Leaks Leaking Rear Window

Ancient Nerd · 1st August 2006, 23:36

We had a couple of thunderstorms recently which showed up a significant leak, with water dripping from the trim behind the join between the upper and lower glass areas on the rear door. I had seen the problem before, but had put it down to drips when the boot was opened.

This is temporarily resolved by a tarpaulin in the boot with newspaper on top to soak up the puddles.

The problem is that there is a fault in the bonding between the two halves of the window, so the glass must be re-bonded. This means that I will need a courtesy car for three days (drop car in the day before, full day for the repair, collect car next day)

Apparently this is not the first Civic with this problem at my local dealer, so it looks like it may be another bit of poor quality control by Honda

sco77harris · 1st August 2006, 23:59

umm dosent suprise me

Ancient Nerd · 2nd August 2006, 00:18

As a fairly irrelevant but related aside, have you driven your Civic while wearing polarised sunglasses. There are some really interesting stress patterns in the lower part of the rear window.

dtm316 · 11th December 2006, 13:09

I have just noticed this on my Civic (ironically just before I dropped it off at the dealers to have the petrol cap release fixed).

Looks like I'm going to have to book it in again which is the third time in 4 months, I am not amused and definitely one of the worst new cars I have ever owned for design/build faults.

rhodgreen · 11th December 2006, 14:14

Mines gone into the dealer today (different one to usuall) - but we're now into double figures with dealer visits!!! (I think - lost count!).
The lower section of the boot (under the flap) was soaking, also had condensation in the rear light.
First noticed a problem last week when I got more water than usual soaking me when opening the boot - then came out from the inner handles (used to close the boot) when boot was opened!
Heavy rain over the weekend and now I have a damp smelling car!
Totally not impressed.

BrianAlbertsen · 11th December 2006, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

The problem is that there is a fault in the bonding between the two halves of the window, so the glass must be re-bonded. This means that I will need a courtesy car for three days (drop car in the day before, full day for the repair, collect car next day)

I don't think they are bonded together.
I had a fold in a 10 cm long section in the black sealingstrip between the two halves.

I saw the worksheet at the dealer and they had attached a drawing of the rear door with an exploded view of all the parts.
And the repair didn't take half a day.

pcr · 11th December 2006, 15:41

That seal has always looked vunerable to me, I can't see it standing the test of time.

Topcat · 11th December 2006, 16:55

Since reading on here a while back about leaking boots I have checked my car every time it has rained heavy - not that I am paranoid or anything

geoff · 11th December 2006, 18:56

Must have been a mistake i have not got this fault got all the others though
Soon be Christmas

Ancient Nerd · 11th December 2006, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianAlbertsen

I don't think they are bonded together.
I had a fold in a 10 cm long section in the black sealingstrip between the two halves.

I saw the worksheet at the dealer and they had attached a drawing of the rear door with an exploded view of all the parts.
And the repair didn't take half a day.

This is what I was told by my dealer. It turned out to be a load of rubbish. Mind you, it would have been great if it was only the three days. And I've now got a second hand looking rear plastic window, and a rattle inside the door.

Watch this space

Ancient Nerd · 11th December 2006, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoff

Must have been a mistake i have not got this fault got all the others though
Soon be Christmas

Don't be cynical (that's my job), be grateful. Mind you, there are lots of other faults to choose from

.

Topcat · 11th December 2006, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

Don't be cynical (that's my job), be grateful. Mind you, there are lots of other faults to choose from

.

LOL! Indeed there are

rhodgreen · 13th January 2007, 04:26

Well, am I fed up with this car now!!
Apparently had the leak fixed at the Redhill Honda dealer a few weeks ago (see post above).
Now I have a more soaked boot (hidden well by the fact that it's in the lower compartment that's not often opened) with mold growing (and smelling).
It's going in to Southampton on Monday - but they don't have a car to lend me (wonder if the courtesy cars are being used a lot more since the new Civic was launched??) so it won't be repaired until who knows when!!
Honda don't seem to realise that we can't be late for work or leave work early all the time to frequent the dealers!
Hope Southampton can do a better / permanent job!
It's also having the fuel cap looked at again (4th time!!!), the "string" holding the rear parcel shelf has snapped, I still have a dashboard rattle, but at least the HFT now works!!!
Going to talk to Honda UK again on Monday - as far as I'm concerned they can have the car back for good!

3rd Honda · 13th January 2007, 08:42

See my recent post under "Warning do not expect the radio to work (merged)"
You are not alone in getting really fed up with Honda's indifference and shoddy cheap ineffective fixes to customer's concerns

HatefulThing · 18th January 2007, 23:07

I've had this one fixed, it was the first one they had seen in Aberdeen and it was in the garage in bits for 3 WEEKS!!! while they waited for parts. No courtesy car either (it was only supposed to be in for a day or two) until I had a serious tantrum and they "lent" me a car for the first weekend. I gave up after that, I'm less stressed without the car.

They said it was something to do with the sealer not sticking to a short section that hadn't been degreased properly in the factory. Over time it was lifting and so allowing water in. They sent some very fuzzy pictures to Honda.

It seems okay with regard to the water, but now when I open the boot something rattles its way down (up?) the offside pillar, and rattles down when I close it - but at least as a side effect the boot now shuts first time - I have to start counting the small things as victories otherwise I'd cry more.

Bungle · 19th January 2007, 07:55

Moisture collects there on my car. I have had a look, and it is not getting passed the seal. Therefore it is not really any problem, and I won't bother worrying one bit about it unless any symptoms get worse i.e. plants start growing out of there or something.

rhodgreen · 15th March 2007, 12:16

Car now in having the boot repaired / sealed for the fourth time!!!
So not impressed!!

geoff · 15th March 2007, 13:35

What is wrong with honda

there is only a few of us with lemons

(as I am being told by all the happy owners on this site)

Why don't honda buy them back and get the good name back

My dealer has told me to sue them if i am unhappy

rhodgreen · 16th March 2007, 15:34

Honda have practically told me to sue them themselves!!!!
They simply just don't care!

geoff · 16th March 2007, 18:06

Before i get told to shut up
Thats what i have been told we have had your money and if you don't like you can sue us in other words **** off

Maybe I am wrong but thats what I think

1st August 2006, 23:36	#1 (permalink)
Ancient Nerd Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Leaking Rear Window We had a couple of thunderstorms recently which showed up a significant leak, with water dripping from the trim behind the join between the upper and lower glass areas on the rear door. I had seen the problem before, but had put it down to drips when the boot was opened. This is temporarily resolved by a tarpaulin in the boot with newspaper on top to soak up the puddles. The problem is that there is a fault in the bonding between the two halves of the window, so the glass must be re-bonded. This means that I will need a courtesy car for three days (drop car in the day before, full day for the repair, collect car next day) Apparently this is not the first Civic with this problem at my local dealer, so it looks like it may be another bit of poor quality control by Honda

11th December 2006, 18:56	#9 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Missed out on this one Must have been a mistake i have not got this fault got all the others though Soon be Christmas

15th March 2007, 13:35	#18 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is wrong with honda What is wrong with honda there is only a few of us with lemons (as I am being told by all the happy owners on this site) Why don't honda buy them back and get the good name back My dealer has told me to sue them if i am unhappy

16th March 2007, 18:06	#20 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	same answer Before i get told to shut up Thats what i have been told we have had your money and if you don't like you can sue us in other words **** off Maybe I am wrong but thats what I think

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1st August 2006, 23:59	#2 (permalink)
sco77harris Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: stanmore london Posts: 978 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	umm dosent suprise me

2nd August 2006, 00:18	#3 (permalink)
Ancient Nerd Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As a fairly irrelevant but related aside, have you driven your Civic while wearing polarised sunglasses. There are some really interesting stress patterns in the lower part of the rear window.

11th December 2006, 13:09	#4 (permalink)
dtm316 Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd July 2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have just noticed this on my Civic (ironically just before I dropped it off at the dealers to have the petrol cap release fixed). Looks like I'm going to have to book it in again which is the third time in 4 months, I am not amused and definitely one of the worst new cars I have ever owned for design/build faults.

11th December 2006, 14:14	#5 (permalink)
rhodgreen Blue Ambient Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mines gone into the dealer today (different one to usuall) - but we're now into double figures with dealer visits!!! (I think - lost count!). The lower section of the boot (under the flap) was soaking, also had condensation in the rear light. First noticed a problem last week when I got more water than usual soaking me when opening the boot - then came out from the inner handles (used to close the boot) when boot was opened! Heavy rain over the weekend and now I have a damp smelling car! Totally not impressed.

11th December 2006, 15:41	#7 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 842 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	That seal has always looked vunerable to me, I can't see it standing the test of time.

11th December 2006, 16:55	#8 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,739 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Since reading on here a while back about leaking boots I have checked my car every time it has rained heavy - not that I am paranoid or anything

13th January 2007, 04:26	#13 (permalink)
rhodgreen Blue Ambient Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, am I fed up with this car now!! Apparently had the leak fixed at the Redhill Honda dealer a few weeks ago (see post above). Now I have a more soaked boot (hidden well by the fact that it's in the lower compartment that's not often opened) with mold growing (and smelling). It's going in to Southampton on Monday - but they don't have a car to lend me (wonder if the courtesy cars are being used a lot more since the new Civic was launched??) so it won't be repaired until who knows when!! Honda don't seem to realise that we can't be late for work or leave work early all the time to frequent the dealers! Hope Southampton can do a better / permanent job! It's also having the fuel cap looked at again (4th time!!!), the "string" holding the rear parcel shelf has snapped, I still have a dashboard rattle, but at least the HFT now works!!! Going to talk to Honda UK again on Monday - as far as I'm concerned they can have the car back for good!

13th January 2007, 08:42	#14 (permalink)
3rd Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th July 2006 Location: Tewkesbury Posts: 337 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	See my recent post under "Warning do not expect the radio to work (merged)" You are not alone in getting really fed up with Honda's indifference and shoddy cheap ineffective fixes to customer's concerns

18th January 2007, 23:07	#15 (permalink)
HatefulThing Valve Cap Join Date: 18th January 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've had this one fixed, it was the first one they had seen in Aberdeen and it was in the garage in bits for 3 WEEKS!!! while they waited for parts. No courtesy car either (it was only supposed to be in for a day or two) until I had a serious tantrum and they "lent" me a car for the first weekend. I gave up after that, I'm less stressed without the car. They said it was something to do with the sealer not sticking to a short section that hadn't been degreased properly in the factory. Over time it was lifting and so allowing water in. They sent some very fuzzy pictures to Honda. It seems okay with regard to the water, but now when I open the boot something rattles its way down (up?) the offside pillar, and rattles down when I close it - but at least as a side effect the boot now shuts first time - I have to start counting the small things as victories otherwise I'd cry more.

19th January 2007, 07:55	#16 (permalink)
Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Moisture collects there on my car. I have had a look, and it is not getting passed the seal. Therefore it is not really any problem, and I won't bother worrying one bit about it unless any symptoms get worse i.e. plants start growing out of there or something.

15th March 2007, 12:16	#17 (permalink)
rhodgreen Blue Ambient Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Car now in having the boot repaired / sealed for the fourth time!!! So not impressed!!

16th March 2007, 15:34	#19 (permalink)
rhodgreen Blue Ambient Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Honda have practically told me to sue them themselves!!!! They simply just don't care!

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