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apemonkeyman · 19th April 2007, 14:59

They should still give you the option of a replacement car, but even then I may think again about that option cos at least you know the problem(s) should now be behind you with this one.

Hopefully you will now get to enjoy! Good luck!

Topcat · 19th April 2007, 15:59

It is extremely unlikely that a replacement car would be given after this length of time especially as most of the faults have been fixed.

Every cloud has a silver lining - at least you haven't added those extra 2500 miles to your own car.

You have waited 3 days for a reply from Honda UK, I have been waiting for 5 months - they would never win a a prize for the fastest response! Whereas Japan replied within 10 days!! Just to reiterate i didnt write to Japan to complain about anything trivial, my main complaint to them was the way in which Honda Uk appear to be ignoring me!

Anyway I hope all goes well with the car on Saturday

Cheltenhamshire · 19th April 2007, 16:10

Cheers all, I actually went out for a drive at lunchtime with Dave and heard with my own ears that the noise had gone so it should be okay on Saturday. All they will be doing is cleaning the car inside and out and also re-aligning the steering wheel, putting the airbag and some trim back in.

There are still the odd strange shaky / trim noise from the back of the car but that is just the parcel shelf / bits and bobs I keep in the under boot compartment so I am not bothered about that.

Oh how I have missed the 60bhp the 1.4 is down....the glass roof letting the light in and the cruise control for my trips to London. Yes, I am also glad that the miles have not been on my car but still.

So thumbs up to Amethyst and Dave. Thumbs up to Johnathan for not fobbing me off and doing a good job as service manager and a big thumbs down for Swindon and Honda customer service.

apemonkeyman · 23rd April 2007, 10:44

So Cheltenhamshire, how is it now you have your Civ back?

Cheltenhamshire · 23rd April 2007, 10:51

Well it is good. The car is as it has not been since I bought it! Drives well, sounds well, and now I have proper performance, leather on my steering wheel etc. It is strange, but the 1.8 ES really does feel a class apart from the 1.4 SE!!

I have no real confidence that something else will not fall off or break but at the moment things are good. I will try to enjoy them!

apemonkeyman · 23rd April 2007, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Cheltenhamshire

Well it is good. The car is as it has not been since I bought it! Drives well, sounds well, and now I have proper performance, leather on my steering wheel etc. It is strange, but the 1.8 ES really does feel a class apart from the 1.4 SE!!

Hehehe, I drove the 1.4 for a day while mine had the RDS/spring clip fixes done. Had to completely change my approach to joining the M5 J11a as I couldn't just get it to mesh in with the traffic without a lot of forethought! So relieved to get my 2.2 back after just 1 day so you must be buzzing after all these weeks!

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Originally Posted by Cheltenhamshire

I have no real confidence that something else will not fall off or break but at the moment things are good. I will try to enjoy them!

I understand where you are coming from there. You need a good long period of trouble free driving before you will feel full of the joys of Civ. Enjoy.

sco77harris · 23rd April 2007, 16:26

well im so glad to have got rid of the old one apparently it hadm ore faults than i realised
loose front bumper x2
fuel cap x2
dodgey radio
front lights damaging paint
boot struts failing
shock absorbers gone
poor gear changes
im sure there are more that i didnt notice lol

chillicat · 24th April 2007, 19:55

I just thought I'd pop in and have a look at how people are getting on with their Civic's.
My 1.8ex went in January after nearly 20,000 miles of problems.
Now have two new cars in family. Ford Fiesta ST and Hyundai Coupe, both 2 litre models and both very different to Civic.
But both have had no problems. ST much more fun to drive, Hyundai much more quiet, comfortable. Both faster and equally economical.
Real shame Honda failed to develop Civic properly, could have been a great car, just some poor quality control, horribly cheap finish & ropey petrol engine let it down.

Topcat · 24th April 2007, 21:51

[quote=chillicat;68365 My 1.8ex went in January after nearly 20,000 miles of problems.
Now have two new cars in family. Ford Fiesta ST and Hyundai Coupe, both 2 litre models and both very different to Civic.
But both have had no problems. [/quote]

Thats good to hear - no problems, just like I have said all along the civic has far too many "teething" problems but most people insist its normal for a new car - You have proved them wrong and me right - oh how I love being right

TTDegs · 24th April 2007, 22:25

chillicat - good to see you again, and glad you've now got trouble free motors

hopefully they stay that way

although a quick browse of http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/ shows a few people with issues though in here would recognise

and the ST (though you need to register) has a few issues too

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/

internet forums - where people with problems go to try and find answers

Topcat · 24th April 2007, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTDegs

chillicat - good to see you again, and glad you've now got trouble free motors

hopefully they stay that way

although a quick browse of http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/ shows a few people with issues though in here would recognise

and the ST (though you need to register) has a few issues too

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/

internet forums - where people with problems go to try and find answers

Tut tut TT looking for problems for Chillicat!!! Shame on you

sco77harris · 24th April 2007, 22:35

ok no joke, if you want topcat i reckon i could get your issue published in a well known uk magzine, which will probably result in honda listenin and we could all air our problems together, just give me the nod and ill try and sort something out with my contact

TTDegs · 24th April 2007, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

Tut tut TT looking for problems for Chillicat!!! Shame on you

moi?

seriously Chillicat - hope you have problem free travel from here on in - and obviously the same goes for everyone in here too

Topcat · 24th April 2007, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTDegs

moi?

seriously Chillicat - hope you have problem free travel from here on in - and obviously the same goes for everyone in here too

TT you appear to have turned female lol - do you really have a bows in your hair

Sco77harris - I may well do that - but it depends on the magazine, I mean "well known" could be anything from Gardeners Weekly to the TV Times lol

sco77harris · 24th April 2007, 22:58

well basically i sold something to a certsain magazine a while ago and hve direct contact numbers, they often run these kind of things and i reckon it might be worth contacting them, yours could be the centre story and then we could list all the problems weve had as whole as well

Topcat · 24th April 2007, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by sco77harris

well basically i sold something to a certsain magazine a while ago and hve direct contact numbers, they often run these kind of things and i reckon it might be worth contacting them, yours could be the centre story and then we could list all the problems weve had as whole as well

Hmmmm, maybe - but then if ever I want to sell my car everyone will say "hey your the one in that magazine who had lots of problems with your car"!! lol and then I might be stuck with it forever

I will see if I get a reply to my last letter first, and then if not maybe I will go and buy a Hyundai Coupe or a Fiesta ST

Cheltenhamshire · 25th April 2007, 08:20

Sco, you have use me in a story if you want. My car is still a rattly heap of junk. PM me if you want full details...although most are on this thread!

apemonkeyman · 25th April 2007, 09:20

Oh sh*t the bed dude - can't believe you've still got troubles after all you've been thru. What are Amethyst gonna do about it now?

Cheltenhamshire · 26th April 2007, 19:39

I have had replies from both Steve Dyer (Head of Customer Service) and Roger Moore the boss of Amethyst. And to be honest the response from Steve is a bit funny. Basically offering me something that I do not need as I already bought a great servicing deal with my car (as I bought it to keep for at least 5 years) as a goodwill gesture over the problems I have had.

Now I would be happy about this if, a) I did not already have this and b) the problems were solved. But whilst all the mechancical shaking steering rack noises have gone the car over bumpy roads sounds like it is falling apart still.

I just need to get either Steve or Roger in the car with me for a drive over some local roads. And then ask them if they think that is acceptable for a car with 15,000 miles. It sounds absolulety awful. Roger has said (more as a standard response I suspect) that if I need anything I should contact him, well I am going to. Asking for 10 minutes of his time for a drive around Cheltenham in my bucket of rattles.

The saga of the worse made car of all time continues.

apemonkeyman · 26th April 2007, 20:07

Do you think Amethyst put it back together wrong? I'd be intrigued to experience your car for myself to be honest, get a comparison with my own.

At least by offering you the service deal you already have you can expect them to offer an alternative or a refund on the servicing deal.

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19th April 2007, 14:59	#61 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 661 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They should still give you the option of a replacement car, but even then I may think again about that option cos at least you know the problem(s) should now be behind you with this one. Hopefully you will now get to enjoy! Good luck!

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Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	It is extremely unlikely that a replacement car would be given after this length of time especially as most of the faults have been fixed. Every cloud has a silver lining - at least you haven't added those extra 2500 miles to your own car. You have waited 3 days for a reply from Honda UK, I have been waiting for 5 months - they would never win a a prize for the fastest response! Whereas Japan replied within 10 days!! Just to reiterate i didnt write to Japan to complain about anything trivial, my main complaint to them was the way in which Honda Uk appear to be ignoring me! Anyway I hope all goes well with the car on Saturday

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Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cheers all, I actually went out for a drive at lunchtime with Dave and heard with my own ears that the noise had gone so it should be okay on Saturday. All they will be doing is cleaning the car inside and out and also re-aligning the steering wheel, putting the airbag and some trim back in. There are still the odd strange shaky / trim noise from the back of the car but that is just the parcel shelf / bits and bobs I keep in the under boot compartment so I am not bothered about that. Oh how I have missed the 60bhp the 1.4 is down....the glass roof letting the light in and the cruise control for my trips to London. Yes, I am also glad that the miles have not been on my car but still. So thumbs up to Amethyst and Dave. Thumbs up to Johnathan for not fobbing me off and doing a good job as service manager and a big thumbs down for Swindon and Honda customer service.

23rd April 2007, 10:44	#64 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 661 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So Cheltenhamshire, how is it now you have your Civ back?

23rd April 2007, 10:51	#65 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well it is good. The car is as it has not been since I bought it! Drives well, sounds well, and now I have proper performance, leather on my steering wheel etc. It is strange, but the 1.8 ES really does feel a class apart from the 1.4 SE!! I have no real confidence that something else will not fall off or break but at the moment things are good. I will try to enjoy them!

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sco77harris Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: stanmore london Posts: 978 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well im so glad to have got rid of the old one apparently it hadm ore faults than i realised loose front bumper x2 fuel cap x2 dodgey radio front lights damaging paint boot struts failing shock absorbers gone poor gear changes im sure there are more that i didnt notice lol

24th April 2007, 19:55	#68 (permalink)
chillicat Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd November 2006 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just thought I'd pop in and have a look at how people are getting on with their Civic's. My 1.8ex went in January after nearly 20,000 miles of problems. Now have two new cars in family. Ford Fiesta ST and Hyundai Coupe, both 2 litre models and both very different to Civic. But both have had no problems. ST much more fun to drive, Hyundai much more quiet, comfortable. Both faster and equally economical. Real shame Honda failed to develop Civic properly, could have been a great car, just some poor quality control, horribly cheap finish & ropey petrol engine let it down.

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Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	[quote=chillicat;68365 My 1.8ex went in January after nearly 20,000 miles of problems. Now have two new cars in family. Ford Fiesta ST and Hyundai Coupe, both 2 litre models and both very different to Civic. But both have had no problems. [/quote] Thats good to hear - no problems, just like I have said all along the civic has far too many "teething" problems but most people insist its normal for a new car - You have proved them wrong and me right - oh how I love being right

24th April 2007, 22:25	#70 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	chillicat - good to see you again, and glad you've now got trouble free motors hopefully they stay that way although a quick browse of http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/ shows a few people with issues though in here would recognise and the ST (though you need to register) has a few issues too http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/ internet forums - where people with problems go to try and find answers

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sco77harris Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: stanmore london Posts: 978 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok no joke, if you want topcat i reckon i could get your issue published in a well known uk magzine, which will probably result in honda listenin and we could all air our problems together, just give me the nod and ill try and sort something out with my contact

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Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sco, you have use me in a story if you want. My car is still a rattly heap of junk. PM me if you want full details...although most are on this thread!

25th April 2007, 09:20	#78 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 661 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh sh*t the bed dude - can't believe you've still got troubles after all you've been thru. What are Amethyst gonna do about it now?

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Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have had replies from both Steve Dyer (Head of Customer Service) and Roger Moore the boss of Amethyst. And to be honest the response from Steve is a bit funny. Basically offering me something that I do not need as I already bought a great servicing deal with my car (as I bought it to keep for at least 5 years) as a goodwill gesture over the problems I have had. Now I would be happy about this if, a) I did not already have this and b) the problems were solved. But whilst all the mechancical shaking steering rack noises have gone the car over bumpy roads sounds like it is falling apart still. I just need to get either Steve or Roger in the car with me for a drive over some local roads. And then ask them if they think that is acceptable for a car with 15,000 miles. It sounds absolulety awful. Roger has said (more as a standard response I suspect) that if I need anything I should contact him, well I am going to. Asking for 10 minutes of his time for a drive around Cheltenham in my bucket of rattles. The saga of the worse made car of all time continues.

26th April 2007, 20:07	#80 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 661 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Do you think Amethyst put it back together wrong? I'd be intrigued to experience your car for myself to be honest, get a comparison with my own. At least by offering you the service deal you already have you can expect them to offer an alternative or a refund on the servicing deal.