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Old 2nd July 2008, 09:45   #1 (permalink)
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Is my NHB actually sort of blue-ish?

While looking at the car in direct sunlight the other day I noticed that the color has a dark blue tone to it and is not all black like it's supposed to be. This becomes really annoying bacause of the fact that this blueish tone only appears on the metal parts of the bodywork. The parts that are in plastic are pitch black even in the sun. You can really see the difference in tone by looking at where the rear wheel arch part of the bodywork (metal) meets with the rear bumper (plastic). Is it supposed to be this way or is this a sign of a layer of paint thats too thin?

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Old 2nd July 2008, 09:59   #2 (permalink)
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NHB is pearlescent, with a blue fleck that is very noticeable in certain light conditions.

Personally I really like it because it takes away the flat black look you get with regular paint jobs.

Must say I haven't noticed any discernable difference between the metal bodywork and the bumpers. Must have a closer look. (Or maybe I shouldn't if it's gonna start annoying me )
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Old 2nd July 2008, 10:10   #3 (permalink)
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I love the blue flecks in the pearlescent paint too. To me it doesn't seem to give the whole car a bluish sheen just shows up as irridescent blue flecks all over.

Also have never noticed any visible difference between the plastic and metal parts of the car.

Will have a look on the next sunny day. Hopefully there will be at least one more before the end of the summer
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Old 2nd July 2008, 10:29   #4 (permalink)
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oh you gotta love the blueish dots... as mentioned above, doesnt make it look so flat and well JUST black paint.
I think it looks classy and another great characteristic to the car...
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The bluish dots make it look that bit different, my first BM was metallic black and it never looked as good as my NHB does now.

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I just love those blue flecks. Love it when the sun shines.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:11   #7 (permalink)
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I just love those blue flecks. Love it when the sun shines.
said with such love....
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well it would appear that the blue part is a nice extra to the NHB paint. It still bugs me a bit that the colour of the plastic parts don't match with the rest. However since I live in Göteborg we don't see that many sunny days each year so I guess It's not such a big deal anyway Thanks alot for the answers guys. I'm going to the dealer later today on another issue, to show him the how the black backing is coming away slightly from the plastic of the rear window and it shows up as a grey bubble. So I can mention the colour mismatch in direct sunlight of the plastic details and see what he makes of it.
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May be different paint batches, or a repair at the dealer before you collected, that has happened before.

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I just wish the blue flake was more obvious.

Parked next to a black Fiesta at the weekend and even though both cars were dirty the Fordie still glittered.

IMHO NHB is a total waste of money as it's only metallic under extreme sunlight and even then the swirls and orange peel detract from the effect that it would give.

I wish I had saved the £300 odd quid and gone for Milano.
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Do you wax yours a lot??? If so it may be your wax thats ruining the colour, as some waxes are actually not designed for metallic, and therefore actually conceal the glitter of the metallic.

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I love this quote by Big-Chris from a very old thread: Nice to be here...

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'...and when it's sunny and the blue flecks sparkle like stars in our glorious black automobiles, '
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Sounds like something out of the bible:

"And on the seventh day Jesus did come down from the mount and admire his shiny black civic, with it's gorious blue speckles, although even the son of our Lord and saviour was not immune to stone chips from the thin paint"........He took it to Honda who said there wasn't a problem....Here endeth the lesson [Is blasphemy still punishable by whipping????]

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The paintwork on the metal and on the plastic never will be 100% same. Because
the wokflow of the paint is different on the metal and on the plastic. I heard about the "painter guy" at the honda salon: in the factory , they put the metal car-body into the "oven" (i don't know the proper english word) and the paint will be hard on the metal. They use water base paint on the plastic.
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Sounds like something out of the bible:

"And on the seventh day Jesus did come down from the mount and admire his shiny black civic, with it's gorious blue speckles, although even the son of our Lord and saviour was not immune to stone chips from the thin paint"........He took it to Honda who said there wasn't a problem....Here endeth the lesson [Is blasphemy still punishable by whipping????]

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Yes Tom it is indeed blasphemy......we all know he'd have had a Milano one.
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Hehehehe, he'd actually have a bronze one, it'd be sun-tanned after he'd driven it to Arimethea.....

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The paintwork on the metal and on the plastic never will be 100% same. Because
the wokflow of the paint is different on the metal and on the plastic. I heard about the "painter guy" at the honda salon: in the factory , they put the metal car-body into the "oven" (i don't know the proper english word) and the paint will be hard on the metal. They use water base paint on the plastic.
Asked the dealer about this and it would seem that what you are saying is correct. Nothing to do about it apparently. We also looked at some other cars in the lot outside of the dealer but none where NHB, couldnt see this colour difference on the other colours.
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I was told that the bumpers are painted on a different "line" and often there are match up problems - according to the bodyshop manager the worst is Milano for matching "under certain light conditions".....

I have a new colour on my Type R.....

Honda Hyperspace Black....

Lots of white dots expanding rapidly.....
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The hyperspace option is important ("must have") accessory for the spaceship
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I was told that the bumpers are painted on a different "line" and often there are match up problems - according to the bodyshop manager the worst is Milano for matching "under certain light conditions".....

I have a new colour on my Type R.....

Honda Hyperspace Black....

Lots of white dots expanding rapidly.....
Ask any paint guys and they'll say the same, the 'solid' colours are always harder to match due to the lack of 'depth' in the paint.

A very basic comparison would be....

Imagine a bath full of red emulsion paint, thats your milano red, you only 'see' the top of the paintwork.

Imagine the same bath but full of water with a deep black die in it and thousands of bits of foil. Thats NHB, you not only see the surface but can see 'into' the paint and the flecks of foil give it the shimmer.

With pearl effect paints, the foil is replaced with millions of minute, slightly different coloured spheres which then give it the shimmer effect.
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