Transmission Desperate I-SHIFT HELP

[Honcho]

Foggy69, you're right to quote that.

Early twin clutch boxes had faults too. (Not today though, I believe)

The point is, however, that even working totally to spec and in the hands of an expert, a one-clutch box is always going to be a compromise, and will always be inferior to a two-clutch assembly.

In the same way that the Civic's torsion bar will almost always be inferior to multilink suspension.

Why did Honda do it?

Your guess is as good as mine. But it probably began with m and ended with y.

[Brodick]

Originally Posted by pcf

I am starting to think that now my I-Shift ES has eventually been rejected (gave them 2 weeks to repair and they can't promise, just should be's and hope so's) - I should go for another make ( Trouble is I love the look of it (in & out).

I have driven auto's for donkey's years now, the last two being Toyota Corolla and Mazda 3 - both of which had smooth gear changes (as does the current courtesy Jazz). Will I ever get used to driving the I-Shift - or will I always have a problem with the jerky gear changes. Now I really am confused - if i'd have wanted a manual I would've bought one (

HELP

yep
The Corolla had a full automatic box
as does the mazda 3
as does the Jazz ( well CVT)
The Civic like a few other cars is a Automated manual

[ecs43x]

Originally Posted by Brodick

ECS if you have a problem take it to your dealer and demand a courtesy car while they look at the problem

There is NO problem with '07, '57 i-shift boxes yes it could be better
but it does work quite a few owners of '06 cars are happy with their cars aswell

If People are having problems with their cars i.e sitting in the middle of the road reving the engine, or no power at junctions then there is a fault with your car and your dealers should be looking into it - this is not normal

The car was back a few times to the dealer and the technical chief from Honda FR had a look on it. The problem is known and they answered : it works as designed !
But he also told reporting my complain to UK factory.

I have a 2006 i-shift model and not a 2007 which seems to have an improved gearbox program not retrofitable to 2006 civic.

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by ecs43x

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I have a 2006 i-shift model and not a 2007 which seems to have an improved gearbox program not retrofitable to 2006 civic.

The improved software could technically be fitted to the older ones (sorry Mille, you're not really old) but the emmsions would then be greater and that would alter the road tax charging levels.

Still on the gearbox and it's problems, the other day I decided to overtake the vehicle in front, a rather normal manoeuvre - I have done it before!

I floored the accelerator, Millie dropped into the right gear and we accelerated past the vehicle.

Halfway past this vehicle Millie's i-Shift decided to change up!

Leaving me with NO POWER while it worked out when it would apply the higher ratio, only seconds I admit, but that was quite scary anyway!

"The secret of long life?
Keep breathing!"

[gmp]

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

The improved software could technically be fitted to the older ones (sorry Mille, you're not really old) but the emmsions would then be greater and that would alter the road tax charging levels.

Still on the gearbox and it's problems, the other day I decided to overtake the vehicle in front, a rather normal manoeuvre - I have done it before!

I floored the accelerator, Millie dropped into the right gear and we accelerated past the vehicle.

Halfway past this vehicle Millie's i-Shift decided to change up!

Leaving me with NO POWER while it worked out when it would apply the higher ratio, only seconds I admit, but that was quite scary anyway!

"The secret of long life?

Keep breathing!"

am surprised that you have not experienced this before,this is a regular occurance to me.I try to anticipate but sometimes still catches me out.I also find the i shift a nuicance when going up hills - putting your foot down for power only makes it slow down until it finds its own gear- by that time there is a quew of traffic behind you,but never the less I am still trying to get used to it!

[Gerald]

Been there got the 'T' shirt ! Gerald

[pcf]

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

The improved software could technically be fitted to the older ones (sorry Mille, you're not really old) but the emmsions would then be greater and that would alter the road tax charging levels.

Still on the gearbox and it's problems, the other day I decided to overtake the vehicle in front, a rather normal manoeuvre - I have done it before!

I floored the accelerator, Millie dropped into the right gear and we accelerated past the vehicle.

Halfway past this vehicle Millie's i-Shift decided to change up!

Leaving me with NO POWER while it worked out when it would apply the higher ratio, only seconds I admit, but that was quite scary anyway!

"The secret of long life?

Keep breathing!"

Unfortunately mine *was* a 2008 model - so it appears things have not improved with age . (BTW - Still waiting on a reply from Honda on my *new* car) so much for good customer service

[Gerald]

One advantage of the i-shift is that it makes you drive very, very carefully. Perhaps it's a case of the 'car' or should I say the computer / CPU teaching the driver not to take any risk whatsoever. Life can be interesting if not shortened using it. I have a pacemaker - thank God !

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by gmp

am surprised that you have not experienced this before,this is a regular occurance to me.

It has happened just once before.

I only usually do 'local', so overtaking is a bit of a challenge for me anyway!

"In my golf club,
If you don't have a shrink,
They think you are crazy!"

[Fillmore]

The dealer has installed the new software for the i-Shift in my Civic (model 2007). I don't know yet if all my problems are solved, but my first impression is great. Changing gear is a bit faster en smoother. In auto-mode its also a lot better.

My major problem is/was that when driving in traffic-jams the clutch gets hot. Because it is protecting itself, it finaly releases the clutch at 3000 rpm. Well, you know what than happens..... I hope this problem is solved too.

[Brodick]

Originally Posted by Fillmore

The dealer has installed the new software for the i-Shift in my Civic (model 2007). I don't know yet if all my problems are solved, but my first impression is great. Changing gear is a bit faster en smoother. In auto-mode its also a lot better.

My major problem is/was that when driving in traffic-jams the clutch gets hot. Because it is protecting itself, it finaly releases the clutch at 3000 rpm. Well, you know what than happens..... I hope this problem is solved too.

Fillmore I take it that whilst you have a 2007 model it is an early 2007 model i.e (56 plate) pre March 2007

[Kremmen]

That would interest me as well.

Whilst some of us with '07' cars won't be due to visit the dealers for service until March, there must be some out there who have completed the 12,500 miles around now and may be able to ascertain whether they are due a 'patch'.

[gmp]

Originally Posted by Fillmore

The dealer has installed the new software for the i-Shift in my Civic (model 2007). I don't know yet if all my problems are solved, but my first impression is great. Changing gear is a bit faster en smoother. In auto-mode its also a lot better.

My major problem is/was that when driving in traffic-jams the clutch gets hot. Because it is protecting itself, it finaly releases the clutch at 3000 rpm. Well, you know what than happens..... I hope this problem is solved too.

Am waiting for call from my dealer to update my 06 model i shift, looking forward to improvement.What improvement is there when going up hills in auto-thats when I find it a real pain.You put your foot down and the car eventualy goes slower until it puts itself in the right gear- by that time I have lost momentum and gained frustrated drivers behind me!Although I have'nt tried 'kickdown' approach.

[Gerald]

I got a call today that my dealer had received the new disk ( software ) and tomorrow after eleven months of waiting my problems will be solved. Actually not my problem but Honda's I await with baited breath. Driving the Civic has been 'fun' I have a few heart problems and have a pacemaker which has been fully tested by Honda and to date has passed with flying colours !

Have fun buy an i-Shift Gerald

[vbkurutza]

Our 07 Civic with I-Shift has also faulted. We are waiting for Honda to get back to use about a swap. The bottom line is there are too many issues with this transmission and Honda needs to step up and recall it - before someone gets in a serious accident and sues them. And once again our dealer says they never heard of any issues with the I-Shift.

[Foggy69]

Originally Posted by vbkurutza

And once again our dealer says they never heard of any issues with the I-Shift.

A porky has been told there one thinks

I think you should give them the website address for 'Civinfo' so they can browse through some of the moments the box can provide

[pcf]

Originally Posted by Foggy69

A porky has been told there one thinks

I think you should give them the website address for 'Civinfo' so they can browse through some of the moments the box can provide

I have now had my 'new' Civic for 6 weeks - and what a difference!! No faultering at junctions, no kangarooing on lower speeds.

It was definitely a rogue one I had - and thankfully Honda decided to give in (with a lot of hassle and persuasion) and give me a brand new one. It really shows how bad the last one was.

Just hope it continues... Good Luck all of you with problems - just keep on at Honda - in all fairness the problem lies with Honda UK NOT the dealer!!

[ecs43x]

Originally Posted by gmp

Am waiting for call from my dealer to update my 06 model i shift, looking forward to improvement.What improvement is there when going up hills in auto-thats when I find it a real pain.You put your foot down and the car eventualy goes slower until it puts itself in the right gear- by that time I have lost momentum and gained frustrated drivers behind me!Although I have'nt tried 'kickdown' approach.

There is no recall in FR. I suggest you to call him to upgrade the code. I think, it is a must to do because the car works now like a dream for me.