Suspension Front suspension squeaks / thuds - Page 5

FWH · 19th August 2007, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcr

Sorry to say, I have no confidence that Honda will ever sort these shocks out and they're going to cost plenty when the warranty runs out.

Are there any after market shocks available yet?
Anyone tried them?

Pottsy · 19th August 2007, 20:03

The new struts I have are ace. The car is silent, drives wonderfully and I'm really very pleased.

If things did go wrong after the warrenty period, they don't seem too pricey (well not end of the world pricey - £45 for the damper, £75 for the whole strut):

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gary 2 · 21st August 2007, 19:15

I totaly agree with you TC I do get the impression they don't care, very poor for such a big organisation and ongoing since production. I have put two people off buying one of these cars due to ongoing problems which is a shame as this is such a nice looking car and luvly to drive if you turn up the stereo!
Hi Pottsy, Out of curiousty how long did your orignals last?

Pottsy · 21st August 2007, 19:36

About 7 months before they started groaning.

gary 2 · 23rd August 2007, 20:54

Blimey that's not long, if every body has to change them at that rate when out of warranty honda will be making a killing in the shock department!

FWH · 25th August 2007, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary 2

Blimey that's not long, if every body has to change them at that rate when out of warranty honda will be making a killing in the shock department!

are shocks covered by warranty or are they a "consumable"?

Pottsy · 25th August 2007, 07:55

Items that are "expected to wear" are not covered, unless there is a manufacturing defect. Replacing my dampers did not fix the fault though - replacing the strut/spring/bump stop assembly did (and that is not a consumable).

skam · 25th August 2007, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Items that are "expected to wear" are not covered, unless there is a manufacturing defect. Replacing my dampers did not fix the fault though - replacing the strut/spring/bump stop assembly did (and that is not a consumable).

after fixing my civic's right front bump stop i haven't got any problem with front suspension squeaks. You should all check this out!!! I don't know if this is a permanent fix but my car is working as it should do. for the moment.

PeterT · 25th August 2007, 20:23

finally my right front suspension leg is replaced and the knocking is completely gone. Also the handling and comfort are improved. First they tried to fix the "schock stop" (brown/orange thing) but without effect. Now this fix was completely under Honda warranty and had no cost at all for me, even the courtesy car. So after receiving the car in March I finally feel I have most of the problems fixed.

Pottsy · 25th August 2007, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

f "schock stop" (brown/orange thing)

= bump stop.

There seem to be 2 faults. A squeaking/groaning which is fixed by replacing the whole strut, and a knocking/rattling/popping which is the bump stop. I've put an interesting TSB from the US Civic regarding the bump stops here.

FWH · 25th August 2007, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

= bump stop.

There seem to be 2 faults. A squeaking/groaning which is fixed by replacing the whole strut, and a knocking/rattling/popping which is the bump stop. I've put an interesting TSB from the US Civic regarding the bump stops here.

Think you meant here: Bump Stops

gray52 · 27th August 2007, 21:48

My Nearside Bumpstop Is Duff, I Only Found It By Chance As Ive Had All The Wheels Off And Cleaned The Insides, Calipers, Checked Brake Pads And Cleaned Brake Disk Guards, And Wheel Rotations. I Remembered Reading About This And Ive Had A Knock From About 1 Month Old, Now 12months Old And 1st Service This Week. Checked The Offside 1st And All Was Fine,checked Nearside And Is Loose...great.

Will They Change Both Sides,,as I Wont Be Happy With Just One Side Being Changed.

richierich · 28th August 2007, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by gray52

My Nearside Bumpstop Is Duff, I Only Found It By Chance As Ive Had All The Wheels Off And Cleaned The Insides, Calipers, Checked Brake Pads And Cleaned Brake Disk Guards, And Wheel Rotations. I Remembered Reading About This And Ive Had A Knock From About 1 Month Old, Now 12months Old And 1st Service This Week. Checked The Offside 1st And All Was Fine,checked Nearside And Is Loose...great.

Will They Change Both Sides,,as I Wont Be Happy With Just One Side Being Changed.

I was told they will not be changing both of mine, just the guilty one. I questioned that they should both be done and was advised there really was no need. Goes in on Friday.

Charley Farley · 28th August 2007, 18:14

Hi Richierich/gray52

My went into the garage today re Bumpstop on drivers side. I've now been told that the bump stop is duff and the whole suspension assembly needs to be changed. But they will only change one side. Apparently this is Honda's policy. I'm not happy either.

3rd Honda · 31st August 2007, 17:00

Mine has been noisy again - looked today - yellow bump stop front nearside off AGAIN. Booked dealer visit and I'm going to insist the strut is changed.

Rear suspension also very noisy AGAIN, especially 1st thing, and exhaust rattling loudly AGAIN at idle.

Frankly - I'm pretty fed up, and I'm getting worried that these short term 'fixes' that last a few weeks at best will just continue to be applied until the warranty runs out - then I'm left with a noisy rattly car that sound like its done many hundred thousand miles. Driving over a road with many small potholes (as the roads here are) sounds like the car is about to break apart!

My Accord, which had done well over 100,000 miles in 13 years (with several hundred miles on unsurfaced roads) never rattled and banged as badly as this one does now at only 12,000 miles and 1 year old.

gray52 · 31st August 2007, 21:47

im getting just the one strut changed, so i may wait and see if the other on falls off.

slowhand · 1st September 2007, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Having had the front left damper replaced, then the front right, the squeaking came back. I now have just had both front strut and spring assemblies replaced. The squeaking and groaning has totally gone - and things look a bit different too. The yellow bump stop is much more visible - maybe I have a modified strut...

All in all very happy - silent front suspension is a major boon.

Funny you should mention the colour I thought mine were a brighter yellow after they were replaced too, I also thought the plastic gaiter was different also, the corugations were much closer together. but I wasnt sure, perhaps thats how to tell if the strut has been changed. There also appears to be a plastic collar around the bump stop which is attached to the top of the strut.

slowhand · 1st September 2007, 15:01

Does anyone know if the struts on the civic are different for diesel and petrol, since mine were changed I am convinced the front is riding a tiny bit higher, I wondered if they had fitted diesel struts with slightly harder springs.

My springs have 2 blue spots painted on them, what have you got on yours and is it diesel or petrol?

Charley Farley · 2nd September 2007, 19:48

Hi Slowhand

The struts will be different for the diesel and the petrol. The diesel engine will be somewhat heavier and therefore need different spring and dampers.

slowhand · 6th September 2007, 20:28

Yeah I figured they would be, would a couple of you fine gentlemen have a quick look under your wheel arches and see what colour the paint spots on the springs are please I feel a bit daft going round the dealer looking under all the cars

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This thread is about: Front suspension squeaks / thuds, it's in Bugs, faults and irritations at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by pcr Sorry to say, I have no confidence that Honda will ever sort these shocks out and they're going to cost plenty ...

19th August 2007, 20:03	#82 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	The new struts I have are ace. The car is silent, drives wonderfully and I'm really very pleased. If things did go wrong after the warrenty period, they don't seem too pricey (well not end of the world pricey - £45 for the damper, £75 for the whole strut): Honda Automotive Parts

21st August 2007, 19:15	#83 (permalink)
gary 2 Valve Cap Join Date: 17th May 2007 Location: reading Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I totaly agree with you TC I do get the impression they don't care, very poor for such a big organisation and ongoing since production. I have put two people off buying one of these cars due to ongoing problems which is a shame as this is such a nice looking car and luvly to drive if you turn up the stereo! Hi Pottsy, Out of curiousty how long did your orignals last?

21st August 2007, 19:36	#84 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	About 7 months before they started groaning.

23rd August 2007, 20:54	#85 (permalink)
gary 2 Valve Cap Join Date: 17th May 2007 Location: reading Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Blimey that's not long, if every body has to change them at that rate when out of warranty honda will be making a killing in the shock department!

25th August 2007, 07:55	#87 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Items that are "expected to wear" are not covered, unless there is a manufacturing defect. Replacing my dampers did not fix the fault though - replacing the strut/spring/bump stop assembly did (and that is not a consumable).

25th August 2007, 20:23	#89 (permalink)
PeterT Valve Cap Join Date: 25th January 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	finally my right front suspension leg is replaced and the knocking is completely gone. Also the handling and comfort are improved. First they tried to fix the "schock stop" (brown/orange thing) but without effect. Now this fix was completely under Honda warranty and had no cost at all for me, even the courtesy car. So after receiving the car in March I finally feel I have most of the problems fixed.

27th August 2007, 21:48	#92 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 905 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (1)	My Nearside Bumpstop Is Duff, I Only Found It By Chance As Ive Had All The Wheels Off And Cleaned The Insides, Calipers, Checked Brake Pads And Cleaned Brake Disk Guards, And Wheel Rotations. I Remembered Reading About This And Ive Had A Knock From About 1 Month Old, Now 12months Old And 1st Service This Week. Checked The Offside 1st And All Was Fine,checked Nearside And Is Loose...great. Will They Change Both Sides,,as I Wont Be Happy With Just One Side Being Changed.

28th August 2007, 18:14	#94 (permalink)
Charley Farley Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Greenford West London Posts: 486 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Richierich/gray52 My went into the garage today re Bumpstop on drivers side. I've now been told that the bump stop is duff and the whole suspension assembly needs to be changed. But they will only change one side. Apparently this is Honda's policy. I'm not happy either.

31st August 2007, 17:00	#95 (permalink)
3rd Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th July 2006 Location: Tewkesbury Posts: 372 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine has been noisy again - looked today - yellow bump stop front nearside off AGAIN. Booked dealer visit and I'm going to insist the strut is changed. Rear suspension also very noisy AGAIN, especially 1st thing, and exhaust rattling loudly AGAIN at idle. Frankly - I'm pretty fed up, and I'm getting worried that these short term 'fixes' that last a few weeks at best will just continue to be applied until the warranty runs out - then I'm left with a noisy rattly car that sound like its done many hundred thousand miles. Driving over a road with many small potholes (as the roads here are) sounds like the car is about to break apart! My Accord, which had done well over 100,000 miles in 13 years (with several hundred miles on unsurfaced roads) never rattled and banged as badly as this one does now at only 12,000 miles and 1 year old.

31st August 2007, 21:47	#96 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 905 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (1)	im getting just the one strut changed, so i may wait and see if the other on falls off.

1st September 2007, 15:01	#98 (permalink)
slowhand Wheelnut Join Date: 13th May 2007 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know if the struts on the civic are different for diesel and petrol, since mine were changed I am convinced the front is riding a tiny bit higher, I wondered if they had fitted diesel struts with slightly harder springs. My springs have 2 blue spots painted on them, what have you got on yours and is it diesel or petrol?

2nd September 2007, 19:48	#99 (permalink)
Charley Farley Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Greenford West London Posts: 486 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Slowhand The struts will be different for the diesel and the petrol. The diesel engine will be somewhat heavier and therefore need different spring and dampers.

6th September 2007, 20:28	#100 (permalink)
slowhand Wheelnut Join Date: 13th May 2007 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yeah I figured they would be, would a couple of you fine gentlemen have a quick look under your wheel arches and see what colour the paint spots on the springs are please I feel a bit daft going round the dealer looking under all the cars