Transmission Drops revs - i-shift stall (merged)

shytalk · 14th December 2006, 19:58

On crawling uphill in either i-shift or manual it will suddenly drop revs and nearly stall then it recovers.
This happens about every ten yards.I took it back to the dealers who said they could'nt find anything but suggested it might be trying to change gear.What at 5 mph.

Brodick · 14th December 2006, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by shytalk

On crawling uphill in either i-shift or manual it will suddenly drop revs and nearly stall then it recovers.
This happens about every ten yards.I took it back to the dealers who said they could'nt find anything but suggested it might be trying to change gear.What at 5 mph.

it could be 1st into 2nd or v.v even at that speed

although I would be surprised

Korkut Varol · 14th December 2006, 20:12

Yes, most probably it is in 2nd gear and decides to downshift, it stalls while shifting to 1st. This may be due to low rpm operation in all gears, when economy is considered first. It keeps in 2nd gear down to almost walking speed. Happens to me also but I got used to it; after all it lasts not more than a second... Just make a left-click on the paddle and downshift to 1st before it tries to decide. Then you won't have any stallings..
HTH...

JPDirect · 14th December 2006, 20:42

Hi Shytalk,

I had this too and asked the dealer to look into it. They said it could be something to do with the way the idle has been set. They said that they changed the idling speed and that would do the trick. Trouble is, I'm still getting it. You think it's about to stall, but it NEVER actually does.

Doesn't happen very often now.

Maldax · 14th December 2006, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by shytalk

On crawling uphill in either i-shift or manual it will suddenly drop revs and nearly stall then it recovers.
This happens about every ten yards.I took it back to the dealers who said they could'nt find anything but suggested it might be trying to change gear.What at 5 mph.

It's a self professing prophecy. You think it’s going to stall so you dip the throttle meanwhile the car has changed down to 1st then back up to 2nd because you dipped the throttle then changes down to 1st again and you think its going to stall so you dip the throttle and so it begins

I find you have to be very gentle with the throttle at lower speeds. Still love that i-Shift

Brodick · 14th December 2006, 21:27

An automatic cannot stall (unless there is something seriously wrong)

I would pressume the same applies to the I-shift

shytalk · 14th December 2006, 22:13

this happens even when i am in manual in first gear. I am aware that automatics dont stall it just appears thats what its trying to do.It also only does it on an uphill crawl in a traffic jam.

wolverine · 15th February 2007, 23:41

As you know, i just like lookign good in the car, so the technicality of it is lost on mem however,

Should I be able to STALL my I shift gearbox, because I do, and have done it more that once. it only happens when going from reverse to drive...

ANy help?

Nick7 · 16th February 2007, 09:39

Never had that issue.
But, you should change gear from reverse to drive (and vice-versa) only when car has stopped.

Charles_Harding · 16th February 2007, 11:15

Mine tried that the other morning, but it was very cold and I assumed that as it didn't reappear it was the gearbox oils being a bit chilly.

"If Superman has this X-ray vision and can see thro anything....wouldn't he therefore see thro everything and actually see nothing?"

Charles H.

coopermonk · 4th January 2008, 10:40

I have 1.8 vtec sport manual, sometimes not all the while when coming to a halt the rev counter drops and the car shudders and feels like it is going to stall.
Anyone else had this prob?

Bog · 4th January 2008, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by coopermonk

I have 1.8 vtec sport manual, sometimes not all the while when coming to a halt the rev counter drops and the car shudders and feels like it is going to stall.
Anyone else had this prob?

Yes, it's only started doing recently - funny thing is, I got a call from my dealer yesterday to fit a new power steering module (on back order from my 1st service before xmas) and I told them about this and the lady said it's a known issue and they would be changing the EGR unit at the same time. She said something about a recall??

coopermonk · 5th January 2008, 13:33

Bog do you think i should take back to dealer?
Is recall on honda site?

Bog · 5th January 2008, 17:07

I've not looked on the Honda site, I'm only going on what the lady said at my dealer and the info in this thead... http://www.civinfo.com/forum/engines...ve-recall.html

I'd give your dealer a call

geo · 15th January 2008, 11:59

Ηι

Please take a look at the thread: revs 500rpm

Is it the same problem?

coopermonk · 16th January 2008, 10:12

Hi My car does this when you come to a sudden stop , ie drop the clutch and break.
The rev drop to 500, the car shudders then it quickly goes back to 700 rpm's.
Someone said it may be prob with EGR unit ???
Due for 2nd service soon will ask dealer.
1.8 sport

Nick7 · 16th January 2008, 15:33

That should not happen.
Revs should gently drop to idle speed.
What happens is for some reason idle settings are too low and revs drop to 500-ish rpm's, and than ECU quickly compensates to bring it to pre-set idle speed (in ECU) of 750rpm.

FWH · 16th January 2008, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by coopermonk

Someone said it may be prob with EGR unit ???
Due for 2nd service soon will ask dealer.
1.8 sport

I think the general EGR fault was 2.2 only.

14th December 2006, 19:58	#1 (permalink)
shytalk Valve Cap Join Date: 26th November 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Drops revs - i-shift stall (merged) On crawling uphill in either i-shift or manual it will suddenly drop revs and nearly stall then it recovers. This happens about every ten yards.I took it back to the dealers who said they could'nt find anything but suggested it might be trying to change gear.What at 5 mph.

14th December 2006, 22:13	#7 (permalink)
shytalk Valve Cap Join Date: 26th November 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	drops revs this happens even when i am in manual in first gear. I am aware that automatics dont stall it just appears thats what its trying to do.It also only does it on an uphill crawl in a traffic jam.

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wolverine Valve Cap Join Date: 14th January 2007 Location: Gutersloh, Germany Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stall? As you know, i just like lookign good in the car, so the technicality of it is lost on mem however, Should I be able to STALL my I shift gearbox, because I do, and have done it more that once. it only happens when going from reverse to drive... ANy help?

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Korkut Varol Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 31st October 2006 Location: Ankara, Turkey Posts: 457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, most probably it is in 2nd gear and decides to downshift, it stalls while shifting to 1st. This may be due to low rpm operation in all gears, when economy is considered first. It keeps in 2nd gear down to almost walking speed. Happens to me also but I got used to it; after all it lasts not more than a second... Just make a left-click on the paddle and downshift to 1st before it tries to decide. Then you won't have any stallings.. HTH...

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JPDirect Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 1st October 2006 Location: London Posts: 172 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Shytalk, I had this too and asked the dealer to look into it. They said it could be something to do with the way the idle has been set. They said that they changed the idling speed and that would do the trick. Trouble is, I'm still getting it. You think it's about to stall, but it NEVER actually does. Doesn't happen very often now.

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Brodick Perfect Guy! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 1,657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	An automatic cannot stall (unless there is something seriously wrong) I would pressume the same applies to the I-shift

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Nick7 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th August 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 442 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Never had that issue. But, you should change gear from reverse to drive (and vice-versa) only when car has stopped.

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Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 2,820 Thanks: 37 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Mine tried that the other morning, but it was very cold and I assumed that as it didn't reappear it was the gearbox oils being a bit chilly. *"If Superman has this X-ray vision and can see thro anything....wouldn't he therefore see thro everything and actually see nothing?"* Charles H.

4th January 2008, 10:40	#11 (permalink)
coopermonk Valve Cap Join Date: 15th July 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have 1.8 vtec sport manual, sometimes not all the while when coming to a halt the rev counter drops and the car shudders and feels like it is going to stall. Anyone else had this prob?

5th January 2008, 13:33	#13 (permalink)
coopermonk Valve Cap Join Date: 15th July 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bog do you think i should take back to dealer? Is recall on honda site?

5th January 2008, 17:07	#14 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 886 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I've not looked on the Honda site, I'm only going on what the lady said at my dealer and the info in this thead... http://www.civinfo.com/forum/engines...ve-recall.html I'd give your dealer a call

15th January 2008, 11:59	#15 (permalink)
geo Valve Cap Join Date: 10th January 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ηι Please take a look at the thread: revs 500rpm Is it the same problem?

16th January 2008, 10:12	#16 (permalink)
coopermonk Valve Cap Join Date: 15th July 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi My car does this when you come to a sudden stop , ie drop the clutch and break. The rev drop to 500, the car shudders then it quickly goes back to 700 rpm's. Someone said it may be prob with EGR unit ??? Due for 2nd service soon will ask dealer. 1.8 sport

16th January 2008, 15:33	#17 (permalink)
Nick7 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th August 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 442 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	That should not happen. Revs should gently drop to idle speed. What happens is for some reason idle settings are too low and revs drop to 500-ish rpm's, and than ECU quickly compensates to bring it to pre-set idle speed (in ECU) of 750rpm.