Electrics yellow exclamation on startup

Team · 8th October 2008, 09:41

Mornin,

I have an annoying issue, when starting the engine on my 2.2 diesel I get a yellow exclamation in a circle in the central rev counter display and a bong sound and the little i light comes on.. stays on for about a second then goes off. the car starts and drives normally is it anything to worry about? or is it just a feature?

it does not happen everytime I start it usually from cold.. or if its been sat on an angle..

Cheers

Wheelchair · 8th October 2008, 09:43

Should tell you in the owners manual.

Dimplyred · 8th October 2008, 09:43

Take it back to your dealer, it possibly will have logged some error codes which they will be able to use to diagnose the problem.

vassilis · 27th February 2009, 11:24

I do have the same "feature" no errors logged according the dealer.
any update?

Pottsy · 27th February 2009, 11:37

It's normal and nothing to worry about (so long as the light goes off). If it stays on then there is a fault.

Team · 27th February 2009, 11:37

No nothing really to report.. Dealer said the same thing to me 'we've never heard of that before' followed by 'there are no worrying error codes logged' mine doesn't do it as often now probably once every couple of weeks if that..

f.ss.t · 27th February 2009, 11:46

could be the steering wheel being locked

HondaRob · 27th February 2009, 17:31

Hi,

I have the same problem, started about 3 months ago, no fault reported by dealer.

I am pretty sure its the power steering light that flashes on and off, and seems to be first start after an overnight stop.

Not so sure that its normal, but bow to greater knowledge...!

HondaRob · 2nd March 2009, 10:21

Update,

Its not the power steering light that flashes on and off, it is the VSA - again seems to be the first start after an overnight/long stop.

J4MMY · 2nd March 2009, 12:31

I'm getting the same problem with my 2006 2.2 Diesel. I get the yellow exclamation in the display with "check system" it only happens occasionally when I first start the car. It comes on for a few seconds then goes out. I took it into Honda last week and they plugged into the diagnostic computer. The service guy was telling me there are that many error codes coming up they would need to take the car in for a day and strip it down and it wouldn't be covered under warranty. At £80 an hour that could be a very expensive fault finding mission. I don't know if they are just trying it on.

I asked them for a list of the errors that are coming up but they seem a bit reluctant to give them to me.

Pottsy · 2nd March 2009, 13:13

Is the car out of warranty?

J4MMY · 2nd March 2009, 13:22

Warranty runs out on the 17th this month. As my car was involved in an accident. (very minor wing and bumper damage) a while back Honda are saying the faults are related to that.

I had an issue with the battery going flat a couple of weeks ago and they fixed that under warranty as they mentioned there was a bulletin regarding the battery being drained when the key had been removed from the iginition.

I spoke to them again this morning and they said it could be an earthing problem.

The warning comes on momentarily when the engine starts up amd sometimes it doesn't come on at all. The only thing that got me spooked was when they plugged it in and said it came up with loads of errors.

Pottsy · 2nd March 2009, 14:03

If the light goes off, then I wouldn't worry about it. And likewise the errors can all be just recording a momentary fault - like the deliberate disconnection of a wire while it was being fixed.

If the car is driving fine, with no light on, then I'd just relax about it.

J4MMY · 2nd March 2009, 14:15

Thanks for the reassurance. I think I will spend my cash getting some 18" blades and tyres than getting honda chasing around looking for a fault that probably isn't there and charging me £80 an hour!

marcwicks · 2nd March 2009, 14:58

Hey Team and J4MMY, I also have the same issue and have searched the forums several times to see if anyone else has this issue and/or a solution.

My reading tells me that so long as the warning light goes out again then there is nothing to worry about. It's put down to the load on the battery when starting the engine from cold. The load on the battery trips a sensor temporarily.

I am not aware Honda UK have a solution to this, but am prepared to be told otherwise.

Marc

Wheelchair · 2nd March 2009, 15:00

Its just one of those Civic oddities we all know and love!

J4MMY · 2nd March 2009, 15:07

Hi Marc,

Like you say Honda don't seem to have a solution for this. I'm reassured by Pottsy and your explanantion that this is just one of those annoying issues as long as the warning goes out and you have no other warning lights on the dash it's not worth worrying about.

I'm certainly not going to let the dealer have it for a full day at £80.

Thanks

8th October 2008, 09:41	#1 (permalink)
Team Join Date: 18th May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 16 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	yellow exclamation on startup Mornin, I have an annoying issue, when starting the engine on my 2.2 diesel I get a yellow exclamation in a circle in the central rev counter display and a bong sound and the little i light comes on.. stays on for about a second then goes off. the car starts and drives normally is it anything to worry about? or is it just a feature? it does not happen everytime I start it usually from cold.. or if its been sat on an angle.. Cheers

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Dimplyred Super Moderator Car: M200 Type R Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire & Cheshire Posts: 21,085 Thanks given: 202 Thanked 1,594 Times in 1,426 Posts iTrader: (8)	Take it back to your dealer, it possibly will have logged some error codes which they will be able to use to diagnose the problem.

27th February 2009, 11:24	#4 (permalink)
vassilis Car: 2006 1.8 5 door, Galaxy grey Join Date: 15th November 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 14 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I do have the same "feature" no errors logged according the dealer. any update?

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Pottsy Administrator Car: Jag XF 3.0 Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 12,342 Thanks given: 127 Thanked 2,274 Times in 776 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's normal and nothing to worry about (so long as the light goes off). If it stays on then there is a fault.

27th February 2009, 11:37	#6 (permalink)
Team Thread starter Join Date: 18th May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 16 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	No nothing really to report.. Dealer said the same thing to me 'we've never heard of that before' followed by 'there are no worrying error codes logged' mine doesn't do it as often now probably once every couple of weeks if that..

27th February 2009, 11:46	#7 (permalink)
f.ss.t Supporter Car: HIGHLY modified FN1 Join Date: 10th September 2007 Location: liverpool / manchester these days Posts: 1,578 Thanks given: 48 Thanked 33 Times in 33 Posts iTrader: (2)	could be the steering wheel being locked

27th February 2009, 17:31	#8 (permalink)
HondaRob Join Date: 4th May 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 98 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi, I have the same problem, started about 3 months ago, no fault reported by dealer. I am pretty sure its the power steering light that flashes on and off, and seems to be first start after an overnight stop. Not so sure that its normal, but bow to greater knowledge...!

2nd March 2009, 10:21	#9 (permalink)
HondaRob Join Date: 4th May 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 98 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Update, Its not the power steering light that flashes on and off, it is the VSA - again seems to be the first start after an overnight/long stop.

2nd March 2009, 12:31	#10 (permalink)
J4MMY Join Date: 16th January 2009 Location: UK Posts: 59 Thanks given: 11 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (2)	I'm getting the same problem with my 2006 2.2 Diesel. I get the yellow exclamation in the display with "check system" it only happens occasionally when I first start the car. It comes on for a few seconds then goes out. I took it into Honda last week and they plugged into the diagnostic computer. The service guy was telling me there are that many error codes coming up they would need to take the car in for a day and strip it down and it wouldn't be covered under warranty. At £80 an hour that could be a very expensive fault finding mission. I don't know if they are just trying it on. I asked them for a list of the errors that are coming up but they seem a bit reluctant to give them to me.

2nd March 2009, 13:13	#11 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Car: Jag XF 3.0 Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 12,342 Thanks given: 127 Thanked 2,274 Times in 776 Posts iTrader: (0)	Is the car out of warranty?

2nd March 2009, 13:22	#12 (permalink)
J4MMY Join Date: 16th January 2009 Location: UK Posts: 59 Thanks given: 11 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (2)	Warranty runs out on the 17th this month. As my car was involved in an accident. (very minor wing and bumper damage) a while back Honda are saying the faults are related to that. I had an issue with the battery going flat a couple of weeks ago and they fixed that under warranty as they mentioned there was a bulletin regarding the battery being drained when the key had been removed from the iginition. I spoke to them again this morning and they said it could be an earthing problem. The warning comes on momentarily when the engine starts up amd sometimes it doesn't come on at all. The only thing that got me spooked was when they plugged it in and said it came up with loads of errors.

2nd March 2009, 14:03	#13 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Car: Jag XF 3.0 Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 12,342 Thanks given: 127 Thanked 2,274 Times in 776 Posts iTrader: (0)	If the light goes off, then I wouldn't worry about it. And likewise the errors can all be just recording a momentary fault - like the deliberate disconnection of a wire while it was being fixed. If the car is driving fine, with no light on, then I'd just relax about it.

2nd March 2009, 14:15	#14 (permalink)
J4MMY Join Date: 16th January 2009 Location: UK Posts: 59 Thanks given: 11 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (2)	Thanks for the reassurance. I think I will spend my cash getting some 18" blades and tyres than getting honda chasing around looking for a fault that probably isn't there and charging me £80 an hour!

2nd March 2009, 14:58	#15 (permalink)
marcwicks Join Date: 13th December 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 27 Thanks given: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hey Team and J4MMY, I also have the same issue and have searched the forums several times to see if anyone else has this issue and/or a solution. My reading tells me that so long as the warning light goes out again then there is nothing to worry about. It's put down to the load on the battery when starting the engine from cold. The load on the battery trips a sensor temporarily. I am not aware Honda UK have a solution to this, but am prepared to be told otherwise. Marc

2nd March 2009, 15:00	#16 (permalink)
Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,247 Thanks given: 77 Thanked 404 Times in 388 Posts iTrader: (0)	Its just one of those Civic oddities we all know and love!

2nd March 2009, 15:07	#17 (permalink)
J4MMY Join Date: 16th January 2009 Location: UK Posts: 59 Thanks given: 11 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (2)	Hi Marc, Like you say Honda don't seem to have a solution for this. I'm reassured by Pottsy and your explanantion that this is just one of those annoying issues as long as the warning goes out and you have no other warning lights on the dash it's not worth worrying about. I'm certainly not going to let the dealer have it for a full day at £80. Thanks