Electrics Check your alarm system - Page 8

Rich 11 · 25th June 2008, 12:01

Just got a call from my stealer..............................."Your car is ready sir " What was the problem ? " a loose connection sir "

Come to your own conclusions , I will check it works when I pick it up tonight !!!

philiphenderson · 25th June 2008, 12:49

Mine works fine.

Phil.

hurricane · 25th June 2008, 12:53

Just a quick update after finally getting my owner's manual in English (so much easier that trying to translate).

So, I stated earlier that the alarm did not go off if opening the driver's door with the key (not remote), and this is still correct and the way it should be.

However, how many of you use the "super locking" feature? Super locking is when you lock the car by pressing the lock button on the remote twice within 5 seconds (or turning the key in the lock twice). If the car is "super locked" then all locks inside the car are disabled (cannot be opened from inside so do not do this with someone in the car, well maybe kids

), and the only way to unlock is with the remote or the key. Cars with ultrasonic sensors: if you use the key to unlock "super locking", then the alarm will go off.

So, it is not an easy system, but reading the manual sometimes can really help...

Still not sure about the "siren" though, must be extra... lol

EDIT: "Siren" (or bleeper as it is referred to in the manual) is only on cars with the ultasonic sensor.

Smarty · 25th June 2008, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricane

Just a quick update after finally getting my owner's manual in English (so much easier that trying to translate).

So, I stated earlier that the alarm did not go off if opening the driver's door with the key (not remote), and this is still correct and the way it should be.

However, how many of you use the "super locking" feature? Super locking is when you lock the car by pressing the lock button on the remote twice within 5 seconds (or turning the key in the lock twice). If the car is "super locked" then all locks inside the car are disabled (cannot be opened from inside so do not do this with someone in the car, well maybe kids

), and the only way to unlock is with the remote or the key. Cars with ultrasonic sensors: if you use the key to unlock "super locking", then the alarm will go off.

So, it is not an easy system, but reading the manual sometimes can really help...

Still not sure about the "siren" though, must be extra... lol

so does that explain why my alarm wouldn't go off when I tried to unlock with the keys? I'm just as confused... I think...

hurricane · 25th June 2008, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty

so does that explain why my alarm wouldn't go off when I tried to unlock with the keys? I'm just as confused... I think...

It all depends whether you have the ultrasonic sensors or not...

Simon_F · 25th June 2008, 15:00

Just spoke to the dealer and it looks like the new siren and control box haven't resolved the issue.

They have put a new fuse box on from a different car - with a working alarm - which they believe has solved the fault. However, Honda arent happy with the warrenty claim/resolution and are sending a senior engineer down to inspect the car tomorrow!!!!

Maybe the number of sirens/control boxes being ordered has raised some eyebrows??

Oh - what fun!!! Lets see what tomorrow brings

Simon.

Rich 11 · 25th June 2008, 15:10

Deffo made HUK sit up according to my dealer , They suspect that repalcement boxs are also faulty..............watch this space !!

alanwalne · 26th June 2008, 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty

so does that explain why my alarm wouldn't go off when I tried to unlock with the keys? I'm just as confused... I think...

Sports (like the SE), do not have the CAT 1 alarm, so opening with the key will not activate the alarm.

On that point, at least Honda provide you with two full keys. My neighbour's C Max came with one full key and one without the remote. You cannot open the car with the 2nd key without setting the alarm off.

Smarty · 26th June 2008, 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwalne

Sports (like the SE), do not have the CAT 1 alarm, so opening with the key will not activate the alarm.

On that point, at least Honda provide you with two full keys. My neighbour's C Max came with one full key and one without the remote. You cannot open the car with the 2nd key without setting the alarm off.

On point 1, I thought the sport model only had one part of the alarm but didn't know whether key entry would do anything - obviously not.
As for the key issue, it seems pointless having one alarm key and one basic key. What happens if you lose the main one?

nic283 · 26th June 2008, 09:03

Ignore my poll result, my alarm does work! Sat in the car, locked the door and opened the bonnet. Hey presto, a honking horn!

A few days previously, I opened the door from the inside which didn't trigger the alarm. Should it have??

Rich 11 · 26th June 2008, 09:10

Pingu · 26th June 2008, 11:56

I have a Jan 06 model and my alarm works fine. Sat in the car and locked it, moved around and the alarm (not the horn) sounded. Also locked the car with the window down and waved my arm inside with same result. Using the key when it was locked made the indicators flash but using key when it was "double locked" sets off the alarm.

Simon_F · 26th June 2008, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon_F

Just spoke to the dealer and it looks like the new siren and control box haven't resolved the issue.

They have put a new fuse box on from a different car - with a working alarm - which they believe has solved the fault. However, Honda arent happy with the warrenty claim/resolution and are sending a senior engineer down to inspect the car tomorrow!!!!

Maybe the number of sirens/control boxes being ordered has raised some eyebrows??

Oh - what fun!!! Lets see what tomorrow brings

Simon.

Just spoke to the dealer and a Honda engineer and two representatives from the company that manufactur the fuse box have looked at the car.

Apparently, the alarm does work - but only once!!! Some problem with the fuse box means that when first connected to the battery it works - but only the once. Disconnecting the battery and reconnecting makes it work again - but again only once! This is probably why all the cars would have passed their PDI.

Annoyingly, despite trying two new, and presumably improved, fuse boxes on my car and proving that they work they wouldnt leave the part with the dealer

Its had to be ordered and should all be sorted tomorrow.

Lets hope so

Simon

PS you may have guessed from my post that I am not too technical when it comes to cars. So hopefully someone may come on with a fuller explanation!!!

Rich 11 · 26th June 2008, 12:17

The plot thickens

alanwalne · 26th June 2008, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty

On point 1, I thought the sport model only had one part of the alarm but didn't know whether key entry would do anything - obviously not.
As for the key issue, it seems pointless having one alarm key and one basic key. What happens if you lose the main one?

On the C Max Ghia, you can stop the alarm with the basic key by putting the key in the ignition, I can only assume that locking with the key will not fully arm the alarm. Can any one with a Civic ES or EX confirm if this is the same with the Civic?

cnicolini · 26th June 2008, 12:30

You've lost me! So is the problem with the fuse box or the alarms cpu box? Someone on here said that they had their siren and cpu replaced and this fixed the issue?

spile · 26th June 2008, 12:50

Please can someone post a "how to" on how to activate/test an alarm that will work for ALL models?
I have an SE.

x Dr Vodka x · 26th June 2008, 12:54

Mine works like a dream now...... I think we are getting lost a bit here.

If you lock your car with the remote (whilst out side the car), wait 1 minute (important). Now put your key in the lock and turn. This will trigger the alarm.

If you have sound and flashing lights = Good
If you have flashing lights and no sound = Bad
If you don’t have anything chances are you don’t have an alarm.

Now ultrasonic sensors.

Open drivers window, close door, lock with remote. Again wait 1 min. Wave hands around inside car.

If you have sound and flashing lights = Good
If you have flashing lights and no sound = Bad
If you don’t have anything chances are you don’t have an alarm

This is the official procedure to test the system.

alanwalne · 26th June 2008, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by x Dr Vodka x

Mine works like a dream now...... I think we are getting lost a bit here.

If you lock your car with the remote (whilst out side the car), wait 1 minute (important). Now put your key in the lock and turn. This will trigger the alarm.

If you have sound and flashing lights = Good
If you have flashing lights and no sound = Bad
If you don’t have anything chances are you don’t have an alarm.

Now ultrasonic sensors.

Open drivers window, close door, lock with remote. Again wait 1 min. Wave hands around inside car.

If you have sound and flashing lights = Good
If you have flashing lights and no sound = Bad
If you don’t have anything chances are you don’t have an alarm

This is the official procedure to test the system.

Unlocking the car with the Key after locking with the blipper only works on Cat 1 alarms (not SE or Sport).

The only sure fire test is to open the bonnet while sitting in a double locked car.

x Dr Vodka x · 26th June 2008, 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwalne

Unlocking the car with the Key after locking with the blipper only works on Cat 1 alarms (not SE or Sport).

The only sure fire test is to open the bonnet while sitting in a double locked car.

Thats odd, it should do as its an entry point, like bonnet, fuel filler and boot

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hurricane Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 22nd May 2008 Location: Kymenlaakso, Finland Posts: 210 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Alarm update - it pays to read the manual Just a quick update after finally getting my owner's manual in English (so much easier that trying to translate). So, I stated earlier that the alarm did not go off if opening the driver's door with the key (not remote), and this is still correct and the way it should be. However, how many of you use the "super locking" feature? Super locking is when you lock the car by pressing the lock button on the remote twice within 5 seconds (or turning the key in the lock twice). If the car is "super locked" then all locks inside the car are disabled (cannot be opened from inside so do not do this with someone in the car, well maybe kids ), and the only way to unlock is with the remote or the key. Cars with ultrasonic sensors: if you use the key to unlock "super locking", then the alarm will go off. So, it is not an easy system, but reading the manual sometimes can really help... Still not sure about the "siren" though, must be extra... lol EDIT: "Siren" (or bleeper as it is referred to in the manual) is only on cars with the ultasonic sensor. Last edited by hurricane; 25th June 2008 at 13:45.

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Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Rocketship door handle Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 1,208 Thanks: 10 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just got a call from my stealer..............................."Your car is ready sir " What was the problem ? " a loose connection sir " Come to your own conclusions , I will check it works when I pick it up tonight !!!

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philiphenderson Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th September 2007 Location: Tyne and Wear Posts: 118 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine works fine. Phil.

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Simon_F Valve Cap Join Date: 2nd June 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Just spoke to the dealer and it looks like the new siren and control box haven't resolved the issue. They have put a new fuse box on from a different car - with a working alarm - which they believe has solved the fault. However, Honda arent happy with the warrenty claim/resolution and are sending a senior engineer down to inspect the car tomorrow!!!! Maybe the number of sirens/control boxes being ordered has raised some eyebrows?? Oh - what fun!!! Lets see what tomorrow brings Simon.

25th June 2008, 15:10	#147 (permalink)
Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Rocketship door handle Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 1,208 Thanks: 10 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	Deffo made HUK sit up according to my dealer , They suspect that repalcement boxs are also faulty..............watch this space !!

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nic283 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 15th June 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ignore my poll result, my alarm does work! Sat in the car, locked the door and opened the bonnet. Hey presto, a honking horn! A few days previously, I opened the door from the inside which didn't trigger the alarm. Should it have??

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Pingu Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 20th December 2006 Location: Leicester, UK Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have a Jan 06 model and my alarm works fine. Sat in the car and locked it, moved around and the alarm (not the horn) sounded. Also locked the car with the window down and waved my arm inside with same result. Using the key when it was locked made the indicators flash but using key when it was "double locked" sets off the alarm.

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Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Rocketship door handle Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 1,208 Thanks: 10 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	The plot thickens

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cnicolini Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 550 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	You've lost me! So is the problem with the fuse box or the alarms cpu box? Someone on here said that they had their siren and cpu replaced and this fixed the issue?

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spile Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 15th January 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 194 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Please can someone post a "how to" on how to activate/test an alarm that will work for ALL models? I have an SE.

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x Dr Vodka x Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 12th May 2008 Location: Wigan Posts: 302 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine works like a dream now...... I think we are getting lost a bit here. If you lock your car with the remote (whilst out side the car), wait 1 minute (important). Now put your key in the lock and turn. This will trigger the alarm. If you have sound and flashing lights = Good If you have flashing lights and no sound = Bad If you don’t have anything chances are you don’t have an alarm. Now ultrasonic sensors. Open drivers window, close door, lock with remote. Again wait 1 min. Wave hands around inside car. If you have sound and flashing lights = Good If you have flashing lights and no sound = Bad If you don’t have anything chances are you don’t have an alarm This is the official procedure to test the system.