Windscreen Badly fitted windscreen - Page 2

Stef · 27th February 2007, 17:05

Sorry pcr, I mixed up my stuff...
This is what I found in the (italian) service manual.
I think it indicates that the lower part of the screen has a bigger buffer, so the flexing could be normal... (may be some italian guy can help).

TTDegs · 28th February 2007, 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcr

Stef, I replied here. Yes, it flexes and creaks.
Moving windshield ?

MODS, Any chance of merging these two threads ?

errrr - yes, possibly - but only when I'm more awake so I don't muck it up like last time I tried

digisine · 8th March 2007, 08:56

Hi Stef,

Just back from hols - wife's pinchedthe car - will check when she gets back later today

digisine · 9th March 2007, 09:15

My windscreen does not flex as you have described. And btw what software program did you use to open the italian manual? I have tried and failed - maybe I'm just a muppet at these things?

Stef · 14th March 2007, 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by digisine

My windscreen does not flex as you have described. And btw what software program did you use to open the italian manual? I have tried and failed - maybe I'm just a muppet at these things?

Can you please ask what your dealer has done?
Did he remove the windscreen and replace with other one, or just injected some glue or something?

For the manual, it has been a while so I do not remember the exact steps. You have to "mount'' a virtual drive on your computer, us a program like deamon tools.
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/announcements.php
This virtual drive will access the file and extract it to a html folder.
Then best burn this html folder to DVD.

digisine · 14th March 2007, 09:42

The dealer had the screen removed completely and all of the original bonding material removed as far as possible. It appeared that the original bonding material had failed to cure properly as it retained an excessive elastic consistency, allowing sufficient movement of the screen within its apperture to create a 'chatter' over bumps.

The original sceen was re-fitted ensuring that the buffers or locating pads were correctly positioned, using new bonding agent to glue the screen back in place.

This has cured the fault.

Thanks for the tips for opening the file - I will try again.

Stef · 14th March 2007, 13:53

Thanks digisine. Did the dealer give you the impression that this is a known problem, or an isolated case?

If you can not unwrap the manual, I can put it unwarped on my work ftp site for you to download (about 300MB).

digisine · 14th March 2007, 15:09

My dealer told me that they had been instructed to remove and re-fit the windscreen by Honda technical department as there were some known intances of incorrect screen location in relation to the body aperture. This advice was provided after all other possibilities had been resolved - i.e. door open, 'A' post trim and airbag removed, test drive over route.

Certainly the problem has now gone away and beleive me, the roads around where i live (in common with many other parts of the British Isles fairly dreadful.

p.s. I have the manual in unwrapped form on my hard drive having downloaded it from the site address shown else where on this forum. Maybe its best to upload it to your site and for you to then give me the URL?

geoff · 14th March 2007, 17:57

Mines been replaced this week i have still got to collect it
They did say they could see why it had a rattle

pcr · 14th March 2007, 18:16

Geoff, would much appreciate any info you can gleen from the dealer on this.

Stef · 14th March 2007, 21:59

Seems we are getting closer to solve the windscreen mistery...
With all this info I can get to my dealer.
My screen or dash makes the noise rarely. It will never make noise when the dealer is testing it.

makke · 14th March 2007, 23:25

My dealer has taken out the windscreen and replaced it without the metal clips from the factory and....no more noises

geoff · 15th March 2007, 19:13

Not much to add
it seems okay I couldn't get much info about what had been done apart from the screen was removed and new screen fitted
It was done by a local windscreen firm.

a very good local firm called Seaford Windscreens

czechplastik · 15th March 2007, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoff

Not much to add
it seems okay I couldn't get much info about what had been done apart from the screen was removed and new screen fitted
It was done by a local windscreen firm.

a very good local firm called Seaford Windscreens

Happy yet?

pcr · 15th March 2007, 19:15

Geoff, thanks. Replacing the windscreen does seem to be fixing these creaks.

DJReto · 5th July 2007, 07:35

Hello Guys!

My english is not the best, but i hope, you'll understand me...

I also have a problem with my windscreen. When i push the windscreen, as shown as in Stef's post, i'm also able to move the windscreen for 1 or 2 millimetres. But the bad thing is the follwoing: I think, that there comes rain in my car. I made a photo yesterday after driving one hour in rain.

I wasn't able to read my vehicle identification number after this test drive...

Has anyone of you also waterdrops as shown in the picture below?

I hope, you can help me...

Greetings from Austria
Reto

Copycat · 5th July 2007, 08:24

Usually when it is raining my VIN gets like that too. And some others here have experienced the same.

There's another thread about it somewhere.

Asked the dealer about it, they told me to keep an eye on it. That was six months ago. It does happen sometimes, not sure why. However, when I drive around and the A/C is blowing dry into the cabin, it clears up.

My dealer did offer to replace the windscreen, but I decided against it for now. Mostly because I had just gone through a lengthy patch of driving a loan car while the Civic was in the shop for something else.

If it does become a problem, it will obviously be replaced under warranty.

Copycat · 5th July 2007, 08:25

Here, a link to that older thread.

Unreadable VIN

DJReto · 5th July 2007, 08:48

Thanks for the link, Copycat! Tomorrow i'll go to my dealer and ask him, what to with this condensation inside of the windscreen. Perhaps its a feature not a bug...

heysidays · 5th July 2007, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by digisine

The dealer had the screen removed completely and all of the original bonding material removed as far as possible. It appeared that the original bonding material had failed to cure properly as it retained an excessive elastic consistency, allowing sufficient movement of the screen within its apperture to create a 'chatter' over bumps.

The original sceen was re-fitted ensuring that the buffers or locating pads were correctly positioned, using new bonding agent to glue the screen back in place.

This has cured the fault.

Thanks for the tips for opening the file - I will try again.

I had the same problem with my windscreen. I had it removed and resealed with the original screen and it has cured the problem. No more serious creaks from the base of the screen. Took one day to complete. The lengthy part is the curing of the bonding material which I believe takes 4 hours to set properly.

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geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	replaced Mines been replaced this week i have still got to collect it They did say they could see why it had a rattle

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geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Pcr Not much to add it seems okay I couldn't get much info about what had been done apart from the screen was removed and new screen fitted It was done by a local windscreen firm. a very good local firm called Seaford Windscreens

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8th March 2007, 08:56	#23 (permalink)
digisine Wheelnut Join Date: 27th July 2006 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Stef, Just back from hols - wife's pinchedthe car - will check when she gets back later today

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digisine Wheelnut Join Date: 27th July 2006 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My windscreen does not flex as you have described. And btw what software program did you use to open the italian manual? I have tried and failed - maybe I'm just a muppet at these things?

14th March 2007, 09:42	#26 (permalink)
digisine Wheelnut Join Date: 27th July 2006 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The dealer had the screen removed completely and all of the original bonding material removed as far as possible. It appeared that the original bonding material had failed to cure properly as it retained an excessive elastic consistency, allowing sufficient movement of the screen within its apperture to create a 'chatter' over bumps. The original sceen was re-fitted ensuring that the buffers or locating pads were correctly positioned, using new bonding agent to glue the screen back in place. This has cured the fault. Thanks for the tips for opening the file - I will try again.

14th March 2007, 13:53	#27 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Thanks digisine. Did the dealer give you the impression that this is a known problem, or an isolated case? If you can not unwrap the manual, I can put it unwarped on my work ftp site for you to download (about 300MB).

14th March 2007, 15:09	#28 (permalink)
digisine Wheelnut Join Date: 27th July 2006 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My dealer told me that they had been instructed to remove and re-fit the windscreen by Honda technical department as there were some known intances of incorrect screen location in relation to the body aperture. This advice was provided after all other possibilities had been resolved - i.e. door open, 'A' post trim and airbag removed, test drive over route. Certainly the problem has now gone away and beleive me, the roads around where i live (in common with many other parts of the British Isles fairly dreadful. p.s. I have the manual in unwrapped form on my hard drive having downloaded it from the site address shown else where on this forum. Maybe its best to upload it to your site and for you to then give me the URL?

14th March 2007, 18:16	#30 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Geoff, would much appreciate any info you can gleen from the dealer on this.

14th March 2007, 21:59	#31 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Seems we are getting closer to solve the windscreen mistery... With all this info I can get to my dealer. My screen or dash makes the noise rarely. It will never make noise when the dealer is testing it.

14th March 2007, 23:25	#32 (permalink)
makke Wheelnut Join Date: 26th November 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My dealer has taken out the windscreen and replaced it without the metal clips from the factory and....no more noises

15th March 2007, 19:15	#35 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Geoff, thanks. Replacing the windscreen does seem to be fixing these creaks.

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Copycat Galaxy class starship Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Usually when it is raining my VIN gets like that too. And some others here have experienced the same. There's another thread about it somewhere. Asked the dealer about it, they told me to keep an eye on it. That was six months ago. It does happen sometimes, not sure why. However, when I drive around and the A/C is blowing dry into the cabin, it clears up. My dealer did offer to replace the windscreen, but I decided against it for now. Mostly because I had just gone through a lengthy patch of driving a loan car while the Civic was in the shop for something else. If it does become a problem, it will obviously be replaced under warranty.

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Copycat Galaxy class starship Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Here, a link to that older thread. Unreadable VIN

5th July 2007, 08:48	#39 (permalink)
DJReto Valve Cap Join Date: 25th May 2007 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the link, Copycat! Tomorrow i'll go to my dealer and ask him, what to with this condensation inside of the windscreen. Perhaps its a feature not a bug...