Bodywork What do you think of this on a brand new type R

spsducati · 15th June 2007, 22:53

Picked up the Type R today - enjoying it! At the dealers I found the two grommets missing on the passenger side as has been pointed out by others - dealer is going to sort it. The door alignment seems fine. There was a minor defect in the paintwork on the passenger door edge wher it looked like ther had been a bubble - have to take the car into the paint shop to have it looked at. When I was looking at the rear of the car in different light - the rear wrap round section on the passenger side seems to be a slightly different shade of silver and also the panel seems to be out of line.

Picture 1 showing the panel alignment

Picture 2 - showing discoloring

What should I do? There seems to be a very small amount of red paint at the bottom left hand corner of the rearmost panel join as well.

Charles_Harding · 15th June 2007, 23:13

Oh dear!

Oh dear!

Oh dear!

That panel does look a different shade to the rest of the vehicle......and out of line I agree.

I bet you're gutted!

You will get it sorted, but in the meantime you have my sincere condolences.

"I reckon that I'm paranoid.
I've got a rear view mirror on my exercise bike!"

Charles H.

Pottsy · 15th June 2007, 23:21

Can you get inside the boot and remove some trim to see if there are any signs of accident repair? It's not uncommon for new cars to have had panels and paint, but it is rare for it to be of such poor quality.

The key is to return the car quickly, and leave it with the dealer.

spsducati · 15th June 2007, 23:23

But should I reject the car or just get a repair done - possibly the car had already been repaired - the PDI was done at Honda UK on 21/5/07 and delivered to dealers 14/06/07 - I can only wonder what the 24 day delay was due to.

The car otherwise is really good although the hard ride is not appreciated by the passengers!!

Bog · 15th June 2007, 23:23

It's quite common for the bumbers to be a slightly different shade, but that is very noticable (as is the gap!) I'd speak to the dealer ASAP and if there is anything else that concerns you, then start talking rejection!

Pottsy · 15th June 2007, 23:44

Yikes! 24 days... I'd ask the dealer for exact details of the repair, and possibly pay for an AA inspection (those guys are really good, and worth the money).

Foggy69 · 16th June 2007, 11:22

It seems quite common for the plastic bumpers to look a slightly different shade to the bodywork nowadays.

As to the misalignment of the bumper, it does appear that the bumper was removed. The rear bumper on mine was removed when I had the trim sprayed. It is now misaligned like in the picture, despite some fiddling from the bodyshop. I think it is quite difficult to put the bumper back on straight if you don't have the knack.

murr04 · 16th June 2007, 11:35

this is very common to notice the shade difference, the paint on the plastic bumper has different additives in it (plastisol) silver is one those colours u see this

illegalhunter · 16th June 2007, 12:03

I saw Milano Red one @ the dealers with a bonnet a shade lighter

apd · 16th June 2007, 12:14

If the front bumper is ok for alignment and colour i would say someone has changed the rear bumper or even put a bumper of a different type r on at the factory, they spray the car with all the doors etc on and then remove them untill they are later reattached at final assembly with the electrics trim fitted etc same with bumpers.......

stew190864 · 17th June 2007, 11:52

The bumper would have been removed by the dealer when fitting your parking sensors.

Topcat · 17th June 2007, 12:11

That bumper has to go - it is very noticeable, I have had two bumpers and had two seperate bumper repairs and you can see no difference at all in the colour and my car is silver.

Stephen B · 19th June 2007, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by stew190864

The bumper would have been removed by the dealer when fitting your parking sensors.

very valid comment, my silver rgt was the same as far as a slight difference in the tone, but alignment was fine, it also shows up a bit more when the car is dirty

spsducati · 19th June 2007, 11:56

Went to the dealers this morning - the colouring is only really noticeable in the shade - in the sun you cant really tell.

They are going to realign and will have the car in as there is also what looks like a burst bubble on the outside of the passenger door - also will fix the scratch I put down the side of the door when it blew open against a van in the petrol station yesterday

.

I'm happy with that.

Nice car Stephen B!!!

Topcat · 19th June 2007, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by spsducati

Went to the dealers this morning - the colouring is only really noticeable in the shade - in the sun you cant really tell.

They are going to realign and will have the car in as there is also what looks like a burst bubble on the outside of the passenger door - also will fix the scratch I put down the side of the door when it blew open against a van in the petrol station yesterday

.

I'm happy with that.

Nice car Stephen B!!!

Well I wouldnt be happy to pay all that money and then have to park the car in the sun all the time, your bumper is the worst colour match I have seen, what will you do in the winter months, I bet every day as you approach your car it will stare you in the face and really wind you up.

illegalhunter · 19th June 2007, 12:08

Well its geting fixed thats what matters

Topcat · 19th June 2007, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by illegalhunter

Well its geting fixed thats what matters

Oh sorry I mis read the post I didnt realise they are changing it

thats ok then, it can be looked at it happily come rain or shine

15th June 2007, 22:53	#1 (permalink)
spsducati Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th February 2007 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What do you think of this on a brand new type R Picked up the Type R today - enjoying it! At the dealers I found the two grommets missing on the passenger side as has been pointed out by others - dealer is going to sort it. The door alignment seems fine. There was a minor defect in the paintwork on the passenger door edge wher it looked like ther had been a bubble - have to take the car into the paint shop to have it looked at. When I was looking at the rear of the car in different light - the rear wrap round section on the passenger side seems to be a slightly different shade of silver and also the panel seems to be out of line. Picture 1 showing the panel alignment Picture 2 - showing discoloring What should I do? There seems to be a very small amount of red paint at the bottom left hand corner of the rearmost panel join as well. Last edited by spsducati; 15th June 2007 at 22:55.

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15th June 2007, 23:13	#2 (permalink)
Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 2,834 Thanks: 40 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Oh dear! Oh dear! Oh dear! That panel does look a different shade to the rest of the vehicle......and out of line I agree. I bet you're gutted! You will get it sorted, but in the meantime you have my sincere condolences. *"I reckon that I'm paranoid.* *I've got a rear view mirror on my exercise bike!"* Charles H.

15th June 2007, 23:21	#3 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,775 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	Can you get inside the boot and remove some trim to see if there are any signs of accident repair? It's not uncommon for new cars to have had panels and paint, but it is rare for it to be of such poor quality. The key is to return the car quickly, and leave it with the dealer.

15th June 2007, 23:23	#4 (permalink)
spsducati Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th February 2007 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	But should I reject the car or just get a repair done - possibly the car had already been repaired - the PDI was done at Honda UK on 21/5/07 and delivered to dealers 14/06/07 - I can only wonder what the 24 day delay was due to. The car otherwise is really good although the hard ride is not appreciated by the passengers!!

15th June 2007, 23:23	#5 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 886 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	It's quite common for the bumbers to be a slightly different shade, but that is very noticable (as is the gap!) I'd speak to the dealer ASAP and if there is anything else that concerns you, then start talking rejection!

15th June 2007, 23:44	#6 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,775 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	Yikes! 24 days... I'd ask the dealer for exact details of the repair, and possibly pay for an AA inspection (those guys are really good, and worth the money).

16th June 2007, 11:22	#7 (permalink)
Foggy69 Vivid Blue Rocks!!! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Westerham Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	It seems quite common for the plastic bumpers to look a slightly different shade to the bodywork nowadays. As to the misalignment of the bumper, it does appear that the bumper was removed. The rear bumper on mine was removed when I had the trim sprayed. It is now misaligned like in the picture, despite some fiddling from the bodyshop. I think it is quite difficult to put the bumper back on straight if you don't have the knack.

16th June 2007, 11:35	#8 (permalink)
murr04 Valve Cap Join Date: 21st February 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	this is very common to notice the shade difference, the paint on the plastic bumper has different additives in it (plastisol) silver is one those colours u see this

16th June 2007, 12:03	#9 (permalink)
illegalhunter Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: In the woods armed to the teeth Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	I saw Milano Red one @ the dealers with a bonnet a shade lighter

16th June 2007, 12:14	#10 (permalink)
apd Valve Cap Join Date: 1st October 2006 Location: north wales Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If the front bumper is ok for alignment and colour i would say someone has changed the rear bumper or even put a bumper of a different type r on at the factory, they spray the car with all the doors etc on and then remove them untill they are later reattached at final assembly with the electrics trim fitted etc same with bumpers.......

17th June 2007, 11:52	#11 (permalink)
stew190864 Wheelnut Join Date: 9th April 2007 Location: Marlow, Bucks Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The bumper would have been removed by the dealer when fitting your parking sensors.

17th June 2007, 12:11	#12 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,739 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	That bumper has to go - it is very noticeable, I have had two bumpers and had two seperate bumper repairs and you can see no difference at all in the colour and my car is silver.

19th June 2007, 11:56	#14 (permalink)
spsducati Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th February 2007 Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Went to the dealers this morning - the colouring is only really noticeable in the shade - in the sun you cant really tell. They are going to realign and will have the car in as there is also what looks like a burst bubble on the outside of the passenger door - also will fix the scratch I put down the side of the door when it blew open against a van in the petrol station yesterday . I'm happy with that. Nice car Stephen B!!!

19th June 2007, 12:08	#16 (permalink)
illegalhunter Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: In the woods armed to the teeth Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Well its geting fixed thats what matters