Seats Type S - Seat doesn't return into previous position after tilt

Dawson · 7th January 2007, 19:09

Here comes my first Civic rant....

When I was looking at the Type S at the dealer, the sales guy told me the seat would remember it's position and return to it after being tilted to access the rear of the car. Fair enough, a fairly standard feature and I didn't think to actually test it on the demo car. However, I've found this feature just doesn't exist.

To back this up, the manual says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type S Manual

After a passenger gets into the back seat, push the seat-back to return the seat. You may need to re-adjust the seat-back angle and forward back position before sitting in the front seat.

Is this true, or am I doing something wrong? I have a feeling it's the former, and it's very poor for a modern 3 door family hatckback if it is.

Bungle · 7th January 2007, 20:13

The previous model 3 door civic was the same. I used to only let people in and out of the passenger side (within reason) so I did not have to re-adjust each time.

PTR · 7th January 2007, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bungle

The previous model 3 door civic was the same. I used to only let people in and out of the passenger side (within reason) so I did not have to re-adjust each time.

yes, right! I've made it on the same way like you...
it was not that disturbing..

Dawson, once you get used to it will be fine! don't worry!

bibster80 · 7th January 2007, 23:12

As far as my experience tells me, all Japanese cars have this kind of seat mechanism. I have had Nissans and Hondas with this kind of non-memory tilting seat. That the dealer told you this would not be the case is a different matter - he probably just wanted the sale and if he is still there you should personally point this out to him and hope he has the grace to blush and apologise. I agree it is a pain if people are getting in and out of that side all of time. I suppose you'll probably have to minimise rear passenger exit from the driver side or find that 'sweet spot' and woe betide anyone who touches it

terry · 7th January 2007, 23:31

Or just buy a 5 door that looks like a 3 door?

Type S Bournemouth · 8th January 2007, 00:42

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Originally Posted by terry

Or just buy a 5 door that looks like a 3 door?

Cant see the why people think the 5 dr looks like the 3 dr. Put them side by side and they look quite different

czechplastik · 8th January 2007, 01:21

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Originally Posted by Type S Bournemouth

Cant see the why people think the 5 dr looks like the 3 dr. Put them side by side and they look quite different

Perhaps Bournemouth, but compared to other cars.

terry · 8th January 2007, 08:33

To us "experts" they are different, but judging by the people who have said they thought mine was a 3 door......due to the lack of an obvious rear door handle!

sik2k · 8th January 2007, 13:42

The seats in the 2007 Type R have memory (both the passenger & drivers side) so I have been told. I specifically asked the dealer the question has it was a bit of a pain on my previous 2003 Type R.

Meino · 8th January 2007, 13:48

My previous car (toyota corolla) had the same issue, the drivers side didn't remember the position, but the passenger side did.

l-noel · 8th January 2007, 13:52

My previous car (307 peugeot) did have memory seat but it was so hard to fold driver's seat that i was only using the passenger door (which is better for the safety) to let people step in.

Dawson · 9th January 2007, 20:16

Thanks for the replies. It's not a huge problem really as I never have anyone in the back, just a suprise. My 15 year old Mitsubishi Colt had memory seats for both the passenger and driver sides and my last 2 Focus's have both had it on the drivers side.

Mark996 · 13th January 2007, 22:57

My brothers girlfriend used to have a 3 door Yaris T-Sport which also did this (or didn't do this as the case may be....) - VERY annoying to say the least!!!!

Andrea · 14th January 2007, 00:56

my other half test drove the peg 107 today and we found it had this issue.

BrianAlbertsen · 14th January 2007, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Andrea

my other half test drove the peg 107 today and we found it had this issue.

Funny. It must be because the 107 is buildt to be cheap.
My Peugeot 206 from 2001 remembered both the angle and position of the seats.
It wasn't even advertised a a feature.

Clouseau · 17th January 2007, 12:52

I can't believe this is true. This so called "mechanism" falls in teritory of stupidity! I'm planing on buying Civic soon and can't believe how this is stupid. I'm driving my granpa's 3 door golf 2 from '89 which remembers seat position but the new designed space ship of 21 century doesn't have it???
What was Honda thinking...For a car which price is 26000€ here in Croatia (the same price of BMW 1, Audi A3, even the GOLF GTI is cheaper) this should have been fixed...I don't now for you guys but this really pissed me off

This isn't a feature it's a bug and it shoud have been returned to Honda for reclamation...

Or maybe Honda thought that we will let passengers through trunk?

P.S. Sorry for bad english

adamcivic · 21st January 2007, 12:19

I've had 4 Civic 3 doors, two previous shape Sports and two previous to that shape. The seats in all of them have never kept position once tilted -really annoyed me.

Got the Honda dealer to look at it on my first one, they came back with "yeah loads of people complain about that - but its the way it is" would of thought Honda would of resolved it by now.

I have a 1 Series now which has 4 doors so its not a problem!

Parky · 21st January 2007, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type S Bournemouth

Cant see the why people think the 5 dr looks like the 3 dr. Put them side by side and they look quite different

Nearly every person who has been expecting to get in to the back of my 5 door Civic has waited by the front doors until I pointed out the fact that it has rear doors. It's quite funny !

Ian

Topcat · 21st January 2007, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parky

Nearly every person who has been expecting to get in to the back of my 5 door Civic has waited by the front doors until I pointed out the fact that it has rear doors. It's quite funny !

Ian

I see the Alfa Romeo 147 has the same rear door handles.

l-noel · 21st January 2007, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

I see the Alfa Romeo 147 has the same rear door handles.

So do the last generation of Seat Leon (Same designer Mr Da Silva).

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bibster80 Valve Cap Join Date: 15th August 2006 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Seat As far as my experience tells me, all Japanese cars have this kind of seat mechanism. I have had Nissans and Hondas with this kind of non-memory tilting seat. That the dealer told you this would not be the case is a different matter - he probably just wanted the sale and if he is still there you should personally point this out to him and hope he has the grace to blush and apologise. I agree it is a pain if people are getting in and out of that side all of time. I suppose you'll probably have to minimise rear passenger exit from the driver side or find that 'sweet spot' and woe betide anyone who touches it

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sik2k Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The seats in the 2007 Type R have memory (both the passenger & drivers side) so I have been told. I specifically asked the dealer the question has it was a bit of a pain on my previous 2003 Type R.

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Meino Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 18th October 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 474 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My previous car (toyota corolla) had the same issue, the drivers side didn't remember the position, but the passenger side did.

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Dawson Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 7th December 2006 Location: Turriff Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies. It's not a huge problem really as I never have anyone in the back, just a suprise. My 15 year old Mitsubishi Colt had memory seats for both the passenger and driver sides and my last 2 Focus's have both had it on the drivers side.

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Mark996 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 11th April 2006 Location: Nottingham, Notts. Posts: 452 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	My brothers girlfriend used to have a 3 door Yaris T-Sport which also did this (or didn't do this as the case may be....) - VERY annoying to say the least!!!!

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Andrea Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 22nd July 2006 Location: Lynemouth, Northumberland Posts: 421 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	my other half test drove the peg 107 today and we found it had this issue.

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Clouseau Wheelnut Join Date: 28th October 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I can't believe this is true. This so called "mechanism" falls in teritory of stupidity! I'm planing on buying Civic soon and can't believe how this is stupid. I'm driving my granpa's 3 door golf 2 from '89 which remembers seat position but the new designed space ship of 21 century doesn't have it??? What was Honda thinking...For a car which price is 26000€ here in Croatia (the same price of BMW 1, Audi A3, even the GOLF GTI is cheaper) this should have been fixed...I don't now for you guys but this really pissed me off This isn't a feature it's a bug and it shoud have been returned to Honda for reclamation... Or maybe Honda thought that we will let passengers through trunk? P.S. Sorry for bad english

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adamcivic Valve Cap Join Date: 4th October 2006 Location: North West Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've had 4 Civic 3 doors, two previous shape Sports and two previous to that shape. The seats in all of them have never kept position once tilted -really annoyed me. Got the Honda dealer to look at it on my first one, they came back with "yeah loads of people complain about that - but its the way it is" would of thought Honda would of resolved it by now. I have a 1 Series now which has 4 doors so its not a problem!