Squeaks Creaking trim around the back doors....

Cheltenhamshire · 14th August 2006, 22:04

....has anyone experienced this? It has only started happenig in the last few days since the weather cooled by 10 or 15C. There is a creaking from either the rear door trim or just the back of the car around the rear seats....bloody annoying thats for sure. Anyone else take their car to the dealers for their opinion?? Certainly did not get it when I got the car in April...and the test car had 5000 miles on it (mine has 4500) and did not creak.

WoolyCiv · 14th August 2006, 22:08

I did have a 'creaking' tailgate hinge, cured it with a dose of WD40

Cheltenhamshire · 1st September 2006, 13:52

This is far from a bit of WD-40 to cure creak! Took the car in today to have it looked at and also to replace the rear shocks. The conclusion is they need it in for a few days at the end of the month to check more thourghly. They have bulletins talking about the tailgate and the glass roof...but neither of these fixes did anything. You have seen those old skool horror flicks with the creaking door opened by Igor?? Well that is the sound coming from the rear driver side of my car when pulling away....going over big bumps and also anything that involves turning 90 degrees in a turn or roundabout.

Seems the boys in Swindon could not be bothered to make mine properly. So I will report back at the end of the month with the result.

allan40alt · 1st September 2006, 18:10

I don't have a problem with the door, but with the front off-side wing when I'm polishing it. Any slight pressure makes it creak. No problem driving though.

WoolyCiv · 1st September 2006, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan40alt

I don't have a problem with the door, but with the front off-side wing when I'm polishing it. Any slight pressure makes it creak. No problem driving though.

Alan with me its not the car but my joints

allan40alt · 1st September 2006, 23:09

...ah, perhaps it's my elbow joint!

Jobo · 1st September 2006, 23:40

I don't know, you oldies!

Hope you got a discount when you bought your cars like you do in B&Q on a Wednesday

My passenger seat belt squeaks when my husband's in the car but not when I'm in the passenger seat

There again, I'm a waif and my husband's an oaf!!

WoolyCiv · 1st September 2006, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobo

I don't know, you oldies!

Hope you got a discount when you bought your cars like you do in B&Q on a Wednesday

My passenger seat belt squeaks when my husband's in the car but not when I'm in the passenger seat

There again, I'm a waif and my husband's an oaf!!

We are still young at heart or else we wouldn't have bought civics

Cheltenhamshire · 21st September 2006, 13:21

Right you lot, enough of your old joints and creaking body parts...update on my car.

Car was rebooked in to investigate why the guys at Swindon made such a hash of building my car that it had a creak coming from the rear on the right hand side somewhere...it went in yesterday.

Got a call just now with a progress report (firstly may I say...nice one Honda...I am now experiencing better customer service than I did with Fiat, Alfa, Merc, BMW etc just because they actually called me!) ... they have stripped the interior and the bodyshop are investigating and have told me to stay in the courtesy Jazz (Pole Position steering...awful....slow, but a great stereo!) until next Wednesday!!!

Well....while it may be taking them a while at least they are doing something and not fobbing me off, so fingers crossed when I get the car next week it will not sound like the Cutty Sark in a heavy swell.

geoff · 22nd September 2006, 06:43

With my creak i am told the headling will have to be removed as it is body twisting? and above the drivers side there is a bracket/tension bar? which is meant to stop this .
At the moment i am waiting because they have another civic in with a fault which needs the headlining removed and i didn't want to be the first

Cheltenhamshire · 22nd September 2006, 08:15

Makes sense, the creak on mine ... well you just can't tell where it is. When opening the back door fully you get this noise from the roof. Does yours have the glass roof as well??

To be fair I am not bothered it they get it wrong as it will keep going back until they get it right!! And that will keep the mileage down on my car and just tot up on the courtsey!!!

But by the sounds of it that is what they need to do .... so some assembly bod in Swindon decided one Friday that applying 250nm (made up value btw) to the tension bar was too much like hard work. I wonder if Honda trace back issues like this the actual worker responsible? I am sure with the production records they could do that, then give the muppet responsible a good birching. Maybe that is what they do in Japan....hence Japanese made cars are the best in the world!

geoff · 22nd September 2006, 09:13

Mines an es with the glass roof
what i am worried about is them not fixing it and the inside of the car not looking right.
I have spent all my working life in the motor trade and know how a small annoying fault can turn in to a major one
I bought a new landcrusier in 1993 and it cost a lot of money so i thought i would keep on till i got what i paid for it went from bad to worse.
In the end toyota uk took the car back and sold me a new one at a reduced price by that time it was nearly a year old.

Cheltenhamshire · 29th September 2006, 12:52

Right then folks, got the car back just now. So it has been with them for 2 weeks! However they have fixed the creak. Now this is very important that you listen...especially if you have a glass roof!

The roof is welded into position with x amount of spot welds per side. The glass roof models have less welds because there is less metal, but they have more welds (in terms of length divided by welds) in a smaller space.

After trying all the fixes in the service bulletins they stripped the interior and head lining and found that the right side quarter panel where it meets the small piece of metal roof did not have the amount of spot welds it should to maintain the structural intergrity, hence the creak whenever torsion is applied to the chassis (bumpy roads, corners, roundabouts etc) and why it was less noisy in the warm weather (metal expands).

So they added the welds, repainted that part of the interior and then put it back to together again.

Quite a big job as you can see, it has fixed it and I have now have my car back built as it should be!

So I was right...someone at Honda did not make my car properly, but the guys and gals at Amyethyst of Cheltenham did a great job from start to finish. So many thanks to them.

Fedorov · 29th September 2006, 13:14

Nice result! I would presume the fact I only hear anything when reversing off the drive and maybe the 1st speed bump it's not the same issue as mine...

Cheltenhamshire · 29th September 2006, 13:31

Yours sounds like the rear shocks issue to me. Get your car down the dealer and tell them you want them changed. There will be no problem, they are happy to change them.

pikkumies · 29th September 2006, 21:25

Umm.. i think i might have gotten a creak maybe once or two when i have the handbrake on and i rise out of the car.. comes from the rear right also... gives this little creaky squeak

14th August 2006, 22:04	#1 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Creaking trim around the back doors.... ....has anyone experienced this? It has only started happenig in the last few days since the weather cooled by 10 or 15C. There is a creaking from either the rear door trim or just the back of the car around the rear seats....bloody annoying thats for sure. Anyone else take their car to the dealers for their opinion?? Certainly did not get it when I got the car in April...and the test car had 5000 miles on it (mine has 4500) and did not creak.

22nd September 2006, 06:43	#10 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	headlining With my creak i am told the headling will have to be removed as it is body twisting? and above the drivers side there is a bracket/tension bar? which is meant to stop this . At the moment i am waiting because they have another civic in with a fault which needs the headlining removed and i didn't want to be the first

22nd September 2006, 09:13	#12 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	es Mines an es with the glass roof what i am worried about is them not fixing it and the inside of the car not looking right. I have spent all my working life in the motor trade and know how a small annoying fault can turn in to a major one I bought a new landcrusier in 1993 and it cost a lot of money so i thought i would keep on till i got what i paid for it went from bad to worse. In the end toyota uk took the car back and sold me a new one at a reduced price by that time it was nearly a year old.

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WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I did have a 'creaking' tailgate hinge, cured it with a dose of WD40

1st September 2006, 13:52	#3 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	This is far from a bit of WD-40 to cure creak! Took the car in today to have it looked at and also to replace the rear shocks. The conclusion is they need it in for a few days at the end of the month to check more thourghly. They have bulletins talking about the tailgate and the glass roof...but neither of these fixes did anything. You have seen those old skool horror flicks with the creaking door opened by Igor?? Well that is the sound coming from the rear driver side of my car when pulling away....going over big bumps and also anything that involves turning 90 degrees in a turn or roundabout. Seems the boys in Swindon could not be bothered to make mine properly. So I will report back at the end of the month with the result.

1st September 2006, 18:10	#4 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,245 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	I don't have a problem with the door, but with the front off-side wing when I'm polishing it. Any slight pressure makes it creak. No problem driving though.

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allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,245 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	...ah, perhaps it's my elbow joint!

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Jobo Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 683 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I don't know, you oldies! Hope you got a discount when you bought your cars like you do in B&Q on a Wednesday My passenger seat belt squeaks when my husband's in the car but not when I'm in the passenger seat There again, I'm a waif and my husband's an oaf!!

21st September 2006, 13:21	#9 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Right you lot, enough of your old joints and creaking body parts...update on my car. Car was rebooked in to investigate why the guys at Swindon made such a hash of building my car that it had a creak coming from the rear on the right hand side somewhere...it went in yesterday. Got a call just now with a progress report (firstly may I say...nice one Honda...I am now experiencing better customer service than I did with Fiat, Alfa, Merc, BMW etc just because they actually called me!) ... they have stripped the interior and the bodyshop are investigating and have told me to stay in the courtesy Jazz (Pole Position steering...awful....slow, but a great stereo!) until next Wednesday!!! Well....while it may be taking them a while at least they are doing something and not fobbing me off, so fingers crossed when I get the car next week it will not sound like the Cutty Sark in a heavy swell.

22nd September 2006, 08:15	#11 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Makes sense, the creak on mine ... well you just can't tell where it is. When opening the back door fully you get this noise from the roof. Does yours have the glass roof as well?? To be fair I am not bothered it they get it wrong as it will keep going back until they get it right!! And that will keep the mileage down on my car and just tot up on the courtsey!!! But by the sounds of it that is what they need to do .... so some assembly bod in Swindon decided one Friday that applying 250nm (made up value btw) to the tension bar was too much like hard work. I wonder if Honda trace back issues like this the actual worker responsible? I am sure with the production records they could do that, then give the muppet responsible a good birching. Maybe that is what they do in Japan....hence Japanese made cars are the best in the world!

29th September 2006, 12:52	#13 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Right then folks, got the car back just now. So it has been with them for 2 weeks! However they have fixed the creak. Now this is very important that you listen...especially if you have a glass roof! The roof is welded into position with x amount of spot welds per side. The glass roof models have less welds because there is less metal, but they have more welds (in terms of length divided by welds) in a smaller space. After trying all the fixes in the service bulletins they stripped the interior and head lining and found that the right side quarter panel where it meets the small piece of metal roof did not have the amount of spot welds it should to maintain the structural intergrity, hence the creak whenever torsion is applied to the chassis (bumpy roads, corners, roundabouts etc) and why it was less noisy in the warm weather (metal expands). So they added the welds, repainted that part of the interior and then put it back to together again. Quite a big job as you can see, it has fixed it and I have now have my car back built as it should be! So I was right...someone at Honda did not make my car properly, but the guys and gals at Amyethyst of Cheltenham did a great job from start to finish. So many thanks to them.

29th September 2006, 13:14	#14 (permalink)
Fedorov Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th April 2006 Posts: 783 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Nice result! I would presume the fact I only hear anything when reversing off the drive and maybe the 1st speed bump it's not the same issue as mine...

29th September 2006, 13:31	#15 (permalink)
Cheltenhamshire Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 6th June 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yours sounds like the rear shocks issue to me. Get your car down the dealer and tell them you want them changed. There will be no problem, they are happy to change them.

29th September 2006, 21:25	#16 (permalink)
pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Umm.. i think i might have gotten a creak maybe once or two when i have the handbrake on and i rise out of the car.. comes from the rear right also... gives this little creaky squeak