Brakes Loud metalic click under braking

fennj · 23rd July 2008, 16:47

Has anyone experienced a loud metalic click under braking and then again when moving off, this happens all the time to mine now but was just under hard braking before. I can actually feel the click in drivers seat too.

It's booked in on Friday for this to be checked out and have the handbrake reacall at the same time, I'll post the outcome. In the mean time does anyone know what it may be and if it's a poetentially dangerous fault ?

FWH · 23rd July 2008, 16:49

At first I thought it may be a stone stuck in the brakes, but re-reading it does not really sound like that...

Is it a "metalic" click?

fennj · 23rd July 2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWH

At first I thought it may be a stone stuck in the brakes, but re-reading it does not really sound like that...

Is it a "metalic" click?

Yes it's a metalic click with a single vibration. Worrying.

Unknownsoldier · 23rd July 2008, 17:38

Sounds almost like b-pad sticking...

Tom

fennj · 23rd July 2008, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Sounds almost like b-pad sticking...

Tom

Every time I brake ?

Unknownsoldier · 23rd July 2008, 18:31

Hmmmm, maybe it is sticking and unsticking???

Tom

Essexboy · 23rd July 2008, 19:14

Could be the sub frame, mine was starting to do it and it went in to have that fixed...

bassplayapaul938 · 23rd July 2008, 19:23

fennj - how often do you drive your car? does it get parked up for any lenght of time? and exposed the weather?

Russell 10 · 24th July 2008, 06:46

This is quite a common problem. My wifes 1.8 se had exactly the same noise. There is a bolt that goes through the cross member into the front sub frame. This bolt works loose. It's located just left of the drivers feet, obviously under the car.

fennj · 24th July 2008, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell 10

This is quite a common problem. My wifes 1.8 se had exactly the same noise. There is a bolt that goes through the cross member into the front sub frame. This bolt works loose. It's located just left of the drivers feet, obviously under the car.

That makes sense as although it happens under braking it almost feels like it's in the cab I'm going to explain to the dealers what you have said. If it's a common fault they should already know really and check it on the service.

I'll post the outcome.

DeanFYoung · 24th July 2008, 10:27

This is interesting, as I get this too, but only under hard braking, and hard acceleration (following the hard braking) - very disconcerting noise - always makes me stop pratting around though (which is probably a good thing

).

It's quite a distinct noise isn't it - problem with it, it that it is loud enough to grab your attention, and thinking something is then about to fall off!!

DeanFYoung · 24th July 2008, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell 10

This is quite a common problem. My wifes 1.8 se had exactly the same noise. There is a bolt that goes through the cross member into the front sub frame. This bolt works loose. It's located just left of the drivers feet, obviously under the car.

Do you have any pictures?? Is this something I could adjust myself or does it need to go to the garage??

lloeki · 24th July 2008, 10:53

mine was fixed by greasing a certain part of the subframe, as touching only screws made either the problem better or worse, but never fixed. see following thread for the story.

Please Any Ideas? Knock/Creak/Tap from Front!

I have the bulletin at hand with pictures and all if one wants. I guess someone should definitely drop it on the wiki.

Pottsy · 24th July 2008, 11:19

fennj,

This is most likely to be the subframe fault: Suspension noise diagnosis - Civinfo Wiki

Woette · 24th July 2008, 11:27

could it be that your brake pads have worn out?

i read in the manual that we have acoustic brakes and when brake pads are almost completely worn, we can hear a metalic noise coming from the brakes (when applying them) signaling a replacement

grtz

DeanFYoung · 24th July 2008, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woette

could it be that your brake pads have worn out?

i read in the manual that we have acoustic brakes and when brake pads are almost completely worn, we can hear a metalic noise coming from the brakes (when applying them) signaling a replacement

grtz

No - the acoustic brakes will make a continous noise for as long as you are braking. You may also feel something though the brake pedal...???

fennj · 24th July 2008, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

fennj,

This is most likely to be the subframe fault: Suspension noise diagnosis - Civinfo Wiki

Thanks. I've printed the item and will be taking it with me to the dealers tomorrow. I have mentioned it before, on the last service, but they " couldn't replicate the fault" How many times have I heard that !

fennj · 25th July 2008, 18:35

Cured. It was the sub frame bolt on the right hand side but the dealer corrected both just in case, he said that this involved packing the bolts with grease and the washers were replaced.

The dealer had never heard of the fault so I presented him with a print out from the wiki. He thanked me upon his return and had found it on Honda's bulletin.

With the hand brake recall also done I shouldn't see the dealer again until the next service. I hope !

Thanks to all for the advice you're a knowledgeable lot.

SaxWan · 18th August 2008, 15:20

Hello there,

Im having this same problem. Got a booking next friday where the mechanic has agreed to sit in whilst I recreate the noise (this will not be a problem!), but they maintain that they haven't heard of this bulletin. Is there anyway I can point them the right way so that they don't faff around for ages whilst the problem gets worse and worse? Anyone get a copy of that bulletin? Sounds like something confidential.

Wish me luck!

Sax

PS going to Johnson's Honda of Beaconsfield... hope theyre ok!

SaxWan · 23rd August 2008, 22:42

Update:

After calling the dealer and explaining my circumstances and symptoms, they said that they could simply not advise the repair needed and book me in for it... Fair enough. Even after I asked about the bulletin, they claimed ignorance.

So they agreed that they would get a mechanic to sit in and ride with me and try and diagnose it. When I turn up during my prescious lunch hour for this check, the woman sat me down for 15 mins, returned later saying "Yep, we've heard of this problem, we'll book a repair in for next tues..."

ARGH! Why couldnt they have done that over the phone?! they didnt even look at my car, ***. Am not impressed with them, thats definately a bad start.

end rant.

Problem is meant to be sorted by taking those screws apart and re-greasing etc. I am suspiscious that this will only be temporary, but I guess I have to just trust it'll work!

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,037 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 62 Posts iTrader: (0)	At first I thought it may be a stone stuck in the brakes, but re-reading it does not really sound like that... Is it a "metalic" click?

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Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,593 Thanks: 62 Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hmmmm, maybe it is sticking and unsticking??? Tom

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Essexboy Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 9th June 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Could be the sub frame, mine was starting to do it and it went in to have that fixed...

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bassplayapaul938 Valve Cap Join Date: 7th May 2008 Location: dundee, uk Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	fennj - how often do you drive your car? does it get parked up for any lenght of time? and exposed the weather?

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Russell 10 Wheelnut Join Date: 24th December 2006 Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	This is quite a common problem. My wifes 1.8 se had exactly the same noise. There is a bolt that goes through the cross member into the front sub frame. This bolt works loose. It's located just left of the drivers feet, obviously under the car.

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DeanFYoung Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 19th June 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 572 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	This is interesting, as I get this too, but only under hard braking, and hard acceleration (following the hard braking) - very disconcerting noise - always makes me stop pratting around though (which is probably a good thing ). It's quite a distinct noise isn't it - problem with it, it that it is loud enough to grab your attention, and thinking something is then about to fall off!!

24th July 2008, 10:53	#13 (permalink)
lloeki Wheelnut Join Date: 17th September 2007 Location: France Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	mine was fixed by greasing a certain part of the subframe, as touching only screws made either the problem better or worse, but never fixed. see following thread for the story. Please Any Ideas? Knock/Creak/Tap from Front! I have the bulletin at hand with pictures and all if one wants. I guess someone should definitely drop it on the wiki.

24th July 2008, 11:19	#14 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,481 Thanks: 22 Thanked 167 Times in 98 Posts iTrader: (0)	fennj, This is most likely to be the subframe fault: Suspension noise diagnosis - Civinfo Wiki

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Woette Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: Leuven, Belgium Posts: 329 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	could it be that your brake pads have worn out? i read in the manual that we have acoustic brakes and when brake pads are almost completely worn, we can hear a metalic noise coming from the brakes (when applying them) signaling a replacement grtz

25th July 2008, 18:35	#18 (permalink)
fennj Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 20th April 2007 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 178 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Cured. It was the sub frame bolt on the right hand side but the dealer corrected both just in case, he said that this involved packing the bolts with grease and the washers were replaced. The dealer had never heard of the fault so I presented him with a print out from the wiki. He thanked me upon his return and had found it on Honda's bulletin. With the hand brake recall also done I shouldn't see the dealer again until the next service. I hope ! Thanks to all for the advice you're a knowledgeable lot.

18th August 2008, 15:20	#19 (permalink)
SaxWan Valve Cap Join Date: 14th August 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hello there, Im having this same problem. Got a booking next friday where the mechanic has agreed to sit in whilst I recreate the noise (this will not be a problem!), but they maintain that they haven't heard of this bulletin. Is there anyway I can point them the right way so that they don't faff around for ages whilst the problem gets worse and worse? Anyone get a copy of that bulletin? Sounds like something confidential. Wish me luck! Sax PS going to Johnson's Honda of Beaconsfield... hope theyre ok!

23rd August 2008, 22:42	#20 (permalink)
SaxWan Valve Cap Join Date: 14th August 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Update: After calling the dealer and explaining my circumstances and symptoms, they said that they could simply not advise the repair needed and book me in for it... Fair enough. Even after I asked about the bulletin, they claimed ignorance. So they agreed that they would get a mechanic to sit in and ride with me and try and diagnose it. When I turn up during my prescious lunch hour for this check, the woman sat me down for 15 mins, returned later saying "Yep, we've heard of this problem, we'll book a repair in for next tues..." ARGH! Why couldnt they have done that over the phone?! they didnt even look at my car, ***. Am not impressed with them, thats definately a bad start. end rant. Problem is meant to be sorted by taking those screws apart and re-greasing etc. I am suspiscious that this will only be temporary, but I guess I have to just trust it'll work!