Engine Acceleration Problem Help - Page 2

basegreen · 12th July 2006, 16:41

Somewhere in the middle I presume.

(unless it's your mrs in which case the car will break immediately)

Maldax · 12th July 2006, 16:53

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Originally Posted by basegreen

Somewhere in the middle I presume.

Dam I was hoping for and excuse to keep the Mrs off if!

basegreen · 12th July 2006, 17:08

Did you read my post correctly

richierich · 12th July 2006, 18:32

Damn, I've just lent the wife mine for the evening, I hope she has her RAC card!!

generationgav · 12th July 2006, 20:52

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Damn, I've just lent the wife mine for the evening, I hope she has her RAC card!!

What happened to our AA cover?

ianjay1956 · 12th July 2006, 21:57

This is a well known problem on the Civic, the throttle response in some situations is not smooth and it irritated the hell out of me when I first got my 1.8EX - even took it to the dealer who said no fault found. After a few weeks of driving I got used to it but sometimes when pulling away it will hesitate on the throttle. Also when changing gear the engine will rev in between changes of you dont get the balance of throttle and clutch quite right. All to do with the drive-by-wire throttle. Putting all that aside, the engine is superb and very economical, I am averaging over 40mpg on a mix of town and motorway driving, I dont thrash it but I dont sit around either - enjoy

fromswedenwithlove · 5th August 2006, 14:32

Thought I might write something positive about the engine for a change

During the last month I've been using 98 octane instead of 95. Furthermore, I have been revving it harder and harder (almost 6000 km's on the "clock" now). Surprise, surprise: the throttle response feels a lot better now (although it's not perfect) and the engine does not feel strangled anymore. So I guess I'll have to take back some of my harsh criticism regarding the DBW.

elfa7 · 5th August 2006, 14:51

This problem seems to manifest itself more with the petrol than the diesel. Wonder why that is ?.

basegreen · 5th August 2006, 16:37

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Originally Posted by elfa7

This problem seems to manifest itself more with the petrol than the diesel. Wonder why that is ?.

Its the way it's geared IMO. First is VERY aggressive.

generationgav · 5th August 2006, 17:48

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This problem seems to manifest itself more with the petrol than the diesel. Wonder why that is ?.

Its the way it's geared IMO. First is VERY aggressive.

A bit too aggressive maybe; in my old 1.6 Peugeot 206 it was quite easy (although probably not advisable) to hit 15 or so doing 1st, so I would sometimes set off on a roundabout and move to 2nd as I was exiting; no chance with the civic, you HAVE to change.

basegreen · 5th August 2006, 18:10

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Originally Posted by generationgav

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Originally Posted by basegreen

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Originally Posted by elfa7

This problem seems to manifest itself more with the petrol than the diesel. Wonder why that is ?.

Its the way it's geared IMO. First is VERY aggressive.

A bit too aggressive maybe; in my old 1.6 Peugeot 206 it was quite easy (although probably not advisable) to hit 15 or so doing 1st, so I would sometimes set off on a roundabout and move to 2nd as I was exiting; no chance with the civic, you HAVE to change.

Yep - I think it's to get the 0-60 time down

Fedorov · 5th August 2006, 20:28

I just had a good run up to Newcastle today (anyone on here with a Black Civic reg.no ending with HTH or HTN on the A1 coming south?)

I took a few winding roads as well today to give it a bit more of a test today and it was great.

One thing I've noticed on my 2.2 EX is that you don't really feel the turbo kicking in and doing much in 4th gear, feels a little flat compared to 5th and 6th which are great.
So say I put my foot down, get up to 3rd reach 45-50mph in 3rd gear, I may as well jump straight to 5th where I get much more oooomph out of it.

Is there some technique I'm missing here for getting past those "sunday drivers" doing 30mph on a single country lane???

Thanks.

elfa7 · 6th August 2006, 08:25

Try an RPG. That'll shift 'em !!!!

pikkumies · 6th August 2006, 08:31

I usually shift from 6th gear to fourth when overtaking.. hit the pedal to the metal and yep, oomph there it goes

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Fedorov · 7th August 2006, 00:23

I'll try that one when the wife and kids aren't in the car then thx

Pottsy · 7th August 2006, 10:01

Try revving in higher in third before changing to fourth - have a look at the "optimum chear change revs" here:

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/post3051.html#3051

Fedorov · 7th August 2006, 10:32

Thanks Pottsy, I need to turn Boyracer mode ON I think

stu_iow · 25th August 2006, 18:06

I believe my renault clio has "drive by wire" too.

It didn't takelong to get used to it, but if i am in 1st gerar in slow moving traffic, i look like a tit when slightly press or depress accelerator as i jolt around a lot.
Don't get this in 2nd gear as much (to the 1st gear extremes).

I expect the civic to be similar to how i need to drive it.

Bungle · 25th August 2006, 18:39

Yes, I had an 02 reg Clio, that had DBW throttle, too. That was the most terrible car I ever had. It spent more time in the garage than on the road, and it's gearbox blew up the night before I traded it in. Sorry back to the point. I have noticed it is very very responsive in first gear in slow town traffic. It is quite acceptable to coast in fisrt gear to avoid kangarooing down the road. Apparently, you should declutch before touching the brake pedal when driving in first gear, anyway.

These odd behaviors that might be put down to the DBW system can easily be adapted for. All cars need a slightly different technique to drive, and 'mind set' to some degree. The symptoms mentioned in this post are ones I experienced when the car was new, but don't pose any problems now I am used to it and have learnt the car.

stu_iow · 25th August 2006, 18:42

agree, its something you can easily overcome by changing your driving style.

I have done this.

I did used to find when changing gear, it used to rev, (i tested this today) but i have also noticed that my style of driving has adapted to this. (had the clio for 2 years).

Used to find it annoying, but once you get the technique, it makes for a very smooth ride!

12th July 2006, 21:57	#26 (permalink)
ianjay1956 Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd June 2006 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Jerky throttle response This is a well known problem on the Civic, the throttle response in some situations is not smooth and it irritated the hell out of me when I first got my 1.8EX - even took it to the dealer who said no fault found. After a few weeks of driving I got used to it but sometimes when pulling away it will hesitate on the throttle. Also when changing gear the engine will rev in between changes of you dont get the balance of throttle and clutch quite right. All to do with the drive-by-wire throttle. Putting all that aside, the engine is superb and very economical, I am averaging over 40mpg on a mix of town and motorway driving, I dont thrash it but I dont sit around either - enjoy

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12th July 2006, 16:41	#21 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Somewhere in the middle I presume. (unless it's your mrs in which case the car will break immediately)

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Damn, I've just lent the wife mine for the evening, I hope she has her RAC card!!

5th August 2006, 14:32	#27 (permalink)
fromswedenwithlove Valve Cap Join Date: 15th June 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thought I might write something positive about the engine for a change During the last month I've been using 98 octane instead of 95. Furthermore, I have been revving it harder and harder (almost 6000 km's on the "clock" now). Surprise, surprise: the throttle response feels a lot better now (although it's not perfect) and the engine does not feel strangled anymore. So I guess I'll have to take back some of my harsh criticism regarding the DBW.

5th August 2006, 14:51	#28 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	This problem seems to manifest itself more with the petrol than the diesel. Wonder why that is ?.

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Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I just had a good run up to Newcastle today (anyone on here with a Black Civic reg.no ending with HTH or HTN on the A1 coming south?) I took a few winding roads as well today to give it a bit more of a test today and it was great. One thing I've noticed on my 2.2 EX is that you don't really feel the turbo kicking in and doing much in 4th gear, feels a little flat compared to 5th and 6th which are great. So say I put my foot down, get up to 3rd reach 45-50mph in 3rd gear, I may as well jump straight to 5th where I get much more oooomph out of it. Is there some technique I'm missing here for getting past those "sunday drivers" doing 30mph on a single country lane??? Thanks.

6th August 2006, 08:25	#33 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Try an RPG. That'll shift 'em !!!!

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pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I usually shift from 6th gear to fourth when overtaking.. hit the pedal to the metal and yep, oomph there it goes .

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Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'll try that one when the wife and kids aren't in the car then thx

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Try revving in higher in third before changing to fourth - have a look at the "optimum chear change revs" here: http://www.civinfo.com/forum/post3051.html#3051

7th August 2006, 10:32	#37 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks Pottsy, I need to turn Boyracer mode ON I think

25th August 2006, 18:06	#38 (permalink)
stu_iow Big Civic fan Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 19th August 2006 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I believe my renault clio has "drive by wire" too. It didn't takelong to get used to it, but if i am in 1st gerar in slow moving traffic, i look like a tit when slightly press or depress accelerator as i jolt around a lot. Don't get this in 2nd gear as much (to the 1st gear extremes). I expect the civic to be similar to how i need to drive it.

25th August 2006, 18:39	#39 (permalink)
Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes, I had an 02 reg Clio, that had DBW throttle, too. That was the most terrible car I ever had. It spent more time in the garage than on the road, and it's gearbox blew up the night before I traded it in. Sorry back to the point. I have noticed it is very very responsive in first gear in slow town traffic. It is quite acceptable to coast in fisrt gear to avoid kangarooing down the road. Apparently, you should declutch before touching the brake pedal when driving in first gear, anyway. These odd behaviors that might be put down to the DBW system can easily be adapted for. All cars need a slightly different technique to drive, and 'mind set' to some degree. The symptoms mentioned in this post are ones I experienced when the car was new, but don't pose any problems now I am used to it and have learnt the car.

25th August 2006, 18:42	#40 (permalink)
stu_iow Big Civic fan Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 19th August 2006 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	agree, its something you can easily overcome by changing your driving style. I have done this. I did used to find when changing gear, it used to rev, (i tested this today) but i have also noticed that my style of driving has adapted to this. (had the clio for 2 years). Used to find it annoying, but once you get the technique, it makes for a very smooth ride!