Long list Who can make the longest list?

[lewist123]

I have made a few posts about problems i have had with my car but here is the full list

1) Overheated in traffic in Feb, 2 weeks after getting the car - One of the coolant overflow pipes has been removed and the coolant system was sucking in air. - Fixed

2) Drivers door would jam when the outside temp exceeded 20c. You could get in, but would not be able to get back out again. - Fixed

3) Generally very badly performing brakes - Ongoing

4) Boot would not shut one day and was unable to lock the car properly. Took 3 days to get the dealer to sort it out, during which time the car was never properly locked - fixed but the boot is still very hard to shut properly

5) Nasty clunking coming from front of car when braking or accellerating - Was told that they couldn't find anything and to bring it back when it got worse

6) Clicking from front nearside outer CV joint - Fixed

7) Point 5 above was later diagnosed as a worn shock absorber - Fixed

Bumpstops were also replaced with point 7 above

9) Outer CVs gone again, but both this time - Booked in

10) Clunking coming from the front has also returned - Booked in

Points I have not bothered with

11) Fag lighter socket pulls out of centre console

12) Frog in my wipers

13) Boot gas struts not strong enough

14) Lift up boot flaw as become 'wonky' and doesn't sit correctly (although i have had some heavy stuff in the boot, but still!)

15) Rattle from dash, and now a new rattle/buzz from engine when letting off from 3900 rpm which has only appeared since it went for its first service. Nothing seams loose under the bonnet

16)Wildly innacurate fuel consuption figures (affected i assume by the innacuracy of the speedo!)

I like the car, I just wish it handled better. I could forgive it these little issues if it drove well, but it doesn't. It feels numb and very cumpersome at low speed.

Also there is not enough anti-roll on the car. The suspention is stiff, but it rolls arround on tight corners causing lack of grip etc and making the car generaly unsatisfying to drive. and the stiff springs make motorways a bit of a chore!

[jazzman]

Are you sure you`ve got a Civic

[lewist123]

yeah! here is mine!



I love this pic btw,

[cb550]

Originally Posted by lewist123

I have made a few posts about problems i have had with my car but here is the full list

1) Overheated in traffic in Feb, 2 weeks after getting the car - One of the coolant overflow pipes has been removed and the coolant system was sucking in air. - Fixed

2) Drivers door would jam when the outside temp exceeded 20c. You could get in, but would not be able to get back out again. - Fixed

3) Generally very badly performing brakes - Ongoing

4) Boot would not shut one day and was unable to lock the car properly. Took 3 days to get the dealer to sort it out, during which time the car was never properly locked - fixed but the boot is still very hard to shut properly

5) Nasty clunking coming from front of car when braking or accellerating - Was told that they couldn't find anything and to bring it back when it got worse

6) Clicking from front nearside outer CV joint - Fixed

7) Point 5 above was later diagnosed as a worn shock absorber - Fixed

Bumpstops were also replaced with point 7 above

9) Outer CVs gone again, but both this time - Booked in

10) Clunking coming from the front has also returned - Booked in

Points I have not bothered with

11) Fag lighter socket pulls out of centre console

12) Frog in my wipers

13) Boot gas struts not strong enough

14) Lift up boot flaw as become 'wonky' and doesn't sit correctly (although i have had some heavy stuff in the boot, but still!)

15) Rattle from dash, and now a new rattle/buzz from engine when letting off from 3900 rpm which has only appeared since it went for its first service. Nothing seams loose under the bonnet

16)Wildly innacurate fuel consuption figures (affected i assume by the innacuracy of the speedo!)

I like the car, I just wish it handled better. I could forgive it these little issues if it drove well, but it doesn't. It feels numb and very cumpersome at low speed.

Also there is not enough anti-roll on the car. The suspention is stiff, but it rolls arround on tight corners causing lack of grip etc and making the car generaly unsatisfying to drive. and the stiff springs make motorways a bit of a chore!

Last 2 paragraphs say the car doesn't fit (your) bill.Spending Civic kind of money you want the car that ticks all,or nearly all the right boxes.

My previous 2 cars did,nt quite do that for me-the first of those was an extremely dissapointing Alfa,the second, ES Civic,a good car but eventually I still wanted a more 'sporty' drive.

Had my Type S nearly a year and still fits the bill just fineI figured spending,as I say new or nearly new car prices,I'd accept the financial hit from swapping models and ultimately its been worth every penny.

[lewist123]

yeah, but as i understand it, the type s has similar suspention as most of the other models! I have the sport model which i am told is the same as all the other, other than the wheels and the pedals etc!

I have to choose a 4 door car that was economical and reliable as well as 'sporty'.

its generally reliable (its never 'broken down') and resonably economical, I can get 45 mph (according to the computer) on a gentle motorway cruise, but i feel let down the on the sport part! Its just understeer all the way!

I had a new focus for a while (seats were crippling) and that was a dream to drive! resonsive, light on it's feet, reacted brilliently to steering input and so on

[cb550]

Originally Posted by lewist123

yeah, but as i understand it, the type s has similar suspention as most of the other models! I have the sport model which i am told is the same as all the other, other than the wheels and the pedals etc!

I have to choose a 4 door car that was economical and reliable as well as 'sporty'.

its generally reliable (its never 'broken down') and resonably economical, I can get 45 mph (according to the computer) on a gentle motorway cruise, but i feel let down the on the sport part! Its just understeer all the way!

I had a new focus for a while (seats were crippling) and that was a dream to drive! resonsive, light on it's feet, reacted brilliently to steering input and so on

Type S is out for you thenDifferences to the type S from 5 door IMO make them substantially different cars handling wise.Last 3 of your points do pretty well some up how this car drives for me

[lewist123]

what are the differences between the S and the sport then that make such a big difference.

Road tests of the type R all come back with the same handling traits as my car as well, i.e. not very good!

[FergusTheDog]

1. IPod connector not fitted
2. Rear lights wired up incorrectly
3. Missing reversing light (dealer said the car didn't have one)
4. Number plate fell off
5. Clutch noisy from new
6. Glove box flies open as soon as you start driving
7. Trim rattles
8. Enormous oil consumption
9. Scratched dashboard
10. Rattling speaker housing
11. Paint flaking off driver's door
12. Oil stains on driver's door trim
13. Inoperative rear wiper
14. Petrol cap doesn't open
15. Dealer is incompetent and unhelpful
16. I lost the will to live at this point....

Except that was Mrs Fergus's experience of a new Toyota Yaris. My Civic scores nul points on the old Problem-o-meter!

[xYKMFx chris]

Honda told me (i did av to laugh thou!!) the coigarette lighter comes out because in-car chargers are 'made so tight these days'!!!! What a scream!!!!!!

[rhodgreen]

Honda have an excuse for everything!

[jazzman]

Originally Posted by FergusTheDog

Except that was Mrs Fergus's experience of a new Toyota Yaris. My Civic scores nul points on the old Problem-o-meter!

Good to hear ( not for you) that this happens to all manufacturers including Toyota, a point I have been making all the time

[rhodgreen]

Never had a list like this with my last three Renaults, the wife's Audi, my parents Focus's, the mother in laws A-class, my friend's Skoda etc etc!

[Brodick]

Originally Posted by rhodgreen

Never had a list like this with my last three Renaults, the wife's Audi, my parents Focus's, the mother in laws A-class, my friend's Skoda etc etc!

it would seem there is a small percentage of civic with problems
over 100,000 civics made 11,000+ members on here ( most of whom are happy with their cars) leaving 89,000+ unaccounted for. I think it can be taken then the majority of them are happy

your last comment rhodgreen just goes to show that Renault, Ford, Audi,
and Mercedes can make good cars aswell if your family are happy with their cars

and just to prove that I am not a walking, talking advert for Honda
I am going to be looking at the new Volvo XC60 and Audi Q5 when it comes time to change my current CR-V the civic will more than likely be changed for an all new jazz however as my mum not longer wants such a big car as the civic

Also you cannot make one of comments such as "Honda have an excuse for everything"

[rhodgreen]

I can make any comment I like!! - it's called my opinion!
Anyway - in my case - it's the truth!

[cb550]

Originally Posted by lewist123

what are the differences between the S and the sport then that make such a big difference.

Road tests of the type R all come back with the same handling traits as my car as well, i.e. not very good!

Wider rear track,thicker front anti-roll bar,different steering column mountings,structurally stiffer body due to 3 door design.Don't know about dampers/springs.I know my S is a different car handling wise compared to my ES.

I'd be interested to hear Type R drivers on this site rate their car's handling/roadholding......

[jazzman]

Originally Posted by rhodgreen

I can make any comment I like!! - it's called my opinion!
Anyway - in my case - it's the truth!

Anyway - in my case - my spaceship is wonderful and so are Honda - that`s my opinion

[Brodick]

Originally Posted by jazzman

Anyway - in my case - my spaceship is wonderful and so are Honda - that`s my opinion

and Ours

and we are not alone Jazzman

sorry just had to throw that in

[jazzman]

Originally Posted by Brodick

and Ours

and we are not alone Jazzman

sorry just had to throw that in

and I caught it

[AAM]

Originally Posted by xYKMFx chris

Hope all is well anyway!!!! jayne (& Chris)

Car not ready as yet. Having paint problems and the bodyshop manager is not happy to release the car. He seems to be a pretty tough cookie and seems to be quite a perfectionist. All this caused by the previous garage,(WSG), doing a botched job. You might be interested to know that the dent to the wing happened on April 16th by a careless skipman overloading the skip. This was 2 weeks after I took delivery of the car. Car still not repaired after 12 weeks! It has been in bodyshops so far for a total of approx 7 weeks. I have driven the car in total for approx 6 weeks! Therefore, over half the time since delivery in bodyshops! Will I ever get it back and have full use of it continuously, I wonder. I have nearly lost the will to live!

[jazzman]

Originally Posted by AAM

Car not ready as yet. Having paint problems and the bodyshop manager is not happy to release the car. He seems to be a pretty tough cookie and seems to be quite a perfectionist. All this caused by the previous garage,(WSG), doing a botched job. You might be interested to know that the dent to the wing happened on April 16th by a careless skipman overloading the skip. This was 2 weeks after I took delivery of the car. Car still not repaired after 12 weeks! It has been in bodyshops so far for a total of approx 7 weeks. I have driven the car in total for approx 6 weeks! Therefore, over half the time since delivery in bodyshops! Will I ever get it back and have full use of it continuously, I wonder. I have nearly lost the will to live!

Just think how wonderful life will be when you get it back