Squeaks A Mass of Dash Rattles! - Page 3

Wheelchair · 19th August 2008, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd Honda

My previous Civic was a 1.7 coupe - 03 reg, and a really excellent car, built in the USA. Far better built than my 06 reg CTDI 5 door - FAR FAR better. I traded it in (and later came to regret that) at 30,000 miles and never a single fault other than punctures/wheel balance. No rattles, no creaks, good auto box, sensitive good radio, never a flat battery, no handbrake issues, lovely high quality paint, hard wearing solid fit interior ..... just a really well made car.

Why didn't you keep it?

MrLoz · 19th August 2008, 20:36

I really think these rattles are down to the dashboard design and the different materials used in it. Also I think the weather plays a massive part in the rattles etc. Compare a hot day to a cold wet day. On a hot days the materials in your car, plastics, metals, glass etc expand and tighten up. On a cool or cold day they shrink and hence rattle, squeak and make other strange noises.

I dread to think what my car will be like in the winter with frosty mornings. But then again maybe due to the temperature differential, i.e. cold outside and warm inside due to engine temperature and heating the rattles etc won’t be too bad.

Just my opinion, maybe some one on this amazing site is a materials expert that could correct my theory!!

In my opinion I would rather drive a spaceship with its rattles and quirks than a boring rep-mobill or other car with a dashboard developed in the 1970's that has had so much testing that it quiet but boring....

Maybe we could do a poll on Do you think rattles are worse A On a hot day or B on a cold day C on a wet day etc..

Loz

Wheelchair · 19th August 2008, 20:38

Good point, temperature plays a big part.

3rd Honda · 19th August 2008, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelchair

Why didn't you keep it?

I wish I had! There were several reasons I moved to the 06 ctdi, I suppose in order being;

Wanted/needed a hatchback/estate
Wanted 4/5 doors
Wanted a diesel
Loved the new shape/design

The only reservation I had at the time was that there was no diesel auto option.

After 2 years I knew the 06 ctdi didn't suit me, had too many (admittedly minor) problems, no auto, and the novelty of the design had also, I suppose, worn off too. Hence I traded in.

damianscott71 · 19th August 2008, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd Honda

After 2 years I knew the 06 ctdi didn't suit me, had too many (admittedly minor) problems, no auto, and the novelty of the design had also, I suppose, worn off too. Hence I traded in.

Hi 3rd Honda, Is the Beemer new or did you buy used? Either way, I expect there was a hefty outlay on your behalf!

I think a 335d is my dream car. All that power, and 2 turbo's to tinker with..... Ahh bliss! Remapped, they're a distinct threat to an M3!

Pacarcher · 19th August 2008, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamthestig

By the way... have our paths crossed before on a certain "C" forum? seem to know your user name ....

I think they probably have

I can't imagine anyone else having a username such as mine, and I did/still do belong to the aforementioned "C" forum

Temperature is a huge with regard to rattles and squeaks, the temperature change that a car interior has to deal with is huge.

CivicLover_BE · 20th August 2008, 07:04

Hi,

Had the same problem with my new civic, went to the dealer, they removed the dash and sorted out what was making the irritating noise (even on smooth roads), since then all is fine and the drive is far more pleasant. Let your dealer sort it out, you paid good money for a good car without rattles.

Grtz,

G.

Wheelchair · 20th August 2008, 11:17

If it gets worse I will take it back to the dealer, hopefully it wont!

J. Derek Riddell · 20th August 2008, 12:16

Eh what ? - you're all thinking ! ...

" Shakes, rattles and rolls " ... none of which I have ...

(Sorry, just had to have a tiny 'gloat', as I've no "EPS", so far !) ...

roach3 · 21st August 2008, 06:34

Gotta agree bout temperature as ive only had my CTRGT 3 weeks with no rattles, drove home from work this morning to be greeted by a annoying squeek from behind the dash.

temp at 6 this morning was registering at 8 degrees, the coldest since ive had it. drove to work last night with no noises

BTW my previous was an 04 accord exec which had an annoying rattle from the roof trim which i cured by sticking a 2 pence piece in the gap between the sunroof and trim

Wheelchair · 21st August 2008, 08:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by roach3

BTW my previous was an 04 accord exec which had an annoying rattle from the roof trim which i cured by sticking a 2 pence piece in the gap between the sunroof and trim

That was a cheap fix!

Fb77 · 22nd August 2008, 19:27

Hi all,

I've been suffering from rattles too. In my numerous trips to the dealer, they've padded the dash, and fixed a problem with the suspension. I still get a slight rubbing noise between the dash and the windscreen. I told the servicing manager this, but he was convinced it was the suspension.

I only get the noise when the car is cold, so, in this weather, it takes 10-20 minutes of air con + driving to get it to work.

Needless to say, it pretty much always behaves when the car is roadtested.

I'm pretty much at the end of my tether. I'm just thinking about getting rid, which is a real shame, as I'm Honda through and through.

I love and hate my car, all at the same time.

anti-rsca · 22nd August 2008, 20:07

If you put pressure on your dash with your hand, does the rattle stop?

MrLoz · 22nd August 2008, 21:00

If I put pressure on the dash around the CD player area the main rattle seams to stop. 2.2 EX

Wheelchair · 22nd August 2008, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLoz

If I put pressure on the dash around the CD player area the main rattle seams to stop. 2.2 EX

I will give that a try too.

Kremmen · 23rd August 2008, 06:50

What surprises me is that Wheelchair's car is fairly new? I would have thought that by now they knew all the likely problem rattle areas and have fixed them with extra padding?

or

Because the 1.4's are not as popular, is it an early build been lying around?

anti-rsca · 23rd August 2008, 07:31

My car is 3 weeks old and it also has a lot of rattles in the dash.

MrLoz too bad the dash rattles so far from the window, otherwise you could pad it yourself, but to stop that rattle, you'll probably have to disassemble the whole dash

Wheelchair · 23rd August 2008, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Because the 1.4's are not as popular, is it an early build been lying around?

No, it was a new build, I always make sure of this before purchasing a car.

Personally I think the suspension is mainly to blame, way too hard.

Kremmen · 23rd August 2008, 10:03

It is too hard for my liking as well, but, mine is a March 2007, done nearly 16K, and I have no rattles.

"We've had no complaints about dashboard rattles so start taking some packing out to save money" ?

Fb77 · 23rd August 2008, 11:51

Hi all,

Latest update on my car:

Firstly, I used to get noise (creaking from the rear) on pulling off my drive (from overnight), and traveling over any irregular bumps (i.e. speed bumps). This was fixed yesterday. There was a rubber stopper (bump stop?) which had come loose within the suspension. Sorted.

The windscreen/dash rattle continues, but some work was done to pack the area between the dash and the windscreen. This changed, but did not fix the noise. I get the noise especially on poor surfaces, traveling at slow speed.

The dealer has conceded that the windscreen/dash fitting needs to be looked at. I'll hear on Tuesday as to when they will whip my screen out, and, hopefully fix this.

I'm feeling like there may be light at the end of the tunnel.

I do agree that the stiff suspension doesn't help if there is the potential for interior rattles.

I hope you all get some joy from your dealers, and fingers crossed my car will be rattle free by the end of next week.

19th August 2008, 20:36	#42 (permalink)
MrLoz Supporter Join Date: 19th July 2008 Location: Crowborough Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Rattles on a cold or hot day I really think these rattles are down to the dashboard design and the different materials used in it. Also I think the weather plays a massive part in the rattles etc. Compare a hot day to a cold wet day. On a hot days the materials in your car, plastics, metals, glass etc expand and tighten up. On a cool or cold day they shrink and hence rattle, squeak and make other strange noises. I dread to think what my car will be like in the winter with frosty mornings. But then again maybe due to the temperature differential, i.e. cold outside and warm inside due to engine temperature and heating the rattles etc won’t be too bad. Just my opinion, maybe some one on this amazing site is a materials expert that could correct my theory!! In my opinion I would rather drive a spaceship with its rattles and quirks than a boring rep-mobill or other car with a dashboard developed in the 1970's that has had so much testing that it quiet but boring.... Maybe we could do a poll on Do you think rattles are worse A On a hot day or B on a cold day C on a wet day etc.. Loz

20th August 2008, 12:16	#49 (permalink)
J. Derek Riddell [ ! WIBBLE - WIBBLE ! ] Join Date: 8th November 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 3,687 Thanks: 67 Thanked 175 Times in 170 Posts iTrader: (2)	Elvis Presley Syndrome ... Eh what ? - you're all thinking ! ... " Shakes, rattles and rolls " ... none of which I have ... (Sorry, just had to have a tiny 'gloat', as I've no "EPS", so far !) ...

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19th August 2008, 20:38	#43 (permalink)
Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Thread starter Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,257 Thanks: 77 Thanked 402 Times in 387 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good point, temperature plays a big part.

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CivicLover_BE Join Date: 14th April 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi, Had the same problem with my new civic, went to the dealer, they removed the dash and sorted out what was making the irritating noise (even on smooth roads), since then all is fine and the drive is far more pleasant. Let your dealer sort it out, you paid good money for a good car without rattles. Grtz, G.

20th August 2008, 11:17	#48 (permalink)
Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Thread starter Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,257 Thanks: 77 Thanked 402 Times in 387 Posts iTrader: (0)	If it gets worse I will take it back to the dealer, hopefully it wont!

21st August 2008, 06:34	#50 (permalink)
roach3 Join Date: 5th July 2008 Location: manchester uk Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Gotta agree bout temperature as ive only had my CTRGT 3 weeks with no rattles, drove home from work this morning to be greeted by a annoying squeek from behind the dash. temp at 6 this morning was registering at 8 degrees, the coldest since ive had it. drove to work last night with no noises BTW my previous was an 04 accord exec which had an annoying rattle from the roof trim which i cured by sticking a 2 pence piece in the gap between the sunroof and trim

22nd August 2008, 19:27	#52 (permalink)
Fb77 Join Date: 20th February 2008 Location: Bognor Regis, UK Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi all, I've been suffering from rattles too. In my numerous trips to the dealer, they've padded the dash, and fixed a problem with the suspension. I still get a slight rubbing noise between the dash and the windscreen. I told the servicing manager this, but he was convinced it was the suspension. I only get the noise when the car is cold, so, in this weather, it takes 10-20 minutes of air con + driving to get it to work. Needless to say, it pretty much always behaves when the car is roadtested. I'm pretty much at the end of my tether. I'm just thinking about getting rid, which is a real shame, as I'm Honda through and through. I love and hate my car, all at the same time.

22nd August 2008, 20:07	#53 (permalink)
anti-rsca Supporter Car: Aug 2008 i-DSi, 5 door, NHB Join Date: 14th July 2008 Location: Laarne, Belgium, Europe, Earth, Solar system, Galaxy, Universe Posts: 288 Thanks: 17 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	If you put pressure on your dash with your hand, does the rattle stop?

22nd August 2008, 21:00	#54 (permalink)
MrLoz Supporter Join Date: 19th July 2008 Location: Crowborough Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	If I put pressure on the dash around the CD player area the main rattle seams to stop. 2.2 EX

23rd August 2008, 06:50	#56 (permalink)
Kremmen Skid Mark Car: 2009 1.8 ES GT Auto Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 4,683 Thanks: 42 Thanked 78 Times in 74 Posts iTrader: (0)	What surprises me is that Wheelchair's car is fairly new? I would have thought that by now they knew all the likely problem rattle areas and have fixed them with extra padding? or Because the 1.4's are not as popular, is it an early build been lying around?

23rd August 2008, 07:31	#57 (permalink)
anti-rsca Supporter Car: Aug 2008 i-DSi, 5 door, NHB Join Date: 14th July 2008 Location: Laarne, Belgium, Europe, Earth, Solar system, Galaxy, Universe Posts: 288 Thanks: 17 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	My car is 3 weeks old and it also has a lot of rattles in the dash. MrLoz too bad the dash rattles so far from the window, otherwise you could pad it yourself, but to stop that rattle, you'll probably have to disassemble the whole dash

23rd August 2008, 10:03	#59 (permalink)
Kremmen Skid Mark Car: 2009 1.8 ES GT Auto Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 4,683 Thanks: 42 Thanked 78 Times in 74 Posts iTrader: (0)	It is too hard for my liking as well, but, mine is a March 2007, done nearly 16K, and I have no rattles. "We've had no complaints about dashboard rattles so start taking some packing out to save money" ?

23rd August 2008, 11:51	#60 (permalink)
Fb77 Join Date: 20th February 2008 Location: Bognor Regis, UK Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi all, Latest update on my car: Firstly, I used to get noise (creaking from the rear) on pulling off my drive (from overnight), and traveling over any irregular bumps (i.e. speed bumps). This was fixed yesterday. There was a rubber stopper (bump stop?) which had come loose within the suspension. Sorted. The windscreen/dash rattle continues, but some work was done to pack the area between the dash and the windscreen. This changed, but did not fix the noise. I get the noise especially on poor surfaces, traveling at slow speed. The dealer has conceded that the windscreen/dash fitting needs to be looked at. I'll hear on Tuesday as to when they will whip my screen out, and, hopefully fix this. I'm feeling like there may be light at the end of the tunnel. I do agree that the stiff suspension doesn't help if there is the potential for interior rattles. I hope you all get some joy from your dealers, and fingers crossed my car will be rattle free by the end of next week.