Bodywork Central Clear Plastic Fouling Bumper

richierich · 12th August 2006, 17:29

Anyone else had this problem, noticed before I cleaned it today that the central portion of the front reflector has ground into the top of the bumper, its on both sides, but the left is worse. It is at the point where the headlight meets the central bit.

pikkumies · 12th August 2006, 17:45

Ouch! just went outside and checked mine. Dont have anything on the right, but on the left side i have 1mm spot without paint! It aint nearly as bad as yours but it's irritating. Probably caused when you go over rough spots / speed bumps and the plastic touches the bumper. Crap! You can probably fix it by removing the mask and roughening the underside with a file or scratching paper from the part which touches the bumper! Going to mention this on the next service!

basegreen · 12th August 2006, 17:54

Mine has a dark patch on the left too. Not big though, but you can see contact.

richierich · 12th August 2006, 18:41

It never rains but pours, faulty shocks and badly aligned bumper in one afternoon.

basegreen · 12th August 2006, 18:48

Looking at how that Milano Red paint has come off... I wonder if it's just not as tough as the pearl/metallic coats?

Bungle · 12th August 2006, 19:58

It looks like the bumper may have been hit or pushed at one point, maybe from somebody using the 'touch' method of getting between 2 cars.

The soft bumper may have deformed enough to push it against the grille.

Pottsy · 13th August 2006, 08:44

Richie, that doesn't look very nice does it? Even though the lights look like they're wonky, mine are exactly the same (except the top of the bumper is lower). Maybe they took the idiot who fitted my door all wonky and put him on the bumper section...

richierich · 13th August 2006, 09:16

Do you think there is any point talking to Honda and see if this is something we can put down to them, or do you think this ones my fault. I at least need to get whatevers fouling taken back a little, whether I get the bumper retouched or not.

allan40alt · 13th August 2006, 10:22

I've just checked mine and the central plastic section has a tiny rubber buffer between the lower corner and the bumper. Also, the side gap between the central and lights unit on your photos appears to be 5mm or more, mine is only 2mm on either side. Seems as if your bumper has been pushed in and that has squeezed the clear plastic sections out of alignment.

richierich · 13th August 2006, 11:06

I am wondering whether it is the bumper moving up or whether the central plastic was never aligned correctly, if the bumper had come up then surely the headlamps would have fouled also.

richierich · 13th August 2006, 11:11

Just looking at Pottsys post, he seems to have a large gap also, I will go and measure it later, once the rain stops. Typical I cleaned it yesterday and was gonna go photgraph it somewhere today, bugger.

allan40alt · 13th August 2006, 12:18

Maybe only the centre section marked the trim because there is no leeway for adjustment wereas the side panels are adjustable for alignment 'fine tuning' and were simply pushed away leaving the gap? Try using a torch and mirror to look behind the panel to see if the fixing shows any sign of movement.

pikkumies · 13th August 2006, 13:16

My cameras macrofocus is crap so i cant take a picture from any closer. You can just barely see it from here but underneath the front panel it's missing a very small bit of paint.

pengin · 13th August 2006, 16:58

Ouch. Will have to remember put this on my September checklist!

Bart · 13th August 2006, 17:30

The gap is so small that I probably couldn't get a piece of paper between the bumper and the corner of the central perspex mirrored thingy - identical to Pikkumies.

I would have thought that when they're putting the Civic together there would be identical holes, fixing points etc so that all parts would go on properly.

Is it me or do you guys have no faith in the UK car industry - it seems to me that cars made abroad - Japan, Germany have far superior build quality.

Come on you people who work in Honda's Swindon factory - get you act together and start putting the cars together better. Its no wonder car manufacturers are pulling out of the UK - they're probably paid more than their EU counterparts and the quality control is better because staff have pride in their work.

Rant over

Topcat · 14th August 2006, 08:16

I had already mentioned that this is happening to mine in the topic "poor quality paintwork"

It seems another fault has appeared with this car!

richierich · 14th August 2006, 16:07

Its booked in for next Tuesday morning, thats the soonest opening for an "inspection" appointment. Will report back then. They are also looking at the rear suspension too.

Fedorov · 14th August 2006, 23:13

Checked mine and appears to be okay - rechecked it again tonight though as the front underside took a minor thump reversing off my Auntie's drive tonight down a big kerb!

Copycat · 15th August 2006, 05:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan40alt

I've just checked mine and the central plastic section has a tiny rubber buffer between the lower corner and the bumper. Also, the side gap between the central and lights unit on your photos appears to be 5mm or more, mine is only 2mm on either side. Seems as if your bumper has been pushed in and that has squeezed the clear plastic sections out of alignment.

Same here. Small bits of rubber between the glass and paintwork. Maybe Honda has already addressed this issue by adding those? Doesn't do much for those of you who don't have them, but maybe you could take it to your dealer to have them retro-fitted.

pikkumies · 15th August 2006, 05:10

Could you take a picture?

It's so tight i dont understand where the rubber could fit

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12th August 2006, 17:45	#2 (permalink)
pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ouch! just went outside and checked mine. Dont have anything on the right, but on the left side i have 1mm spot without paint! It aint nearly as bad as yours but it's irritating. Probably caused when you go over rough spots / speed bumps and the plastic touches the bumper. Crap! You can probably fix it by removing the mask and roughening the underside with a file or scratching paper from the part which touches the bumper! Going to mention this on the next service!

12th August 2006, 17:54	#3 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Mine has a dark patch on the left too. Not big though, but you can see contact.

12th August 2006, 18:41	#4 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It never rains but pours, faulty shocks and badly aligned bumper in one afternoon.

12th August 2006, 18:48	#5 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Looking at how that Milano Red paint has come off... I wonder if it's just not as tough as the pearl/metallic coats?

12th August 2006, 19:58	#6 (permalink)
Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It looks like the bumper may have been hit or pushed at one point, maybe from somebody using the 'touch' method of getting between 2 cars. The soft bumper may have deformed enough to push it against the grille.

13th August 2006, 09:16	#8 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Do you think there is any point talking to Honda and see if this is something we can put down to them, or do you think this ones my fault. I at least need to get whatevers fouling taken back a little, whether I get the bumper retouched or not.

13th August 2006, 10:22	#9 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,145 Thanks: 8 Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts	I've just checked mine and the central plastic section has a tiny rubber buffer between the lower corner and the bumper. Also, the side gap between the central and lights unit on your photos appears to be 5mm or more, mine is only 2mm on either side. Seems as if your bumper has been pushed in and that has squeezed the clear plastic sections out of alignment.

13th August 2006, 11:06	#10 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am wondering whether it is the bumper moving up or whether the central plastic was never aligned correctly, if the bumper had come up then surely the headlamps would have fouled also.

13th August 2006, 11:11	#11 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just looking at Pottsys post, he seems to have a large gap also, I will go and measure it later, once the rain stops. Typical I cleaned it yesterday and was gonna go photgraph it somewhere today, bugger.

13th August 2006, 12:18	#12 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,145 Thanks: 8 Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts	Maybe only the centre section marked the trim because there is no leeway for adjustment wereas the side panels are adjustable for alignment 'fine tuning' and were simply pushed away leaving the gap? Try using a torch and mirror to look behind the panel to see if the fixing shows any sign of movement.

13th August 2006, 16:58	#14 (permalink)
pengin Valve Cap Join Date: 29th July 2006 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ouch. Will have to remember put this on my September checklist!

13th August 2006, 17:30	#15 (permalink)
Bart Wheelnut Join Date: 23rd July 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The gap is so small that I probably couldn't get a piece of paper between the bumper and the corner of the central perspex mirrored thingy - identical to Pikkumies. I would have thought that when they're putting the Civic together there would be identical holes, fixing points etc so that all parts would go on properly. Is it me or do you guys have no faith in the UK car industry - it seems to me that cars made abroad - Japan, Germany have far superior build quality. Come on you people who work in Honda's Swindon factory - get you act together and start putting the cars together better. Its no wonder car manufacturers are pulling out of the UK - they're probably paid more than their EU counterparts and the quality control is better because staff have pride in their work. Rant over

14th August 2006, 08:16	#16 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,739 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	I had already mentioned that this is happening to mine in the topic "poor quality paintwork" It seems another fault has appeared with this car!

14th August 2006, 16:07	#17 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its booked in for next Tuesday morning, thats the soonest opening for an "inspection" appointment. Will report back then. They are also looking at the rear suspension too.

14th August 2006, 23:13	#18 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Checked mine and appears to be okay - rechecked it again tonight though as the front underside took a minor thump reversing off my Auntie's drive tonight down a big kerb!

15th August 2006, 05:10	#20 (permalink)
pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Could you take a picture? It's so tight i dont understand where the rubber could fit