, according to my '08' 5 door brochure (includes Tango Orange so must be recent): The SE and SPORT have a 'Perimeter security alarm', and the ES and EX have an 'Interior and perimeter alarm (CAT1)' as standard. My previous brochure (02/07) states exactly the same as the above. I take 'alarm' to mean it has a siren, and 'interior' to mean it has ultrasonic sensors near the rear view mirror. In my case, neither seem to work.

24th June 2008, 12:30	#114 (permalink)
alanwalne Civic gone, not forgotten Car: 08 Zafira 150 CDTi Join Date: 11th June 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 1,995 Thanks: 24 Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts iTrader: (2)	Has anyone whose alarms do not work have a copy of the PDI sheet for their car. Do they state the siren has to be activated? I know for a fact that in my SE the alarm uses the car horn. Memory serves that to be a CAT 1 alarm, it needs to have battery backup incase someone cuts the Battery cable. This may need an extra (hidden) siren. Perhaps part of the PDI in the UK is to turn on the siren as some markets may not have it activated.

24th June 2008, 12:52	#115 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 832 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm pretty sure I found the siren yesterday, it's on the RHS within the boot with the wiring stuff for reversing parking sensors. It was plugged in though.

24th June 2008, 13:22	#116 (permalink)
simon1 Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: UK Posts: 375 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	08 model SE 2.2 - Alarm works fine. It's just the horn and the indicators so I assume the SE has no siren as there is no interior sensors. Just to make sure we are doing this test right - the manual says that the alarm will not go on if the doors are unlocked with the key fob or the key itself. To test it, I got into the car and set the alarm, waited for the LED to flash slower (about 10 secs) and then opened the door by manually unlocking it from the inside. Worked fine.

24th June 2008, 13:27	#117 (permalink)
Smarty Join Date: 29th February 2008 Location: Worcester, UK Posts: 55 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm going to have to check my sport again tonight. Last night I tried to set the alarm off, all to no avail, no lights or siren. I've seen the light flashing inside so something is happening...